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I have a good feeling about this film, Gunn does seem to really “get” what makes Superman an endearing character when most of DC forgot that long ago.
I think the movie’s release date could use some breathing room, though. Marvel scheduling Fantastic Four for two weeks after will most likely cut into its IMAX run. I was going to say a bump up a week or so for a July 2nd midweek release would be good, but it seems like Jurassic World 4 is gonna make that date after all. Maybe early June?
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Just now, DInky said:
But after that Cap 4 will bomb miserably so we're right back where we started.
Possibly. Marvel doesn’t seem to have a ton of faith in the film if they are pushing it back to 2025 despite being mostly finished.I imagine the rest of the lineup through Kang Dynasty/ Secret Wars will probably be more or less hit or miss, Marvel is gonna have to get used to no longer being a guaranteed hit machine. Whether they can learn from that and start up Phase 6 or 7 or whatever with the X-Men and Fantastic Four properly is going to be the real test.
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All this doom and gloom is going to look real funny when Deadpool 3 does $400m next summer and everyone proclaims “Marvel is back!”
Most of us saw a bomb coming miles away. It’s been building over the mixed reception of phase 4 (5 now?) and it is just kind of culminating here. It’s a bit jarring and ironic that the first Captain Marvel was the culmination of peak MCU interest/hype/goodwill, and it just so happens the sequel is the culmination of all of that going away.
I’d say it’s time for Marvel to take a step back and reevaluate their formula, but it seems they might be doing that, with the major shake up to the Disney Plus series and the schedule reshuffling. Time will tell I guess.
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On 9/30/2023 at 10:59 PM, El Squibbonator said:
And when you're doing the same thing often enough for a parody like this to work,
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Barbenheimer combined domestic gross is $936.3m as of Monday and today the duo will pass TFA’s $936.7m in domestic earnings.
It’s two movies vs one but it’s still fun to point out considering the pop culture phenomenon has the two so closely tied.
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2 hours ago, MrPink said:
Gotta keep in mind that Equalizer 3 being released ate into it while Labor Day is usually empty. Plus it’ll get an expansion at some point to claw back a couple million
Yeah. Zero chance this doesn’t take advantage of some slow weekends for an IMAX second run. With Dune moving they could probably do a week or two at Christmas then another for awards season in February-
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These are some pretty shite Labor Day numbers for pretty much all the holdovers honestly. I figured maybe studios were being conservative with Sunday estimates but no if anything they are kind of bullish. Even Barbenheimer didn’t hold all that well considering Labor Day is usually a small decrease or increase for holdovers.
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Oppenheimer is crushing Equalizer 3 in presales at Mall of Georgia IMAX. They are sharing the screen and while Opp has better showtimes for sure (1:50/6pm) E3 presales are single digits while Opp is 50-75% full depending on the time. Looks like it’s last day is Monday unfortunately, then E3 gets a full schedule through Thursday when something called Jawan opens? It’s presales aren’t exactly high either.
I just don’t understand why any 70mm IMAX would drop it. Seems like it’s gonna do way better than any upcoming release there for a while.
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1 hour ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Pretty great Wednesday hold for Oppy.
Should be around $310m after Labor Day Monday off a weekend of around $6m-ish. I think Deadpool 2 at $324.5m can go down. “It” sits at $328.8m, and Joker at $335m. I’m hoping it has enough in the tank to top the latter, but even if it doesn’t within the next couple months, I am wondering what the odds of a 70mm expansion around January or February for awards season could do. Seems like a real missed opportunity if they don’t.-
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Need at least $754,990 from Oppenheimer
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Studios have been rolling “sneaks” in with opening day/weekend grosses for years. Back when BOM was a well run site, you’d see on occasion in the weekend reports “X movie played to advance shows this past Saturday”, sometimes I think the grosses for those would go to totally different movies (owned by the same studio of course) but I’d need to do some digging to confirm that.
That said 9 days of previews is really dumb to count in with a Friday number, but so are 2-3pm Thursday grosses. I didn’t really care as much when it was 9-10pm shows, but every year it just got earlier and earlier.
You’d figure with every studio wanting to make as many films “events” these days, one way to do so would be a midnight launch again. It’s old enough to feel almost “retro” now, tons of Gen-Z’ers probably never experienced one. If Marvel ends up desperate for hype at some point in the future, maybe something they should consider.
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1 hour ago, redfirebird2008 said:
It’s all a bunch of crap that needs to be reported accurately. I remember the old days when early previews (before midnight) were not rolled into opening day numbers. WB tried to do it for Matrix Reloaded and the administrator of Box Office Mojo refused to go along with it. He posted the Wednesday preview number ($5 million) completely separate from the opening Thursday, even though WB wanted all of it rolled together. Similar deal for Pirates 3, which had 7 PM shows on Thursday evening and BOM reported the $13M preview number separate from Friday’s gross, even though Disney wanted it all lumped together.
