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I don't see any reason why they can't make another Bond flick that is as good or better than Skyfall. I am not sure if Skyfall was any better than Casino Royale. In fact, Rotten Tomatoes rates CR higher than Skyfall.

The producers have obviously decided that they want to make a quality product. The arthouse direction of Quantum of Solace fell flat in many ways, but the effort was there.

Why is Skyfall being nominated for more awards and taking more money than the previous two? I think that has more to do with timing, the rise of and acceptance of Daniel Craig, pent-up demand after a four year break, the Adele song, the 50th anniversary etc., than the quality of the movie, compared to Casino Royale. So, I fully expect another Bond movie of the same quality.

Bond 24 won't have both of these factors (in bold). Maybe 3D (wishful thinking) and a better movie can do the trick to offset those 2 points. Mendes returning would be great also Joe Carnahan or Alan Taylor (A few of my choices). After 1B until a reboot (new actor) the mark is set, not every movie will need to hit 1B+, but 800M+ should be the mark now.
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Bond 24 won't have both of these factors (in bold). Maybe 3D (wishful thinking) and a better movie can do the trick to offset those 2 points. Mendes returning would be great also Joe Carnahan or Alan Taylor (A few of my choices). After 1B until a reboot (new actor) the mark is set, not every movie will need to hit 1B+, but 800M+ should be the mark now.

You are right, Bond 24 won't have those factors, but what it will have is:Pent-up demand from a two year absence (yes, that is not four years, but nearly twice as many people will have seen Skyfall than Quantum of Solace, so initial demand for Bond 24 will be bigger).Many more screens, as Bond is now up there with the big boys.Much more excitement generated by the media that will see Bond 24 through the prism of an event $300/$1.1b movie and not a $160/$600m movie.Sky-high expectations because of Skyfall - which Skyfall didn't have after the disappointing Quantum of Solace.High expectations equals more media attention.Another two years of international box office inflation.Daniel Craig who will be a bona-fide top-tier star after Skyfall and another couple of hits before Bond 24 is released.The improved status of the series means that they can attract a bigger star name as the villain or a star director.Plus, the producers have learned lessons about making a quality popular product, the importance of marketing and the impact of recruiting one of the world's biggest singers. I think they will aim to build on the momentum.
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Thats just crazy talk

Not crazy at all.The overseas market is booming - an increase of 20% in 2010 and 2011 combined.If that repeats in the next two years, add 20% to a possible $830m (Skyfall overseas with China) and you get $1bAdd $300 for a domestic gross and you get $1.3b.$1.5b is just 200m more than $1.3b, or 15% more.Taking into account overseas expansion, I am suggesting Bond 24 will make just 15% more than Skyfall.I give some reasons for this in my post above.Since when has a modest 15% increase for one film in a franchise to the next been crazy?If that is crazy, what is an increase from under $600m (Quantum) to over $1.1b (Skyfall)?
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Not crazy at all.The overseas market is booming - an increase of 20% in 2010 and 2011 combined.If that repeats in the next two years, add 20% to a possible $830m (Skyfall overseas with China) and you get $1bAdd $300 for a domestic gross and you get $1.3b.$1.5b is just 200m more than $1.3b, or 15% more.Taking into account overseas expansion, I am suggesting Bond 24 will make just 15% more than Skyfall.I give some reasons for this in my post above.Since when has a modest 15% increase for one film in a franchise to the next been crazy?If that is crazy, what is an increase from under $600m (Quantum) to over $1.1b (Skyfall)?

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the importance of marketing and the impact of recruiting one of the world's biggest singers. I think they will aim to build on the momentum.

exactly, this is why Skyfall was a huge sucess and the multiplier was because the good reception Edited by Goffe of Oz
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I'd be surprised if Bond 24 gets a billion, as *everything* went right for Skyfall and you can't expect that kind of perfect storm to happen again anytime soon. But the Bond franchise is one of the the most consistent ever. There's a set level of fans that will always see it, followed by people who'll go if it's good. So the simple answer is to make it really good. The audience is there, and the final scene of Skyfall primed them for another round. If Mendes really is opening to returning (I heard otherwise) the producers would be mad not to get him.

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The inflations and expanding markets will always be there. Box office, overally or individually will always keep increasing and increasing.And that's why there are more and more 1B films. By 2020, the yearly worldwide top 10 films will all be 1B+ grossers.Almost every Bond film has had no problem getting a spot on the yearly top 10 chart in past 50 years. And in 2015, as long as you are one of the top 10, you wont do less than 700M WW.The franchises will go on and on with time, and the box office for each Bond film will go up significantly (well mostly) in the long term.Skyfall is #2 of 2012 and even with #5 for Bond 24, it could do 1B.

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Aside from some interesting guesswork it may be too early for anyone to predict Bond 24's box office. With that in mind I think that too many have underestimated the durability and box office success of this franchise. Skyfall proved that a good Bond film with solid and effective marketing will find its audience.

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Aside from some interesting guesswork it may be too early for anyone to predict Bond 24's box office. With that in mind I think that too many have underestimated the durability and box office success of this franchise. Skyfall proved that a good Bond film with solid and effective marketing will find its audience.

Was genius. Goodwill for Skyfall will help, but will need more than marketing this time for the magic 1B. It will need a top tier director, story and cast to achieve 1B again.
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I can see nothing but a decrease DOM. This was a perfect storm in every sense and I just can't see it repeating for 24. OS is a different matter however, as long as the growth is as consistent as it has been since the start of the decade it could make $1b (WW) with ease.

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Let's look at how former Bond actors have done at the worldwide box office:What was Sean Connery's highest grossing Bond movie? His fourth (Thunderball).What was Roger Moore's highest grossing Bond? His fourth (Moonraker).What was Pierce Brosnan's highest grossing Bond movie? His fourth (Die Another Day).Which Bond movie will Daniel Craig make next? His fourth (Bond 24).

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