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    Flop Weekend Thread: Top 5 Weekend Actuals - TSLOP2 $46.65M | Dark Phoenix $32.83M | Aladdin $24.68M | Godzilla KOTM $15.45M | Rocketman $13.82M

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    The early June release date sucks. Everyone is spent after May/Memorial Day, it's finals/graduation/nice weather season.

    Nowadays is so different than the 80s and 90s. W/ exception of Christmas, biggest openings happen when people are in the middle of life routine and want a break. Millennials LOVE their travel making most weekends poor choices. 

    Wonder Woman 1984 needs to move and get ahead of BLACK WIDOW if it wants to be the mega blockbuster it can be. The June 5th date sucks.

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    Wonder Woman 1984 | Dec 16 2020 OS | Dec 25 2020 US and on HBO MAX

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    2 hours ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

    I know right, the post Memorial Day weekend/first week of June bought us flops like:

    Finding Nemo 16 years ago 

    Harry Potter and The Prisoner Of Azkaban 15 years ago

    Kung Fu Panda

    Up

    Snow White and The Huntsman

    San Andreas

    Maleficent

    Wonder Woman

    *WW1984 should be MUCH bigger than the bold.

     

    Solidify her as a mega character by giving her the premier summer opening day. Also, I think it is VERY important that she beat Black Widow to the punch.

     

    Do NOT open this movie just 5 weeks after Black Widow, would be a bug mistake. 

    2020 Box office discussion

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    15 minutes ago, Alli said:

    Why would WW2 move> It performed beautifully in this same spot two tears ago. The release date is perfect

    The summer opening spot is obviously better than early June when final exams and other things come into play. On a bigger level, someone needs to show Disney they won't have unchallenged control over the release date schedule. Wonder Woman 2 opening a month after Black Widow would not do Wonder Woman any favors.

     

    Only way to reach Wonder Womans potential - move the release date up. Undercut Disney and establish some dominance

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    Release Date Discussion

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    This is a huge but underrated aspect of a films release strategy and one that Disney has an absolute monopoly on in 2019. Historically, certain weeks have faired quite well while others have struggled mightily. 

     

    Mid March, 1st weekend of May,  Memorial day, July 4th, mid/late July, mid December are the prime real estate. Pretty amazing Disney secured Captain Marvel, End Game, Aladdin, Spider-man, The Lion King, and Star Wars on each date all in 1 year. It puts their competitors at a tremendous disadvantage where they will almost constantly be playing second fiddle.

     

    The 'Isolation' factor in which a potential blockbuster opens in a dead market seems to be one of the key ingredient for the massive performance of recent breakouts like IT and Black Panther.  In todays market, opening after only 1 or 2 slow weekends seems to qualify as an isolated opening. 

     

    Warner Brothers is likely Disneys biggest competitor and their vastly inferior release strategy is no about a key reason for their 2019 struggles. Having been scared off by the key dates, their big films have all been forced to open shortly after a rival tentpole has stolen all the buzz. Shazam was lost in the mix of hype between Captain Marvel and End Game, Pikachu was lost in the End Game explosion, and now Godzilla has fallen victim to the much better than expected Aladdin word of mouth. Any remote success now hinges as on IT 2 and Joker as the rest of their slate looks terrible. 2019 will likely go down as one of the worst years in Warner Brothers history.

     

    Looking forward, Disney has tried to continue its stranglehold on the release schedule by scheduling untitled Marvel, Star Wars, and Avatar films years in advance. Some studio is going to have to go head to head with them if they want to avoid playing second fiddle. 

     

    Most obvious opportunity seems to be next summer where Untitled Marvel Movie is slated to lead off the summer on May 1st, largely expected to be Black Widow. WB would be insane to not bump Wonder Woman 1984 up to either this weekend or the preceding weekend of April 24th. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Weekend Thread: Weekend Actuals - Godzilla KOTM $47.77M | Aladdin $42.84M | Rocketman $25.72M | MA $18.09M

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    8 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

    That's the same release date which has seen multiple movies have huge BO, many potter films, New Moon, Catching Fire etc. Justice League and Fantastic beasts were not good enough to make bank. Release date is not the problem.

     

    IT broke out Yuge in September. We have had breakouts almost every month. So release date is not a problem unless you are releasing around a uber event like endgame.

    Twilight would have exploded anywhere

     

    8 hours ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

    I blame WB for atrocious release strategy. You need to take care of your resources, absolutely ridiculous.

    Yes

    9 hours ago, CoolEric258 said:

    New Moon, Deathly Hallows 1, Breaking Dawn 1, and Breaking Dawn 2. Boom!

    Twilight and legit Potter aren't fair comparisons and you don't know how much better they may have done in summer

    9 hours ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:

    That's more to do with the quality of the films being released there than anything. You put a film people want to actually see on that date like WW84 or Aquaman 2 it'll do well.

    thats only part of the equation though. Shazam was good 

    Weekend Thread: Weekend Actuals - Godzilla KOTM $47.77M | Aladdin $42.84M | Rocketman $25.72M | MA $18.09M

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    Disney has basically a monopoly on the strong release dates and thats really hurting others studios. That they continue to crank quality films and aren't shooting themselves in the foot is really hurting others too.

     

    WB is really getting screwed with the release dates. They're settling for all the garbage dates behind Disney. Justice League and both Fantastic Beats were severely hurt by the hideous November opening, the post memorial day one is no different.

     

     

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