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  1. The discourse about “hiding it’s a musical” makes me think about the THG: BOSS. Although I wouldn’t go as far as calling it a musical, Rachel Ziegler’s character sang like 8 songs. A lot of non book readers didn’t know there would be singing and I did see some tiktoks that thought the singingwas cringe. But overall people still seemed to like the movie and  it had good legs. 
     

    This movie has a similar target audience, so i guess I just don’t get why not knowing a movie is a musical would make people mad or affect audience reaction and WOM. 

  2. 11 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

    Twilight hasn’t been relevant in over a decade. That’s because hardly anyone cares about it anymore. Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart have constantly poked fun at how terrible they think those movies are, and no one bats an eye. 

    yeah the idea that just because this movie had  "a pseudo romance" as a  part of its plot means that they were going for the "Twilight" audience just makes no sense. The movie scape has changed completely . it's not 2012.

     

     

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  3. 2 hours ago, ThePrinceIsOnFire said:

     

    I didn't see it so I'm neutral on it, I just comment on the basis of its box office results. And again, I'm not comparing the actual movie to Twilight and After for its genre/plot but for the target audience that they share, which is girls aged 13-29 who are into YA novel romance.  I don't get what's ridiculous about it other than pheraps your negative opinion on Twilight/After that is clouding your judgement, when no one is comparing them on the basis of their quality or plot, just their target audience. Which, once again, is not even a comparison that I came up with, since thenumbers and countless of other sites have used them as comps.

    wait you didn't even see it? And you've been calling the film shitty? lmao 🤣

     

    "After" demo makes no sense That movie made 12 million domestic and 6 million OW. It basically only was successful because of it's overseas gross.  so the logic that they would target that audience in the US makes no sense. Romance movies are going straight to streaming because studios think there's no audience for them. Twilight ended 12 fucking years ago. That demo doesn't exist anymore. 

  4. 3 hours ago, ThePrinceIsOnFire said:

    This movie was aiming for the Twilight/After demo of horny teen girls (and maybe gays), and it is ultimately what made it into a slight success. I say "slight" because it went on to earn less than half of what the last HG did worldwide and sold about 1/3 of its tickets, and only made a profit due to a smartly lowered budget. 

    I think that it did comparatively worse internationally than dom because they weren't able to sell it as a romance overseas, but rather tried to push the gore and action sequences that were typical of the other HG films, but the overall quality of the CGI (which verges on terrible) and the "been there, done that" sense of deja-vu from the promotional material actually worked against it. It doesn't help that it also got borderline terrible reviews in many countries, much worse than the mixed consensus it received in the USA. 

    Please no one expected a movie with none of the original cast based on a book a lot of people didn't know existed long after the YA hype died down to make as much as the originals. They made the budget lower intentionally. I'm sure their happy with the results. 

     

    Also you're insistence on comparing this to Twilight and After is ridiculous. Just say you didn't like the movie. That's fine. 

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  5. 3 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said:

    Woah buddy

    I agree with them. Color Purple is a musical adaption of a movie a lot of black men accuse of being "anti-black men" I don't agree with that depiction and I personally loved both films, but I can't deny it's a pretty common belief. 

     

    I know Woman King had this weird misogynist  internet campaign against it at the time it was released but the film in general has much more appeal to black men in particular. So I don't get the assertion that TCP appeals more to men. 

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  6. 2 minutes ago, Wandavisionlover0924 said:

    Does anyone have the indepth demo for this movie and  I can't find the article that gives whole insight. I remember someone mentioning earlier in this thread that the advantage TCP that Woman King didn't was that it appealed to men

    completely anecdotal but my 21 year old (black) brother and his friends loved the Woman King. Saw it in theaters nad said it was one of his favorite films of 2022. 

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  7. 1 hour ago, ThePrinceIsOnFire said:

    While It just isn't that good of a movie, it's a perfect fit for its target audience (girls aged 15-30). The opening weekend probably had a more varied public who hoped to find some of the gore/action that is typical of the hunger games saga, instead they were left with a musical with a strong focus on romance that somehow favours more twilight in its atmosphere than HG.  Once the good word of mouth spread amongst the teen girls it started to gain legs. It basically took a slice of the Twilight/After etc... audience and ran with it, facing no direct competition for months. If anything, it shows that there is still room for young adult sagas aimed at girls.

     

    Cinema score is based on opening night. Not opening weekend. 

     

    I also think the comparison to twilight and After is ridiculous lmao. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, Last Man Standing said:

    I had no idea it had a B+ CS, kind of odd considering I've mostly been hearing positive things about it.

    Obviously some sort of anomaly considering the legs. I read a theory on Reddit that opening night was flooded with fans of the book who might have disliked some of the changes from the book.
     

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  9. 1 hour ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

    pretty good

    but some small character moments made me think this had the potential to be something truly extraordinary if it was more committed to a theme and more fully tied it around its exploration of Snow 

    like the third act, but it really needed an international monologue, the actual hunger games, outside of some moments that got a bit a creative, really didn't do much for me this time around, the pacing a bit awkward at times and the movie sometimes tried a bit too hard 

    I'll have to check out the book

     

     

    yeah the book was basically all internal monologue and that was a huge aspect the movie didn't have which made Snow come off as a lot more likeable and also took away some interesting character development. In the book it's clear from the very beginning he's a self serving asshole but that's not as clear in the movie.Like the movie kinda depicts Snow and Sejanus as "best friends" but in the book Snow spends so much time talking about how much he hates the guy and only tolerates him because of his money lol. 

     

     

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