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  1. I absolutely agree. Nowadays people don't "go to the cinema just to go to the cinema". Including me. Film that I watched at cinema in 2009: 4 each month. Film that I watched at cinema in 2019: 4 each year (AE - Joker - F2 + SW9 in december). My most anticipated this year: Stranger Things 3
  2. F1 REAL F2 EST/REAL ADM (K) USD (K) ADM (K) USD (K) TOT 1.273 15.015 1.843 22.582 FRI 244 2.170 227 2.782 SAT 290 3.619 600 7.346 SUN 319 3.941 626 7.669 MON 99 1.243 145 1.781 TUE 107 1.348 91 1.120 WED 214 2.694 154 1.883
  3. "The theater I'm going to is giving Frozen 2 13 showtimes on a freaking average work/school day." I agree, but I have see my UCI had 5 (w/t/f) and 7(s/s) showtimes in presale until Sun 24 while today are 12 for all five days, maybe distributor have request for more space. In any case I don't see many tickets sold. "Beauty and the Beast had an opening thursday of 845K, on its way to a 6.9M 4-day opening. Considering F2 should have a similar anticipation..." Working in business involved (not directly in cinema industry), I can say anticipation for F2 (in term of estimates for merchandise sales) is 10x BatB (and way bigger than TLK). For example Frozen 1 DVD is still in weekly top ten after 5 years (see below). Toy stores are on fire. Frozen items are everywhere. It is the atomic bomb of marketing. However I dont' know how this can impact on ticket sales, if will open at 5, 10 or 20, because I follow cinema boxoffice only for fun. Top Ten 11/17.11sett. 46/2019 Classifica titoli aggregati. Fonte: GfK. 1Spider-Man - Far from Home 2Avengers - Endgame 3Toy Story 4 4Aladdin - Live Action 5Frozen - Il Regno di Ghiaccio 6Harry Potter collezione completa 7The Walking dead - stagione 9 8Bohemian Rhapsody 9Il Re Leone 10X-Men - Dark Phoenix
  4. Multipliers Week 1 mimorin vs adm x1,385 mimorin vs Yen x1850 mimorin vs $$ x17
  5. F1 REAL F2 EST/REAL ADM (K) USD (K) ADM (K) USD (K) TOT 1059 12.321 1689,7 20.699 FRI 244 2.170 227 2.782 SAT 290 3.619 600 7.346 SUN 319 3.941 626 7.669 MON 99 1.243 145 1.781 TUE 107 1.348 91 1.120 WED 214 2.694 THR 133 1.675 FRI 339 4.312 SAT 335 4.242 SUN 359 4.288
  6. Is This real? Rank Title Gross(M) Cume Gross(M) Per Screen Avg. Per Ticket Avg. Showings Admissions Days 1 Frozen 2 $5.07 $59.41 $36.88 $5.39 137482 940302 4
  7. Date Rank Gross % Change Theaters Per Theater Total Gross Days Nov 22, 2019 1 $42,205,262 4,440 $9,506 $42,205,262 1 Nov 23, 2019 1 $50,041,031 +19% 4,440 $11,271 $92,246,293 2 Nov 24, 2019 1 $38,017,065 -24% 4,440 $8,562 $130,263,358 3
  8. Frozen II (2019) Theatrical Performance Domestic Box Office $130,263,358 Details International Box Office $228,200,000 Details Worldwide Box Office $358,463,358
  9. France actuals in BOM page. UK from uk thread. Europe, Middle East, and Africa Market Release Date Opening Gross Croatia Nov 21, 2019 $348,471 $348,471 France Nov 20, 2019 $15,272,729 $15,272,729 Hungary Nov 21, 2019 $775,907 $775,907 Iceland Nov 22, 2019 $129,811 $129,811 Slovenia Nov 21, 2019 $224,605 $231,224 Turkey Nov 20, 2019 $1,317,785 $2,222,587 Asia Pacific Market Release Date Opening Gross South Korea Nov 21, 2019 $28,110,078 $32,321,431 Vietnam Nov 20, 2019 $1,226,089 $1,473,666 China Market Release Date Opening Gross China Nov 21, 2019 $52,878,479 $53,034,649
  10. In cinemas I agree. Out of cinemas (in term of merchandising sales) Frozen is the biggest cinematic (overall) brand WW follow by Minions (that are the only strong cinema brands born in 2010's). TLK and TS have been very strong at the time the original opened but now are outdated (merchandise speaking). SW is bigger only in America. Marvel and Harry Potter also are strong WW but aren't originally cinematic. Also Disney Princess brand sell a lot.
  11. China - $53.0MS. Korea - $31.5M - 32,3Japan - $18.2M U.K. - $17.8M - 19.4Germany - $14.9MFrance - $13.4M - 15.27Mexico - $9.3MIndonesia - $6.2MPhilippines - $6.1MSpain - $5.8M#Frozen2 #BoxOffice By now. BOM had actuals overseas: INTERNATIONAL (64.2%) $228,239,935 WORLDWIDE $355,239,935 DOM is still 127 but other have 130 new estimate. On friday morning sources still said 140 OS. Biggest understimation ever.
