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Wow following this thread on mobile is not easy!Anyway it seems to me the holdovers are doing ok even for Olympic opening day.IA4 -40.8%Ted -32.2%TASM -44.9%Brave -36.2%Pretty normal IMO. TDKR was affected for sure by the shooting And opening ceremony, but it looks to me like it's more front loaded than initially believed.I'm simply suggesting that a 76% drop by itself is meaningless. We always knew it was going to drop big because of the midnight take. The problem here is that we're used to having finite circumstances by which to qualify these kinds of drops -- but that isn't the case this time.Between the other films dropping hard last weekend, their apparent failure to recover this weekend, the Olympics beginning, and the national backlash of moviegoers as evidenced in NRG's tracking -- you have to admit, there's some strong evidence there.If WOM is the primary factor affecting TDKR, why is almost every other film in the market now struggling too?
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18M is from WB itself, so it is more reliable.......But I won't be surprised if actuals go down.......
Thanks for the info!Rth is the most accurate source we have, he may be off, but never by more than a few percentage points.
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Quick question guys:Official FRI est on
#TDKR $18.05M, hard 76% fall. Heading to about $58M wknd, $283M 10day. Maybe $425M dom final.https://twitter.com/...214237828980737
So RTH, who is pretty reliable, earlier gave a range of 17.2 to 17.6 and looks like other reliable sources say 18. Which is more accurate? ERC because they gave a later estimate or RTH just because of past estimates?
Also, looks like the Olympics Opening Ceremony did better than 2008.
Rating's of Opening Ceremony up 23% household share, up7% and the western cities like SD and Denver had higher share than urban averages. Guess it had a bigger impact than some people thought.
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Fish Called Wanda is one of my all time favorites from the 80's. Too bad we can't include the other classics like Monty Python and the Holy Grail or Blazing Saddles both from the 70's but timeless IMO.And one other movie came to mind that I think wasn't listedWillow. I know many didn't like it and it didn't do too well in the BO, but I thought it was a great fantasy movie.Loved Fish Called Wanda because it played on my love of Monty Python. Despite the reputation the Deep South has, Georgia Public Television was awesome in the 80s. I remember Saturday nights would bring us Flying Circus, Fawlty Towers, Benny Hill and The Paul Hogan Show.
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Sounds like a solid opening for TDKR but how does TDKR rank as far as openings in the Philippines? And what's the prediction for Legacy?That's high.I say, 5.0 M - 5.5 M finish. I won't be shock though if it makes more than 6.0 M. WOM is great.THE BOURNE LEGACY opens soon. It was shot here in the Philippines. Will be huge.
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That is one ridiculous listMy Top 100 Movies from the 80's (in chronological order):AirplaneBattle Beyond the StarsThe Elephant ManThe Empire Strikes BackThe ShiningSuperman IIAn American Werewolf in LondonBody HeatClash of the TitansEscape From New YorkThe Evil DeadMad Max 2Raiders of the Lost ArkScannersTime BanditsBlade RunnerCreepshowThe Dark CrystalE.T. The Extra-TerrestrialFast Times at Ridgemont HighThe Plague DogsPoltergeistThe Secret of NimhStar Trek IIThe ThingTronThe World According to GarpThe Dead ZoneThe King of ComedyReturn of the Jedi.....Funny that critics back then moaned about how inferior those movies were compared to the ones made in the 70's. But compared to today's soulless blockbusters the 80's output looks terrific. We will never see a finer decade for popcorn movies.
Think almost all my favorite 80's movies have been named except SpaceballsHistory of the World Part 1Spies Like UsFletchDead CalmProbably have more but so many movies that I like.
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Still a little to early to tell. It should be behaving like any other movie since its only been less than a week from the Colorado tragedy.As time passes, holdovers should be trickling in the later weeks. If there were a number of people that decided to wait during the first week, it should show up in better holds later on. That's the hope anyway...let's see.
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Hmm think 5:30 gmt is 10:30am pst and 1:30 pm est. And NBC will definitely tape delay some prime events for prime time. And with the continuous bad press I wouldn't be surprised by an even softer weekend.Major events will be after 5:30pm gmt which is 10:30pm est or 7:30 pm pst
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Does anyone think that the Olympics will have any impact on the Box Office and by how much? Again, this is the kind of programming that could affect the weekend numbers, both foreign and domestic.
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Just saw the 2pm showing. A very good Batman movie. Right on par with BB IMO, but not at the TDK level. Bane exceeded my expectations as the villain, definitely menacing, but not as mesmerizing as the Joker. I have to give props to Nolan for getting better at action sequences and some were especially brutal and sucked you right in. There was utter silence in the crowd during some scenes. Also, the score definitely helped amplify the moments in the film but sometimes I felt like it was just too much.Hathaway as Selena Kyle :wub:The movie is still too long, or it just had these dead spots that I felt were unnecessary. I can see where the main criticisms of the movie is coming from.
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I'm in agreement with most people here. He's made some great movies and he's on the way to getting to that status, but he needs a longer track record and we need to know if his movies age well.
