ladyevenstar22 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 yeah don't agree with ben affleck on that list!and sometimes those DTV films even if awful (i'm looking at you syfy) sadly pay the billsthe way i see it hollywood is a pool and its over-saturated with fish, only a chosen few get invited to the jacuzzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I dunno if he can be considered a flop, but Sam Worthington is not near the star most in Hollywood probably thought he would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I dunno if he can be considered a flop, but Sam Worthington is not near the star most in Hollywood probably thought he would be.Oh yeah, I know what you mean. The guy's probably calling Cameron every other week. "Hey man, any update on when we're doing those Avatar sequels yet?" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Sometimes I wonder why actors who have made a career in film "lower" themselves to TV, and then I watch the shows and realize it's better than 90% of the stuff they'd get as a studio film actor (I'm looking at you Claire Danes).Have you seen what they get paid? It's just as much if not more than feature films. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Plus there's a lot of great material on cable nowadays. If I were an actor I'd rather be doing Homeland or Breaking Bad than some of the bigger movies out there. Edited October 2, 2012 by CoolioD1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Have you seen what they get paid? It's just as much if not more than feature films.Overall the pay may be the same, but it's also for a far greater volume of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamingFreak Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Gerard Butler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Have you seen what they get paid? It's just as much if not more than feature films.Very true. It probably looks lower when it's read as "700k per episode", but in a 12 episode season, well you do the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Overall the pay may be the same, but it's also for a far greater volume of work.But doesn't it require less time?How long does a 12 episode season shoot for? 3-4 months? And doesn't it usually take around the same amount of time to film a 2 hour blockbuster? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accursed Arachnid!™ Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Gerard Butler He hasn't made many good choices lately, but it hasn't been that long since he's had a hit. Also, I would argue that I don't see him being setup as much to be a star on his own...he's more like "that guy" and on that level he's pretty successful. The guy is no Paul Bettany(who should be on this list, BTW). Machine Gun Preacher was a horribly marketed, misunderstood and underrated film. If no one has seen it, it's worth a look. I personally found it to be a gripping account of a true story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackO Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Nicholas Cage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) But doesn't it require less time?How long does a 12 episode season shoot for? 3-4 months? And doesn't it usually take around the same amount of time to film a 2 hour blockbuster?No, filming for a 12 episode season takes more time. Most films' shooting schedules are 60-70 days max.Also, most films that have lengthy shooting schedules aren't shooting film continuously. They take breaks during the filming because they have to wait for certain climate conditions, change locations, wait for actors to free up, etc. TDKR shot between May and November 2011, but it was not continuous but staggered and broken up. Edited October 2, 2012 by 4815162342 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Overall the pay may be the same, but it's also for a far greater volume of work.How? They film what....15-20 episodes, which takes about 3-4 months to film, and that's about how long it would take to film a feature film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Kate HudsonBen AffleckJosh HartnettJosh LucasLindsay LohanWinona RyderChris O'DonnellAlicia SilverstoneColin FarrellRyan PhillippeOrlando BloomMatt DillonBrandon RossMena SuvariJesseca AlbaJust to name a fewI think the definition of flopped needs to be defined here. What exactly does it mean? To me, Lindsay Lohan is a flop because she ruined her once very promising career by becoming a drug addict and a bitch to work with. But every actor you have on that list is successful or has been in some way. Not every actor is going to be a A-lister who opens a film by themselves and makes 20 mill a movie. But I can take every one of those names and tell you why they are successful. Winona Ryder? A flop? Seriously? She's been around for 25 years and she has been working steadily ever since her debut in Lucas. She is far from a flop.Ryan Phillipe? Come on guys, these are not flops. Someone mentioned Nic Cage. Oscar winner and a huge draw for years. Not everyone stays on top, they never do. He is anything but a flop. Ryan Reynolds? Really?I find this thread to be kind of laughable. Sorry, no offense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 For me, a flop is someone Hollywood really pushed to be their next big leading man and audiences just kinda shrugged and said "Nah." that's why I think someone like Colin Farrell is a good example, because they're still trying to make him big deal what with Total Recall.You can also look at it as an actor who was once very successful but their career flopped later on. Like Winona Ryder, great actress but after that shoplifting thing her career totally took a dive. Been ages since she's had a major leading role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 For me, a flop is someone Hollywood really pushed to be their next big leading man and audiences just kinda shrugged and said "Nah." that's why I think someone like Colin Farrell is a good example, because they're still trying to make him big deal what with Total Recall.You can also look at it as an actor who was once very successful but their career flopped later on. Like Winona Ryder, great actress but after that shoplifting thing her career totally took a dive. Been ages since she's had a major leading role.She took a hit for a few years but she's working steady again. She was never a main actress before the shoplifting thing anyway. Now she's in stuff like Black Swan and the Dilemma. She's fine and her career is back on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 She took a hit for a few years but she's working steady again. She was never a main actress before the shoplifting thing anyway. Now she's in stuff like Black Swan and the Dilemma. She's fine and her career is back on track.I've never even heard of the Dilemma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I've never even heard of the Dilemma.You mean the one with Vince Vaughn, Kevin James and Jennifer Connely? A major 2011 release by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard. Haven't heard of that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 You mean the one with Vince Vaughn, Kevin James and Jennifer Connely? A major 2011 release by Imagine Entertainment and directed by Ron Howard. Haven't heard of that one?Doesn't ring any bells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 She was also pretty good in Win-Win. It'll be a struggle for her to probably get a higher profile or Oscar baity "leading lady" role again but so far she's managing to get herself cast in some pretty solid films. But I guess that's only one person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
