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China Box Office: General Discussion Thread

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NCsoft    448
2 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

I enjoyed it. It is more like a drama film and remind me of 12 Years a Slave

 

The facial features and actions of Caesar and Apes are so great so natural. But it's not how "we" judge if a movie have great VE. They judge that by how many thrilling spectacles it shows, like Furious or TF series, "the best VE in human history."

 

Also, the story won't work for most Chinese audience. It's a Impetuous era and it's too hard for them to have fun from a movie without complicated plots and fast-paced.

 

Yeah ,I kind of the got the feeling that Chinese audience won't like it too much after seeing it, it almost felt like it was created for fans of Dawn, generally people who liked Dawn would enjoy it, others perhaps not so much.

The motion capture and visual effects were spectacular, too bad that it's not showy enough, I do think that Dawn should have won Academy best visual effect over interstellar, for some reason the visuals in this series are underappreciated across the board.

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POTUS    4,255

DM3 bumped to 58m.  1B still alive

PS down just 6% for tomorrow

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TigerPaw    399
6 minutes ago, POTUS said:

DM3 bumped to 58m.  1B still alive

The new opener - Wu Kong's bad WoM is helping DM3.

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Gavin Feng    3,048

SAT

before service charges

Wukong  -  96.6m / 281.4m

DM3  -  54.9m / 672.6m

Meow  -  9.99m / 20.3m

Dahufa  -  8.61m / 20.6m

TF5  -  4.53m / 1,444m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  4.43m / 184.5m

Fist & Faith  -  3.19m / 20.8m

Brotherhood of Blood  -  1.31m (previews)

 

after service charges

Wukong  -  103.3m / 301.1m

DM3  -  58.5m / 719.5m

Meow  -  10.6m / 21.5m

Dahufa  -  9.1m / 21.4m

TF5  -  4.85m / 1,535m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  4.76m / 196.9m

Fist & Faith  -  3.35m / 22.3m

Brotherhood of Blood  -  1.39m (previews)

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Gavin Feng    3,048

SUN

before service charges

Wukong  -  88.3m / 369.3m

DM3  -  52.7m / 724.7m

Dahufa  -  10.7m / 31.3m

Meow  -  8.83m / 29m

Father and Son  -  5.83m (previews, 5.7 on Douban & 8.2 on Maoyan, starring by Da Peng, Jian Bing Man)

TF5  -  4.85m / 1,449m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  4.19m / 188.7m

Fist & Faith  -  3.21m / 24m

Brotherhood of Blood  -  1.87m / 3.18m (previews, 7.6 on Douban & 8.6 on Maoyan, will open on next WED)

 

after service charges

Wukong  -  95m / 395.4m

DM3  -  56.5m / 775.3m

Dahufa  -  11.5m / 32.9m

Meow  -  9.5m / 30.5m

Father and Son  -  6.21m (previews, 5.7 on Douban & 8.2 on Maoyan, starring by Da Peng, Jian Bing Man)

TF5  -  5.2m / 1,541m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  4.5m / 201.4m

Fist & Faith  -  3.38m / 25.7m

Brotherhood of Blood  -  2.02m / 3.38m (previews, 7.6 on Douban & 8.6 on Maoyan, will open on next WED)

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TigerPaw    399
4 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

SUN

before service charges

Wukong  -  88.3m / 369.3m

DM3  -  52.7m / 724.7m

Dahufa  -  10.7m / 31.3m

Meow  -  8.83m / 29m

Father and Son  -  5.83m (previews, 5.7 on Douban & 8.2 on Maoyan, starring by Da Peng, Jian Bing Man)

TF5  -  4.85m / 1,449m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  4.19m / 188.7m

Fist & Faith  -  3.21m / 24m

Brotherhood of Blood  -  1.87m / 3.18m (previews, 7.6 on Douban & 8.6 on Maoyan, will open on next WED)

