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This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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China Box Office: General Discussion Thread

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How much do you expect Tintin to open with next weekend?

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Overal Records:

Biggest all time release: Avatar (1391.2M yuan/200M $)

Biggest 2D+3D release: Avatar (1391.2M yuan/200M $)

Biggest 2D release: Mission Impossible 4 (678.9M yuan/107M $)

Biggest 3D release: Titanic 3D (941.5M yuan/150M $)

Biggest re-release: Titanic 3D (941.5M yuan/150M $)

Biggest release that never hit #1: Flying Swords of Dragon Gate(3D) 龙门飞甲 (558M yuan/88M $)

Longest hold at all time #1: Titanic (11 years, 360M yuan/43M $)

IMAX:

Biggest IMAX midnight: Titanic 3D (1.67M yuan/265K $, 62 screens)

Biggest IMAX OD: Titanic 3D (5.7M yuan/0.9M $, 66 screens)

Biggest IMAX Opening Week: Titanic 3D (39M yuan/6.1M $, 66 screens)

Biggest IMAX release: Avatar (200M yuan/30M $, 13 screens)

Widest IMAX release: TDKR (74 screens)

Opening records:

All time opening record: Titanic 3D (468M yuan/74M $)

1 day opening record: Prometheus (29M yuan, $4.6M)

2 days opening record: The Avengers (120M yuan, $19M)

3 days opening record: Men in Black 3 (158M yuan, $25M)

4 days opening record: Transformers 3 (401M yuan, $63M)

5 days opening record: You Are the One 2 非诚勿扰2 (209M yuan, $31M)

6 days opening record: Titanic 3D (468M yuan/74M $)

7 days opening record: Avatar (287M yuan, $42M)

All time biggest opening records & jumps in China:

Titanic (1998) ¥48M

Hero (2002) ¥53M +10%

House of Flying Daggers (2004) ¥55M +3%

KungFu (2004) ¥64M +16%

The Promise (2005) ¥75M +17%

The City of Golden Armor (2006) ¥96M +28%

Transformers (2007) ¥97M +1%

Red Cliff 1 (2008)¥108M +11%

Transformers 2 (2009) ¥160M +48%

Avatar (2010) ¥287M +79%

Transformers 3 (2011) ¥401M +40%

Titanic 3D (2012) ¥468M +17%

[All jumps will be bigger in $. ]

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Wow that much? Are the comics popular there? I didn't think it had much appeal outside of Europe.

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Opening on 15th, a Tuesday. Should do 12M~15M 5 days.

6 days, right? :)So that would mean a final total in 30-40m range. I hope it is closer to 40m.

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Wow that much? Are the comics popular there? I didn't think it had much appeal outside of Europe.

Tintin was a lot popular in 80s and 90s in China and India and other South-East Asian markets.

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China Box Office Yearly 2012 (As of Sep 23) Rank (#) Title Studio Total Gross (¥) Total Gross ($) Open 1 Titanic 3D Fox ¥975,900,000 $154,904,762 Apr 10 2 画皮2 Huayi ¥726,390,000 $115,300,000 Jun 28 3 Mission Impossible 4 Par. ¥679,180,000 $107,806,349 Jan 28 4 The Avengers BV ¥575,960,000 $91,422,222 May 05 5 Men in Black 3 Sony ¥519,200,000 $82,412,698 May 25 6 Ice Age 4 Fox ¥457,800,000 $72,666,667 Jul 27 7 Journey 2 WB ¥387,840,000 $61,561,905 Feb 10 8 The Dark Knight Rises WB ¥343,600,000 $54,539,683 Aug 2 Edited by firedeep

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Tintin was a lot popular in 80s and 90s in China and India and other South-East Asian markets.

When my family lived in India I had quite few Tintin comics. A lot of my friends did as well.Fake, how do you see it doing in India.

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Tintin was very popular in the 80s in China. And many people are waiting to see it.

No. Actually far from it.

The Smurfs was A LOT more popular than Tintin, and it opened less than 14m and earned a total of 40m. Tintin will do less.

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When my family lived in India I had quite few Tintin comics. A lot of my friends did as well.Fake, how do you see it doing in India.

It'll do about 2m including previews destroying the last animated feature record of 1.25m by KFP2

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No. Actually far from it.The Smurfs was A LOT more popular than Tintin, and it opened less than 14m and earned a total of 40m. Tintin will do less.

Probably about 25m from China I'd guess.

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No. Actually far from it.The Smurfs was A LOT more popular than Tintin, and it opened less than 14m and earned a total of 40m. Tintin will do less.

All the articles I have read from Chinese press, it seemed pretty popular (whether at the levels of Smurfs, I don't know).Also, China seems to like action-adventure. So it could have done fairly decently in China even with no earlier awareness.

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Any word on Chinese opening?

UIP dailies (which include China I believe) jumped from $400K on the 14th to $1.5M and $1.3M on the 15th and the 16th. An educated guess would be that Tintin scored about $1M in China on these 2 days.

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Am I missing something? Didn't DH2 do just as well as POTC4?

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Any chance of getting the Top 30 list in the first post in US Dollars?Just wondering, no biggy if not.

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Weekly BO(11.14-11.20) from Entgroup

Rank Title Gross(MUS$) Cumulative Gross(MUS$) Screening days Screening numbers Admissions Average Ticket Price Distributors

1 Love is Not Blind $14.92 $43.41 13 85802 3101326 $4 CFGC

2 The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn $9.39 $9.39 6 47421 1663887 $5 Huaxia CFGC

3 Real Steel $5.77 $14.52 13 37629 1173225 $4 CFGC Huaxia

4 Immortals $4.43 $9.54 10 34496 801134 $5 Huaxia

5 Legendary Amazons $3.53 $3.53 3 26284 747009 $4 Eastern Mordor CFGC

6 Rise of the Planet of the Apes $1.58 $30.10 24 15514 321332 $4 Huaxia CFGC

7 Detective Conan Quarter of Silence $0.26 $4.56 17 4908 59401 $4 CFGC

8 Starry Starry Night $0.14 $2.44 18 3310 28868 $4 Huayi Brothers CFGC CFGDC

9 Kora $0.08 $0.70 18 1412 16700 $4 Tailhe Universal Film Investment Co., LTD An Le( Bei Jing) Dian Ying Fa Hang Co., LTD CFGC

10 Zuo Li Jun $0.08 $0.24 14 87 16007 $4 Huaxia

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So Tintin opened $9.39m on a 6-day. For comparison, The Smurfs did $13.79m in 5 days.

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