If you go way back in time, you can find Thursday previews reported separately on movies like Batman 89 and Jurassic Park. When the midnight massacre happened with TDKR, the entire industry decided it was a good time to start including Thursday shows as part of the Friday number. It’s a bunch of BS.
Yeah I’m really sick of the Thursday numbers being counted in with Friday at this point. Especially when a lot of these movies now are having shows at 2 and 3pm.-
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Oppenheimer is going to pass Inception sometime this weekend, likely Friday.
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I wonder how much Blue Beetle made in Imax this weekend vs Oppenheimer last weekend. I’m sure Imax as a company is very happy with this contractual obligation.
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No Way Home isn’t a masterpiece in storytelling but it is an absolute home run on doing fan service. It’s clunky as shit, and the plot only operates on a “fuck it, this is what we’re doing” level.
There is some genuinely great stuff in there though, with character development on Holland’s part and stuff like Tobey interacting with a cured Doc Ock and Garfield getting his redemption. And of course Dafoe absolutely crushing every frame he’s in.
Its the definition of a “turn your brain off” movie like the Fast/Furious and Transformers movies try so hard to be.
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Shang Chi really lost me in the third act when it abandoned fun martial arts fantasy and became full on Marvel cgi battles. Other than that I quite enjoyed it.
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1 hour ago, ringedmortality said:
Pitt then Smith.
Smith turning down Inception and D'jango has gotta be two of the dumbest rejections of his career, especially since he was starting his decline right around that time.
I actually didn’t know he turned down Inception. He also turned down The Matrix to do Wild Wild West but at least that’s understandable since the Wachowski’s were essentially nobodies at the time and he was working with the same team that made MIB a hit.Still, the “would-be” of all these roles lol
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-20% for Oppenheimer really isn’t all that bad considering Blue Beetle took a ton of IMAX screens most of the day.
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I think James Gunn is a good director for Superman based on his comments about the character and their direction of the film, but I’ll be totally honest I’d be much more excited if it were standalone instead of another would-be cinematic universe starter. I say that as someone who’s more of a fan of DC characters than Marvel, I just don’t see the point after Infinity War/Endgame. Like, sure, it’d be cool, but chances are the outcome is just gonna be a DC rebranding of Endgame in 10 years if all is successful.
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2 hours ago, Cappoedameron said:
im going to vomit worst timeline.
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Blue Beetle won’t follow Flash exactly but in a morbid sorta way I want it to because an $18m opening would be a hilarious nail in the DCEU coffin.
Realistically $25-28m
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31 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Valid point on Sing’s 3D boost.
Here is my rough calculation for Oppy. Recent report was that 29% of the domestic money is IMAX. I figure we can remove 50% of the IMAX money to get an idea of the dollar gross if those IMAX shows were just regular shows.
So Oppy would be around $233M total without IMAX boost. Average price of $10.50 would be 22 million tickets. Average price of $11.00 would be 21 million tickets. Average price of $11.50 would be 20 million tickets.
I can’t fault the math/method, seems as good as any. Might as well go with the sweet spot in the middle with 21m lol-
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3 hours ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Inflation & IMAX are powerful tools. Ticket sales…Sing = 31 million tickets
Oppy = 20 million tickets
Sing did have 3D, which probably boosted it a few million. Oppenheimer is definitely getting a big Imax boost, but I’m not sure if it’s THAT high. Though with these record numbers, it could be I suppose. I know Deadline reported that average $13 ticket price, but as with anything from that site I remain pretty skeptical. If Charlie or someone said it, I’d be more inclined to believe.-
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2 hours ago, cannastop said:
Inside the ‘Oppenheimer’ Imax 70mm Craze: Fans Crossing State Lines, the Search for New Projectors and More
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/oppenheimer-imax-70mm-craze-projectors-1235697085/
Ah, I just posted this in the weekdays thread lol. Extremely impressive. Between Oppenheimer’s wild success, the new Imax film cameras coming out, and the CEO expressing interest in pushing 70mm more, hopefully this can bring a bit of a renaissance of the format out. It’s too costly and difficult to ever be as mainstream as digital Imax, but there’s definitely potential to have more.
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It is a little pointless to rush out movies like that when they already hit streaming services within three months anyway. It seems like an odd business tactic at first. And anyone who says it isn’t a factor in box office is being a bit nearsighted, it does have an impact on legs overall. Maybe a marginal one, but you can’t just assume it doesn’t factor into the picture, even if in a minor way. Everything is a factor at some level.
I get the idea that POVD might be, in a way, studios “answer” to dollar theaters these days. More or less a thing of the past (maybe there are still a few around, most started dwindling out in the early 2010s after the mass switch to digital)
Movies used to could make a significant chunk of change in that secondary release, many a films were pushed over the arbitrary “$50m, 100m, 150m, etc” marks through those. $20 on demand isn’t necessarily the same steal as a $1-2 ticket but for a family or group of teens looking for a cheapish movie night, it’s a solid get.