 

after service charges

Wukong  -  95m / 395.4m

DM3  -  56.5m / 775.3m

Dahufa  -  11.5m / 32.9m

Meow  -  9.5m / 30.5m

Father and Son  -  6.21m (previews, 5.7 on Douban & 8.2 on Maoyan, starring by Da Peng, Jian Bing Man)

TF5  -  5.2m / 1,541m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  4.5m / 201.4m

Fist & Faith  -  3.38m / 25.7m

Brotherhood of Blood  -  2.02m / 3.38m (previews, 7.6 on Douban & 8.6 on Maoyan, will open on next WED)

看来将有黑马诞生。

looks like a Dark Horse will emerge - refering to Brotherhood of Blood.

Anyway, Is Wu Kong fudging? Bad WoM yet such a good Sunday Hold?!

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Gavin Feng    3,048
1 hour ago, TigerPaw said:

看来将有黑马诞生。

looks like a Dark Horse will emerge - refering to Brotherhood of Blood.

Anyway, Is Wu Kong fudging? Bad WoM yet such a good Sunday Hold?!

No evidence that something wrong with Wukong. Original release date of Brotherhood of Blood is Aug. Some local movies changed its date from July to Aug and made SARFT feel angry. July box office could be worse if BoB didn't come to here.

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Gavin Feng    3,048

MON

before service charges

Wukong  -  43.3m / 412.6m

DM3  -  21.3m / 748.3m

Dahufa  -  7.04m / 38.4m

Meow  -  4.47m / 33.3m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  2.98m / 191.7m

TF5  -  2.34m / 1,451m

Fist & Faith  -  1.78m / 25.8m

 

after service charges

Wukong  -  46.2m / 440.8m

DM3  -  22.8m / 798.8m

Dahufa  -  7.45m / 40.3m

Meow  -  4.75m / 35.4m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  3.2m / 205.3m

TF5  -  2.5m / 1,543m

Fist & Faith  -  1.95m / 27.7m

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Gavin Feng    3,048

TUE

before service charges

Wukong  -  38.5m / 451.6m

DM3  -  19.3m / 767.7m

Dahufa  -  6.41m / 44.3m

続・深夜食堂  -  4.06m

Meow  -  3.13m / 35.9m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  2.32m / 194.1m

TF5  -  2.11m / 1,453m

 

after service charges

Wukong  -  41.3m / 485.9m

DM3  -  20.8m / 821.6m

Dahufa  -  6.9m / 47.4m

続・深夜食堂  -  4.35m

Meow  -  3.35m / 39.1m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  2.5m / 208.2m

TF5  -  2.25m / 1,546m

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jiangsen    561
1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said:

TUE

before service charges

Wukong  -  38.5m / 451.6m

DM3  -  19.3m / 767.7m

Dahufa  -  6.41m / 44.3m

続・深夜食堂  -  4.06m

Meow  -  3.13m / 35.9m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  2.32m / 194.1m

TF5  -  2.11m / 1,453m

 

after service charges

Wukong  -  41.3m / 485.9m

DM3  -  20.8m / 821.6m

Dahufa  -  6.9m / 47.4m

続・深夜食堂  -  4.35m

Meow  -  3.35m / 39.1m

The House That Never Dies Ⅱ -  2.5m / 208.2m

TF5  -  2.25m / 1,546m

English title is Midnight Diner 2

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Gavin Feng    3,048

It's so boring to follow China box office in recent days, isn't it?

 

So now, something funny is going on. Chinese animation movie Dahufa was denounced by Communist Youth League(共青团中央) OA in social media. CYL is mass organization of Chinese Communist Party, and Chinese former lead Hu Jingtao was one of them.

 

So here is the thing: The story of Dahufa showed audience many metaphor to insinuate and satirize Fascism. It isn't so friendly to family audience while movie fans love this kind of movies. So ordinary 8.3/10 on Maoyan but great 8.1/10 on Douban. And the great WOM from Douban doesn't work on its box office. And then, CYL published an article yesterday which said,

 

"......

