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Exactly. Theres a contingent of people that have been brain washed to label everything led by women and minorities as woke. It’s basically part of the “4-Channing” of popular culture where people abandon critical thought and give in to ridiculous emotion. It’s a part of the rise of anti-intellectualism that’s become the norm due to our “leaders” preferring to gain support by blatant lies (the dishonesty in political discourse nowadays is pretty troubling to be honest). I still recall the noise over Captain Marvel and how “feminist” it was but upon watching the movie, i was surprised at how much the film makers consciously moved away from such themes. Same with Black Panther where some people said it was all about racism when that wasn’t even the main theme of the movie. It’s so ridiculous because a movie like Joker was far more explicitly political and even “woke” than Captain Marvel but the alt-right adjacent dude bros didn’t complain because it’s lead is a straight white man (I mean, the movie basically criticized the country’s health care system, treatment of the mentally and the poor). There are works where the main theme is social political in nature but not every minority led or female led work is woke. That’s just innate bigotry/bias at work. BoP isn’t doing very well because 1) it’s rated-R, Harley isn’t that popular of a character to risk a big budget R-rated movie 2) it’s marketing campaign made it look like garbage, honestly, I had zero interest in the movie after seeing the trailers. I was surprised it got such good reviews but at that point, I’d already decided not to see it at all.

I dont follow box office much again but how does TROS miss a billion if its already at $724 million this week?

Rose got the Jar Jar treatment. Between Luke catching the lightsaber and telling Rey to handle it with care, to Kylo rebuilding his helmet very early in the movie to Rey's parentage, this movie was a "dick kick" to TLJ.

Funny enough, I really enjoyed TROS. Maybe because I heard so many negative things but going in I expected something much worse but i really enjoyed this. I don't know, I think reaction to this movie is going to be all over the place.

Agreed. He even upgraded the connection to flat out teleportation (although that was hinted at in the TLJ with the drops of water). Luke is still dead but Abrams retconned a quest into Luke's life.

IF you loved the previous two, only you can answer that question This is is ultimately subjective and up to each individual but TROS feels very much like Abrams shoving aside TLJ and just doing his own thing.

The movie was bonkers but I actually really enjoyed it. I've been very sceptical but it's not all the dumpster fire its made out to be. Granted Palpatine's return was fucking stupid. The first 10 minutes of the movie (including opening crawl) was basically an entire movie of it's own. One thing though, this movie is VERY much a sequel to the Force Awakens from the cast to the character dynamics. I cant speak about anyone else but it seems Abrams flat out hated TLJ. I'll probably see it again but honestly I felt it was far more enjoyable than TLJ and Abrams went out of his way to make a crowd pleaser here. If you hated TLJ, this was made for you, if you liked TLJ, you will find this movie offensive.

Lololol...so much for the angry fanboy boycott... Even if estimates come in and at $40m+, it's still massive.

Honestly, I'm not even mad at Rian Johnson, I'm mad at Disney for rushing out a new trilogy without a concrete framework in mind. Years after and I'm still trying to understand the rationale behind turning Luke into a bum and then killing him off. I would argue his presence was absolutely necessary considering the mythology. It's ridiculous to talk about the Rise of Skywalker when all of them are dead. It literally made no sense and now there is unnecessary blow back from the walking back of TLJ.

That doesn't make sense because TLJ was very focused on Rey and she already had a lot to do. What Ridley said was that she would have preferred the central cast spend more time together. Boyega has been vocal about that recently and he has a point. TLJ pretty much split them up and focused squarely on Rey and Kylo. The ST trio haven't really spent much time together , something JJ has apparently gone out of his way to correct.

So the leaks appear to be true. Interesting. I’m surprised that Abrams and co had to walk back so much of TLJ. But again, it’s not surprising considering the franchise didn’t have anywhere to go after TLJ. Also, considering Kylo’s and Rey origins, can they be considered related? We shouldn’t forget that the Emperor basically “created” Anakin and is also Rey’s grandfather (which could have been a very, very interesting plot line if it was introduced in the second chapter of trilogy), so Kylo and Rey are step-cousins or something. At least from that perspective, her taking the Skywalker name isn’t too bad.😜😗

That's something that always confused me. Force sensitive people across the universe had always been a staple of Star Wars, TLJ didn't introduce this (I thought broom boy was simply meant to be part of a new franchise). TLJ spent about two hours of its run time deconstructing the Jedi and their role in the galaxy but didn't ultimately commit this (Luke saying he will not be the last Jedi pretty much undermines virtually everything he said and did in the movid). Overall, TLJ (for me at least) closed some threads that JJ and co need to re-open for TROS to have a thematic "hook" to bring people back for the finale. The end of the Skywalker saga doesn't mean anything since Luke is dead and Kylo has disavowed his family ties (except for Vader obviously). Rey's parentage was "explained" and the driving force behind the first order and the take down of the Republic is also dead (Snoke).

I haven’t seen read any detailed leaks but I heard that Chewie, Leia, Lando and the droids all die in the Millenium Falcon. That sounds like bullshit though. And what becomes of the Jedi order? Luke said quite clearly that he won’t be the Last Jedi in the Last Jedi.

I've actually seen the movie and to some extent I agree with Grace. The movie has some serious problems and some acts and depictions of violence kind of make no sense. Like at all.

Avengers Endgame is already over $700m+ dom and will tap out around $850m. The "its crumbling" talk doesn't really track because its already fucking huge (especially since it's essentially a pre-summer movie). The movie could end up being the highest grossing movie of all time WW unadjusted. That's pretty much the end of the story.