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  1. If you want to make something new, why would you go for a franchise that is 41 years old at this point? Make something completely new. Putting “Star Wars” on the poster is already tying you to a bunch of existing stuff. Just leave old films alone and make something new. I personally didn’t think Avatar was that great, but at least it was a new thing when it came out, it wasn’t Cameron trying to connect it to the Alien franchise or anything like that.
  2. The actual original Star Wars films are all good. The prequels weren’t. The newer films are just fan fiction. Some of it quite good (Rogue One), but mostly not. But I think most franchises should take a break, or rather just stop. Terminator and Terminator 2 are good films. That doesn’t mean we have to, or even want to, get new Terminator films (or tv-shows) every few years.
  3. TLJ wasn’t all of it. Of the new films, I thought Rogue One was good, TFA was a mediocre rehash but had interesting characters and that made a sequel made by someone else look interesting. Then I saw TLJ and didn’t like it as a film in its own right, nor did I think it opened things up for interesting things in the future. Ended up finally seeing Solo and thought it was kind of humdrum, and a film with no reason to exist. So the other films were mediocre but made me hope for improvement. TLJ killed that hope for me, and at least a couple of my friends. None of us (In the group of seven I talked about earlier) are reddit warriors either. I don’t often discuss TLJ or any of the new films online, because doing so seldom leads to anything good. We’re just ordinary moviegoers (ok I’m a lifelong Star Wars fan that read bookshelves of novels, played computer games, etc, but the others aren’t) who pretty quietly decided we didn’t like the new direction and it pretty much soured us on new Star Wars stuff in general (although one guy has been brought back by the Mandalorian). Since everyone else is doing them, I’ll do my rankings, but I’ll do them by tier like that guy earlier in the thread (order in tier simply by release dates). A tier: A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. B tier: Rogue One. C tier: Revenge of the Sith, The Force Awakens, Solo. D tier: The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, The Last Jedi.
  4. Out of seven people, at least three said TLJ killed their interest in TROS. Sure, anecdotal evidence, but I really don’t think we were an enormous outlier.
  5. Two years ago there were seven of us who walked into a first weekend showing of The Last Jedi. A few days ago one of those seven messages four others (two of the group had fallen off due to breakups and such) to ask if we wanted to catch a midnight showing of The Rise of Skywalker. Everyone said no. Two (one of them me) said TLJ had soured them on Star Wars and they weren’t interested in seeing TROS at all. One said TLJ had soured him too but The Mandalorian has brought him back around to willing to give TROS a chance, but he was busy with Christmas stuff at least until next weekend. As far as I know no one in our group has seen the film yet. And this is a mix of die-hard fans and pretty casual viewers. Saying that TLJ didn’t dampen enthusiasm for more Star Wars seems obviously untrue to me. Maybe the film itself is crap, but I think reaction to TLJ would be having a bigger effect now than reviews or word of mouth (which will become more important as time goes by).
  6. Just got back from I, Tonya. That was a hilarious film. If you haven't seen it, go. Seriously. Best film I've seen in theaters in a while.
  7. Amazon took a while to start making a profit too. So I'd give Spotify some more time, they're clearly still expanding. As for people choosing older films over newer ones. The solution is simple: Make better movies. Okay, really the solution is to learn to live with how scarcity has changed. Twenty years ago, there was actual scarcity with home video. I remember renting Conan The Barbarian, discovering it was broken when I opened the case, and going back to the video rental place with it. The guy was upset, because that was, according to him, the only copy of Conan The Barbarian available for rental in the northern half of Sweden. In the 90s, that was a legit concept. Today, it is ludicrous. And movie studios can't stop this. All they can do is adapt, and present a better service than torrenting a film. Which a legit streaming service, with a good search interface, language and subtitle options etc, is. Because it is more convenient. And convenience is often more important than cost (otherwise there wouldn't be any pizza delivery places).
  8. The latter. Which is why I think 50 years (just 50 years, no waiting for the author to die) is a more sellable compromise. Waiting for the author's death seems like it has the potential to extend copyright enormously if we figure out a way to stop the whole dying of old age thing.
  9. Yes, this was my point, that there's a huge difference between infringing the copyright of something that came out a few months ago and infringing the copyright of say Steamboat Willie. Personally I think 50 years would be a decent compromise (my own stance is more like 25 years being reasonable), usually covering all or most of the lives of the principals involved. Which would mean that Planet of the Apes would become public domain this year.
  10. Copyright is an important concept, but it was never meant to last forever. It is supposed to last for a reasonable amount of time so that creators can see a profit from their works, and then the work is supposed to go into the public domain so that the public can benefit. Personally, I think that copyright lasts way too long currently. You may disagree with this, but even if you do, unless you think that copyright should be perpetual, all we're doing is disagreeing on how far back we can go before it is alright to reproduce something once created by someone and usually published by a company.
  11. Then they should maybe make an effort to make it easier to see their older stuff. I was at my dad's over Christmas and decided to watch Romancing the Stone, which he's got on disc, while waiting for the train back home. So the next day I feel like watching the sequel Jewel of the Nile (those were two of my favorite films growing up). Not available for rent on my platform, not on Netflix Sweden, not on HBO, looked at a few other streaming sites but couldn't find it. That would have been a rental right there, if it had been available to me. Instead we get bullshit region restrictions, five million different streaming services that all have an extremely limited back catalog etc. Nobody talks about pirating music anymore, not since Spotify made legally listening to the music you want simple and hassle-free. Convenience is king. Yet film studios seem intent on destroying the simplicity of streaming with everyone wanting to set up their own services that you need separate accounts for, lots of regional restrictions etc. The studios are their own worst enemies in this fight.
  12. Look, I pay for films. I go to the theater often enough (comapred to my peers anyway, not so much compared to some people on here), I buy some films on disc, I have Netflix and HBO subscriptions and a TV service that lets me rent films directly through the STB. And for new films I get it. Even going back ten, twenty, maybe thirty years. But who am I screwing over if I should decide to watch the 1968 Planet of the Apes, a fifty year old film, without paying for it? The director? He's dead. The writers? Dead, both of the film and the original novel. The producer? Dead. The actors? Most of them are dead and the ones who are still alive are almost certainly not getting a cut of the home media sales. Anyone who could be considered an author of the work is dead.
  13. I wonder if this is why the Swedish cinemas don't want to publish the tickets sold anymore too. I might need to look further into it.
  14. The Swedish film institute has numbers down to the last ticket up through 2016 for Swedish cinemas (from then on the cinema owners association decided to not give them access to the stats any longer, which is crap for me). So it can be done, but if the records don't exist, or are too decentralized, it won't happen.
  15. So, I posted on the forums again today. My last post before that was apparently in September 2014. I don’t think too many people will remember me, considering my rather low post count, but I’m back anyway. Hopefully won’t have another 3,5 year gap to my next post anyway.
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