 

In fact, in this kind of condition that marketing is the king, marketing and distribution works are the key of the success or failure of any movie, excepting you have great quality and water army with no paying like Monkey King: Hero is Back. After making a deal of showtimes with theater chains, it's also important if the movie scams and hype.

 

Like a movie opened in recent days, it didn't have much showtimes and average occupancy. But it earned more and more attentions by the hype of rating the movie on his own initiative(It suggested PG-13 by itself) and some kind of the metaphor fulling of malice. Then the showtimes and average occupancy became better and better.

 

......"

 

It got out of hand. Many internet users commented that why CYL was so emotional about the movie, or if they just admitted Communist Party = Fascism.

 

"CYL remind me of my Junior high school teacher." 1797 like it

 

-"Stink CYL." 1254 like it

-"Why you insult 'stink'?" 10 like it

 

"I was not supposed to watch it. But now, CYL made me change my mind." 1071 like it

 

CYL, which has a guilty conscience.” 766 like it

 

“We were World War II victors, weren't we?” 416 like it

 

“That movie is not good one, mess story, bad rhythm, stupid dialogue, bloody for nothing. But CYL is the most evil thing.” 183 like it

 

"Please kill the boss of SARFT." 94 like it

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jiangsen    561
3 hours ago, Gavin Feng said:

It's so boring to follow China box office in recent days, isn't it?

 

So now, something funny is going on. Chinese animation movie Dahufa was denounced by Communist Youth League(共青团中央) OA in social media. CYL is mass organization of Chinese Communist Party, and Chinese former lead Hu Jingtao was one of them.

 

So here is the thing: The story of Dahufa showed audience many metaphor to insinuate and satirize Fascism. It isn't so friendly to family audience while movie fans love this kind of movies. So ordinary 8.3/10 on Maoyan but great 8.1/10 on Douban. And the great WOM from Douban doesn't work on its box office. And then, CYL published an article yesterday which said,

 

"......

 

In fact, in this kind of condition that marketing is the king, marketing and distribution works are the key of the success or failure of any movie, excepting you have great quality and water army with no paying like Monkey King: Hero is Back. After making a deal of showtimes with theater chains, it's also important if the movie scams and hype.

 

Like a movie opened in recent days, it didn't have much showtimes and average occupancy. But it earned more and more attentions by the hype of rating the movie on his own initiative(It suggested PG-13 by itself) and some kind of the metaphor fulling of malice. Then the showtimes and average occupancy became better and better.

 

......"

 

It got out of hand. Many internet users commented that why CYL was so emotional about the movie, or if they just admitted Communist Party = Fascism.

 

"CYL remind me of my Junior high school teacher." 1797 like it

 

-"Stink CYL." 1254 like it

-"Why you insult 'stink'?" 10 like it

 

"I was not supposed to watch it. But now, CYL made me change my mind." 1071 like it

 

CYL, which has a guilty conscience.” 766 like it

 

“We were World War II victors, weren't we?” 416 like it

 

“That movie is not good one, mess story, bad rhythm, stupid dialogue, bloody for nothing. But CYL is the most evil thing.” 183 like it

 

"Please kill the boss of SARFT." 94 like it

Thanks for this @Gavin Feng

 

To help clarify some of what you are saying (your grasp of English is still very impressive, buddy)...

 

Many netizens were quite surprised (and elated) Dahufa was able to pass Chinese censors even with such veiled criticisms of the CPC (Communist Party of China). For example, one line that seems to be making the rounds is "Why is the sun so red, yet so cold?"

 

The Communist Youth League (CYL), a CPC youth movement in which many high-level Chinese government leaders have started their careers in, took to its WeChat account to primarily rail against the low screen counts given to Battle of Xiangjiang River, a propaganda film -- in Chinese these films are called "main-melody films" -- released on June 30.

 

Their argument actually started off fairly logical and is a qualm many in the industry have been citing for awhile. They claimed that small indie films or films produced for low- to mid- budgets often can't afford the marketing costs Chinese blockbusters can and even if they are high quality, they are squeezed out of theaters by exhibitors.

