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Water Bottle

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  1. 5 hours ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

    597 to 'around 300'. I guess if you see a nearly 50% drop as 'solid', personally I'd say those numbers prove my initial speculations correct, so thank you, and I do appreciate you sharing those numbers. 

     

    I'll stick around to see how the Avatar 2 thread ticks along I suppose, unless it gets nuked (or if the site continues its decline maybe it'll just shutter - I hope not). 

     

    And again, I don't 'seem to think' people are 'fleeing' the site, seems plain as day to me, and you (based on your own numbers), that they are. It's a real shame. 

     

    Yes solid considering the circumstances. This is a box office/movie forum. There is less theatrical movie news and no box office. If you really think we wouldn't have lost a lot of members and activity over that, then I think you have confused why a large portion of the community did come to this site for: to discuss how their movies are doing and how future movies will do. I can tell you right now that over the years, activity on this site has gone up when the box office is doing really well and tapered when the box office is slow. There is a direct correlation with how movies are doing and the activity on this site. I've attached a chart of total posts over time so you can see what I mean: we peak when the box office peaks, we are very weak when the box office is weak. So 50% loss of activity with no box office? Yeah, solid. 

     

    4 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

    What about activity of those members? Correct me if I'm wrong @JamesCameronScholar but it seems like you were pointing out the total activity/posts happening, rather than the unique people who made a single or more 'impression' (potentially not even posting!). I know I'll appear the same this month as I did last year using these metrics, but the reality is I was far more active last year.

     

    I sincerely hope Avatar 2, with other big tentpoles, can help bring people back to theaters and bring the box office back. 

     

    January 2020 posts: 14,778

    February 2020 posts: 15,554 (posts went up despite the fanboy thread being closed at the START of February)

    March 2020 posts: 16,278 

    May 2020 posts: 10,773-here you see a drop-off. I'm guessing COVID/theaters closing drove posting in March since it was so new. But as movie news slowed down and with no box office...

    June 2020 posts: 8,155

    July 2020: 7,149

    August 2020: 7,864

    September 2020: 7,516

    October 2020: 7,452

     

    So with half the members we are making...about half the posts. Which is what you'd expect. 

     

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  2. I imagine a lot of the friendly faces you are missing did indeed leave after we cracked down on trolling. We are perfectly fine with a community that is smaller but better to be in than a community that is larger but toxic.

     

    But I know you like your data so I'm going to share some with you. We can actually track community activity. The site lists this as "The total number of members who submitted new content, followed something, or reacted to something on the community in the specified time period."

     

    Our data for February 2020: 578 (down from 593 in 2019...not a significant amount). The fanboy thread was locked down at the start of February and we did not seem to lose any real activity during February.

    Our data for March 2020 when the lockdowns started: 473

    And we've been around 300 until Tenet came out when it went back up slightly to 355 (and 367 in September) then it went back down to around 300. Oddly enough our activity lulls are usually in September!

    What do we see here? We lost about 200 members around the lockdown. We gained a little bit when there was box office then it went back down.

     

    So two things:

    1) One people actually did come here to discuss box office numbers especially during blockbuster seasons.

    2) Yes there are movies in the pipeline but news is slow on that front due to COVID and there isn't as much to discuss. 

     

    300 member activity is actually pretty solid for us. 

     

    Of course, since you seem to think people are fleeing our site to other sites, you are free to go ahead and stop posting here and start posting at these sites with less moderation. Have a good day JCS.

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  3. On 4/29/2016 at 7:22 AM, Goffe said:

    Risky would be killing one of the major players (they didn't even the balls to kill War Machine), risky would be one of the sides actually breaking with the whole moral conflict, risky would breaking the Marvel mold of doing movies.

     

    AoU took that risk and because of that we don't see Quicksilver joining Team Iron Man leading to a literal fight between a brother and sister in the airport battle. I'd say War Machine becoming paralyzed and needing Stark's technology only opens more avenues for the character for future entries and is smart.

     

    If "risky" is only defined as killing off major players, you are right Civil War isn't risky. Which is probably a good thing.

  4. I definitely encourage you to do more of these! And not just negative reviews but also of movies you like! I'm also hoping Suicide Squad is better than this mess (can't be that hard). I also think it would be interesting to get your thoughts when Civil War comes out!

     

    Anyways, I was thinking about this and I realized something. It isn't just Supergirl/The Flash cross-over (as well as the Flash/Arrow cross-overs which also have a contrast between a light hero and a far darker hero) who did it a lot better. It was Daredevil. People pointed out that Daredevil S1 was what S1 Gotham wanted to be. I'd dare say that despite it's flaws, Daredevil S2 is exactly what BvS wanted to be.

     

     

    Spoilers for Daredevil S2:

     

    Daredevil isn't a light character but he does have a belief that every soul should be saved, because even a bad person should have a shot at redemption. Then you have the Punisher who believes you can only solve crime through killing or Elektra who kinda just didn't care about human life. Daredevil not only fought Punisher but worked at redeeming him (with limited to no success but he at least tried) and redeeming Elektra (where he was slightly more successful). It's basically the conflict of BvS twice over but it works in Daredevil because it's built around the actual characters, Daredevil doesn't just mope around, and it's dark but still fun to watch.

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  5. Anyway, now we're all caught up with the side tangents, back to the main plot. Lex kidnaps Martha Kent and Lois so he can lure Superman out of hiding and use Martha Kent as a way to manipulate him into... Waitwaitwaitwaitwait, LEX KNOWS SUPERMAN'S SECRET IDENTITY?! What? When? How? Why? We never get any kind of explanation or foreshadowing towards this! Lex just knows who Superman is all of a sudden with no rhyme or reason. Did he know at the party? Did he know before the film even started? Did Clark drunk tweet it or something? Lex also apparently knows who Batman is as well with equally no explanation. How did he find this stuff out? Did he just read the script? If he knew this stuff all along, why hasn't it been foreshadowed in the slightest? Surely you could've added some kind of interesting interaction between Clark, Bruce and Lex at the party if he apparently knew who they were this whole time. Also, if Lex can find out who Superman is, how come Batman seems to have no clue? The guy's supposed to have been investigating Superman since he turned up. I doubt the 'World's Greatest Detective' would miss something that this floppy-haired goon picked up. Ugh, and I've barely even gotten started with this thing.

     

    I think he found out when he went to the alien ship and was "tell me all you know about all the knowledge you've gathered from hundreds of planets." I mean Clark Kent's identity. No idea how he found out that Bruce Wayne was Batman but.....Bruce Wayne did keep the Bat signal at the destroyed Wayne Manor so (that's where it was, right? or was it a warehouse?).....so....

     

     Eisenberg's Luthor is unpredictable but not because he's going to shove a pencil through anyone's eye.

     

    He's unpredictable because you never know when he's going to shove a jolly rancher in your mouth!

     

    By the way there was a missed chance for adding tension to the Batman vs. Superman fight since they went with that route. That is the tried-and-true approach of cutting to the literal clock that's running down. Imagine you're watching Superman lose the fight because Superman's an idiot, cutting to the time running out for Martha, back to fight, and such. But no. We see the villains setting up the clock. Next time we see that clock? the fight is over and Batman's beating the asses of the mercenaries. So freakin' dumb. 

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  6. On 1/1/2016 at 1:32 PM, WrathOfHan said:

    Dustin Hoffman is a minor star? What are you smoking WB? :lol: 

     

    If you have a BOM page and a RT page, I calculate the star power. If you get a 1.00 or above, you get put in Major Star. If you get a 1.00 or below, you get put in Minor Star.

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