4815162342 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 For me a flop has to be someone whose career has never recovered for the plummet.Colin Farrell's career has recovered to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Sharon StoneJulia RobertsMIckey Rourke before his resurrection as a Zombie in The Walking Dead or was it The Wrestler ?Hilary SwankJoseph FiennesJCVDSteven SeagalStallone before ExpendablesDolph LundgrenMel Gibson ( literally banned from Hollywood, don't thing this happened before ...)Jodie FosterHarrison Ford ( last great movvie nearly 20 years ago !)Eddie Murphy ( last great movie in the eighties) :rofl:Yes, all flops. You are so right. Might as well add George Clooney to that list as he hasn't been seen in a movie for a few months. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 For me a flop has to be someone whose career has never recovered for the plummet. Colin Farrell's career has recovered to an extent. But a flop is someone that never really had much of a peak anyway. Like Lindsay Lohan, she had a promising career after Mean Girls, but sniffed it all away. Whereas to say someone like Eddie Murphy is a flop is really stupid, because he was at the height of fame for a good 10 year period. I don't expect all stars to be at the top forever, and when aren't, you can hardly call them flops. They had their time, and now they're taking backseat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Agree, but I think Futuris was being facetious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Agree, but I think Futuris was being facetious.Not really, I misunderstood the purpose of the thread and in deed, has beens don't work here.But I maintain Sharon Stone, she could have been so much more after her Oscar nomination for Casino, her career became a trainwreck, she was just a star but not a movie star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) She got an Oscar nomination and was a big star for about 8 years until around the time she did The Muse. Yeah, she's no flop, just a has-been. Nothing wrong with that, better than being a not-been. Edited October 3, 2012 by Barney Ross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Taylor Kitsch ?Has the jury decided yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 But a flop is someone that never really had much of a peak anyway. Like Lindsay Lohan, she had a promising career after Mean Girls, but sniffed it all away. Whereas to say someone like Eddie Murphy is a flop is really stupid, because he was at the height of fame for a good 10 year period. I don't expect all stars to be at the top forever, and when aren't, you can hardly call them flops. They had their time, and now they're taking backseat. Correct. I don't mean people who had big careers that suddenly went south like Mel Gibson or Eddie Murphy. I mean people who studios pushed for the stars but it backfired and their careers never recovered from the fallout. Example- Taylor Kitsch will be a major flop if his career never recovers from the John Carter/Battleship tag-team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Taylor Kitsch does not flop yet but he is ready. Edited October 3, 2012 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Taylor Kitsch, yeah, I agree, a flop. But then I spoose you've got to ask yourself whether anybody really expected much from him anyway. I mean, his acting ability is pretty basic and he's nothing special in the looks department. I suppose it's the same with all of the recent "big new things" like Sam Worthington, Kitsch, Tatum etc. None of them can act, and none of them are appealing or have the slightest bit of charisma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Taylor Lautner is also destined to make this list. Abduction was step one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Yes, well, I think we can add all the people from both the Twilight and Harry Potter franchises to the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Stewart, Watson, and Pattinson all have potential to rise above. Stewart would have a second franchise if she didn't bang the director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toymaker Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Everyone in this thread has/had potential, that's the whole point. My statement is suggesting that while potential is present, it will be frittered away. Going on the basis that acting ability is important, Stewart and Watson will not have careers. Pattinson I am not too sure about, but I feel his vacant expression will lose him many roles and thus his career will be over pretty soon. It's hard when you star in a big franchise to get any type of career afterwards. Take Mark Hamill for example, and Carrie Fisher. These two were equally as bad at acting as Emily Watson, Radcliffe and Stewart, so I just don't see the future being bright for any of the HP/Twilight cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Tatum somehow rised this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Emily Watson (2-time Academy Award nominee) is someone completely different from Emma Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I'll give you Radcliffe, he's horrible, but jury is still out on Watson and the Twilight duo. All three are decent actors and if buzzed is to believed, Watson proves herself in non-Potter roles in Perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I'll give you Radcliffe, he's horrible, but jury is still out on Watson and the Twilight duo. All three are decent actors and if buzzed is to believed, Watson proves herself in non-Potter roles in Perks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) I think we are losing sight of what the original intent of the thread was. This is about actors that were supposed to be the next thing and it didn't happen. At least that's what I would interpret a "flop" as. Injecting "has beens" into this discussion is tantamount to saying the entire Chris Reeve Superman series was a flop because of Superman IV. Has been actors have had their "15 minutes" of fame, whereas, at least relatively, people like Paul Bettany, Sam Worthington, etc. have had about 1 or none(or benefited from someone else's "15 mins" as Worthington has with Avatar, Terminator and Clash of the Titans).I agree. I don't think names like Demi Moore or Ben Affleck are flops. Both were major stars for many years and have whole catalogues of movies they were stars in. Not everyone can be like Clint Eastwood or Meryl Streep and stay on top forever. However, if you were a big time headliner at one point in time, then you can't be considered a flop.Alicia Silverstone had her moments in The Crush and Clueless (which inspired a generation of young girls). She clearly was a star at one point. Julia Roberts broke out in Pretty Woman and has followed that up with movies like Conspiracy Theory and Erin Brochovich; she's a leading lady and not a flop at all. I have no idea how she could be on this list. She stars in movies.Orlando Bloom is a good example of a flop. I think Ethan Hawke fits the description. Elisha Cuthbert really hasn't done much since The Girl Next Door. Edited October 3, 2012 by Walt Disney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Julia Roberts is the highest grossing leading lady of all time. She should be nowhere near this conversation. Edited October 3, 2012 by Expendable baumer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