 

But then, as party mouthpieces are often wont to do, the CYL shifted its attention and the results show just how thin-skinned those in power can be:

 

"In fact, under current market conditions where marketing is king, apart from a film like Monkey King: Hero Is Back with exceptional quality and a host of devoted fans who post fervently and independently on social media (in Chinese these fans are called "tap water" as opposed to the "water army" who are paid for their comments), the success or failure of a film has already been determined by marketing and distribution."

 

"Take for example a certain movie that has opened recently. Its screen share and attendance rate weren't very high at the start, but the hype surrounding this so-called "adult-leaning animation" as the first Chinese film ever to administer its own rating (remember China still doesn't have a rating system), as well as its numerous political metaphors full of evil intentions, has helped attract more and more eyeballs, thereby improving its situation."

 

This was just a small part of CYL's criticism. In general, the article seemed to be directed more at moviegoers' resistance to "main-melody films" in the age of Chinese blockbusters. It'll be interesting to see how The Founding of An Army performs when it opens July 28 and how the powers-that-be will frame what happens, especially since it'll be going up against the more commercial Wolf Warrior 2.

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firedeep    6,542

Wolf Warrior 2 = new propaganda film or patriotic movie

 

CYL = evil, they are like the worst part of CCP, so flattering, bureaucratic and helpless, yet always desperately barking at everthing that could be interpreted / farfetched unpatriotic or authority-challenging, only to show to their masters they are doing their duty. They are not, but act even more so than a party mouthpiece.

 

Don't be surprised if Dahufa is pulled out of theaters in one or two days.

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Gavin Feng    3,048

WED

before service charges

Brotherhood of Blades  -  31.9m / 35.6m

Wukong  -  26.1m / 477.8m

DM3  -  15.9m / 783.7m

Dahufa  -  5.17m / 49.5m

Midnight Diner 2  -  1.97m / 6.03m

TF5  -  1.21m / 1,454m

 

after service charges

Brotherhood of Blades  -  34.3m / 38.3m

Wukong  -  28m / 514.6m

DM3  -  17.1m / 839.3m

Dahufa  -  5.5m / 53m

Midnight Diner 2  -  2.1m / 6.4m

TF5  -  1.29m / 1,547m

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Gavin Feng    3,048

Admissions

 

               
               
      Rank Title Box Office - Mil Average Price Admission - Mil
      1 The Mermaid ¥3,392.07  ¥36.7  92.43 
      2 The Fate of the Furious ¥2,670.56  ¥36.6  72.97 
      3 Monster Hunter ¥2,439.97  ¥37.2  65.59 
      4 Furious 7 ¥2,426.59  ¥38.9  62.38 
      5 Lost in Hong Kong ¥1,613.54  ¥32.9  49.04 
      6 Transformers: Age of Extinction ¥1,976.51  ¥41.6  47.51 
      7 Mojin ¥1,682.73  ¥36.3  46.36 
      8 Kung Fu Yoga ¥1,752.68  ¥38.2  45.88 
      9 Zootopia ¥1,530.35  ¥33.6  45.55 
      10 Goodbye Mr. Loser ¥1,441.59  ¥32.2  44.77 
      11 Dangal ¥1,298.62  ¥30.1  43.14 
      12 Journey to the West 2 ¥1,656.37  ¥39.2  42.25 
      13 Transformers: The Last Knight ¥1,550.00  ¥37.0  41.89 
      14 Warcraft ¥1,471.97  ¥37.1  39.68 
      15 Operation Mekong ¥1,184.00  ¥30.4  38.95 
      16 Jurassic World ¥1,420.70  ¥38.3  37.09 
      17 Avengers: Age of Ultron ¥1,464.39  ¥40.0  36.61 
      18 Captain America: Civil War ¥1,246.24  ¥35.0  35.61 
      19 Lost in Tailand ¥1,271.36  ¥36.4  34.93 
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