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That's a very fair argument. The trick is to do the allocations because we can't say for sure which movies were depressed more or less by the events. Of course if we had to make a max argument, then we could allocate all the missing 25M to TDKR and get a number of about 188, according to current estimates.A more accurate way would be to take a look at admissions but of course there is a very wide debate on how to do that.With the current estimates the top 10 for this weekend is looking at just under $225m. On the weekend of TDK the top 10 earned $250m. The top 10's on the weekends of Avatar, DH2, New Moon and TA were all around the $250m. Under normal circumstances the top 10 this weekend should have hit the $250m. It seems the box office this weekend took a hit of roughly around 10%
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There's a TS4? That's news...The recent announcement of TS4?
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Oops poor choice of words. Maybe: Prior to TA, if people here were to predict which movie had the best chance to break 200M OW, I would guess most would have said TDKR. And when TA broke 200M then....Only a few believed in 200M before TA opened.
Rest were just jumping on the bandwagon as TDKR neared its release.
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Just my 2 cents: TDK and TDKR (have not seen yet) are supposed to be more gritty and harsh movies. And while Nolan is masterful at making movies with such an atmosphere, it's not a movie that some in the GA would put on their to watch list despite any WOM. It was still going to be the mega-blockbuster because it was the last of the trilogy and the most hyped summer movie of 2012. But when the reviews started coming in, the first thing that came to mind was this movie is not to the level of TDKR. Also, with all the other stuff going on in the world. the drought, Syria, debt crisis, etc.. I think people want something more uplifting now or at least an escape, and are tired of feeling down. And now with the tragedy in Colorado...One problem TDKR will have is that it's really bleak film. It is in no way the escapist, Rocky-esque antidote to this incident that people thought it might be.
I'm guessing that was the general feeling around here. I'm still pretty new here but I think that most people predicted that if any movie was to break the 200M barrier first it was supposed TDKR and when TA came out, TDKR would easily follow.I think another mistake we made is this...We thought if a film like TA could set the record, a film like TDKR was going to own it as its Batman!
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Just was trying to catch up on part of this thread while watching the news. Emotions are really running high right now everywhere. I'm truly saddened from what happened in Colorado and thoughts and prayers go to everyone affected by this tragedy.I have friends who live in Denver and while I know they most likely wouldn't go to a midnight premier, made me want to make sure everything is ok.
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Battle Beyond the Stars. That's a title I haven't heard in a long time..I think I'm gonna have to watch it again and yes it was incredibly cheesy. I always remember snippets from that movie being used in even worse sci-fi movies.You mentioned it - "Ice Pirates" is a spoof, and not a bad one in my books. Doesn't belong here, because it's good comedy.
However, the mention of "Ice Pirates" made me fondly remember "Battle Beyond the Stars" - the big-titted spaceship, the immense Sybil Danning (and she's Austrian too!), Robert Vaughn ... there's so much fun in there and yet it's such an unbelievably cheesy take on the "7 Samurai"-theme. Incredible.
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Haha yeah I like to lurk in that thread. Very interesting reading. TDKR is gonna be massive this weekend regardless of anyone's opinion..Anyway very happy with the actuals, looks like everything went up from estimates so far. Nice! Sad that this may be the last weekend that The Avengers grossed 1M+ but oh well...all good things come to an end.they are all in the TDKR thread, lol
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Several movies come into mind: Hercules (1983) with Lou Ferrigno - He throws a bear into space and it becomes Ursa Major! You can't not laugh at that..Ice Pirates - Space comedy at its bestLake Placid
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Noooooo!!! Leave this alone :)I'd remake Blade or Punisher.Tremors
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Heh well it looks like multiple news groups are saying the same thing but mostly citing other reports.I thought SJ was great in The Avengers but not enough to pay her 20. Going off topic a bit. What do you think should be her salary for the sequel? Or the other cast members? I would say 12.5 for SJ off the top of my head.Ok we can lock this thread now
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Well they will all probably get a nice bump in salary but $20M. You would have to wonder what Evans and Hemsworth would be asking for if she got that...probably percentages of the gross like RDJ??Not when the movie has made almost 1.5 Billion dollars.. She was great in the movie.. She's worth every penny you pay her along with a fat pay increase for the rest of the Cast and Joss Whedon..
Haha yeah and the article says that the rest of the cast would get 50 percent pay raises!! Didn't RDJ reportedly make $50M from Avengers?I couldn't remember who posted it first. That was you! So it originally came from the Sun, picked up by NY pub, and then quoted by Huffington Post. Crazy.
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Heh I posted the same thing in the main Avengers thread. Looks like the original story is from The Sun in the UK. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4415563/Scarlett-Johansson-is-best-paid-actress-as-she-pockets-13million-to-star-in-Avengers-2.htmlThis was picked up by the NY Post both owned by News Corp by the way..And I guess this was posted on Huffington..which is definitely not owned by News Corp. Either way people said that The Sun was crap as far as a reliable source. Anyway 20M is way too extreme.
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Saw this last week and I'd give it a B+/B.Solid movie. Not as good as Up (all time fav) and Finding Nemo but still a good Pixar movie. I thought the pacing was a bit slow for the first 30 min or so but really picked up afterwords. And I mean everything..intensity, comedy, emotion. Especially after her mom turns into a bear. Animation is beautiful as expected from a Pixar movie. I'd give the score an A+. Loved the music. Definitely Oscar worthy.
Think almost all my favorite 80's movies have been named except SpaceballsHistory of the World Part 1Spies Like UsFletchDead CalmProbably have more but so many movies that I like.
Favorite 80s films... for the old-timers
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