  12. My only source is Corpse from World of KJ. When he update with actuals, I update.
  13. F1 REAL F2 EST/REAL ADM (K) USD (K) ADM (K) USD (K) FRI 244 $ 2.170 232 $ 2.900 SAT 290 $ 3.619 615 $ 7.688 SUN 319 $ 3.941 642 $ 8.025 MON 99 $ 1.243 150 $ 1.875 TUE 107 $ 1.348 WED 214 $ 2.694 THR 133 $ 1.675 FRI 339 $ 4.312 SAT 335 $ 4.242 SUN 359 $ 4.288
  14. Sat 23 Nov - No Frozen 2 here - Pos. Titolo Prima Progr. Nazione Distribuzione Incasso Presenze Incasso al 23/11/2019 Presenze al 23/11/2019 1 CETTO C'E', SENZADUBBIAMENTE 21/11/2019 ITA VISION DISTRIBUTION € 769.012 108.810 € 1.390.646 203.297 2 L'UFFICIALE E LA SPIA (J'ACCUSE) 21/11/2019 FRA 01 DISTRIBUTION € 439.903 65.295 € 674.120 104.714 3 LE MANS '66 - LA GRANDE SFIDA (FORD V. FERRARI) 14/11/2019 USA 20TH CENTURY FOX ITALIA S.P.A. € 253.925 34.756 € 2.032.370 297.663 4 LE RAGAZZE DI WALL STREET (HUSTLERS) 07/11/2019 USA LUCKY RED DISTRIB. € 224.159 30.507 € 3.804.428 563.869 5 COUNTDOWN 21/11/2019 USA EAGLE PICTURES S.P.A. € 155.500 21.335 € 248.356 35.548 6 LA FAMIGLIA ADDAMS (THE ADDAMS FAMILY) 31/10/2019 USA EAGLE PICTURES S.P.A. € 121.434 18.828 € 6.014.919 943.807 7 SONO SOLO FANTASMI 14/11/2019 ITA MEDUSA FILM S.P.A. € 101.562 15.252 € 1.143.043 181.291 8 PARASITE 07/11/2019 KOR ACADEMY TWO DISTR. S.R.L. € 101.284 14.518 € 1.271.284 198.645 9 JOKER 03/10/2019 USA WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A. € 97.293 12.501 € 29.026.490 4.139.848 10 LA BELLE EPOQUE 07/11/2019 FRA I WONDER PICTURES S.R.L. € 94.504 13.790 € 1.114.676 174.929
  15. 20x is the multiplier for Yen (as for Toy Story 4 - 1.377.000.000 / 690.000). For $ see the ER.
  16. TOHO Sunday seat/saturation by version VERSION SEATS SOLD % SEATS %SOLD DUBBED 188084 98752 70,3% 52,5% SUBBED 49081 11545 18,4% 23,5% DUBBED IMAX 9516 4623 3,6% 48,6% SUBBED IMAX 14271 1976 5,3% 13,8% MAGICAL EDITION 6491 4512 2,4% 69,5% TOTAL 267443 121408 45,4% Overall saturation is 43%, bigger than Sat but there are less seats today so adm are -4%
  17. Japan is a totally different market. Evening in Sunday is weaker than Saturday ( unless the next day is holiday) so at the end could be under. In any case Corpse is also reporting about this is probably the biggest (true) single day ever there.
  18. Fri 22 Nov Pos. Titolo Prima Progr. Nazione Distribuzione Incasso Presenze Incasso al 22/11/2019 Presenze al 22/11/2019 1 CETTO C'E', SENZADUBBIAMENTE 21/11/2019 ITA VISION DISTRIBUTION € 357.011 53.603 € 618.505 94.214 2 DEPECHE MODE: SPIRITS IN THE FOREST 21/11/2019 GBR NEXO DIGITAL S.P.A. € 156.653 10.858 € 324.402 22.410 3 L'UFFICIALE E LA SPIA (J'ACCUSE) 21/11/2019 FRA 01 DISTRIBUTION € 149.778 24.588 € 233.109 39.238 4 LE MANS '66 - LA GRANDE SFIDA (FORD V. FERRARI) 14/11/2019 USA 20TH CENTURY FOX ITALIA S.P.A. € 111.879 16.308 € 1.777.894 262.819 5 LE RAGAZZE DI WALL STREET (HUSTLERS) 07/11/2019 USA LUCKY RED DISTRIB. € 95.883 14.109 € 3.579.846 533.292 6 COUNTDOWN 21/11/2019 USA EAGLE PICTURES S.P.A. € 59.743 8.869 € 92.691 14.183 7 IL GIORNO PIU' BELLO DEL MONDO 31/10/2019 ITA VISION DISTRIBUTION € 45.488 8.260 € 5.965.111 935.380 8 PARASITE 07/11/2019 KOR ACADEMY TWO DISTR. S.R.L. € 43.386 6.711 € 1.169.999 184.127 9 SONO SOLO FANTASMI 14/11/2019 ITA MEDUSA FILM S.P.A. € 38.810 6.391 € 1.041.386 166.023 10 JOKER 03/10/2019 USA WARNER BROS ITALIA S.P.A. € 38.263 5.280 € 28.929.198 4.127.347
  19. Tue 21 Nov Joker out of top ten in its 50th day in release. Almost certain things: no 30M€ and no passing AE in €. Pos. Titolo Prima Progr. Nazione Distribuzione Incasso Presenze Incasso al 21/11/2019 Presenze al 21/11/2019 1 CETTO C'E', SENZADUBBIAMENTE 21/11/2019 ITA VISION DISTRIBUTION € 257.317 39.920 € 257.317 39.920 2 DEPECHE MODE: SPIRITS IN THE FOREST 21/11/2019 GBR NEXO DIGITAL S.P.A. € 166.421 11.461 € 166.541 11.469 3 L'UFFICIALE E LA SPIA (J'ACCUSE) 21/11/2019 FRA 01 DISTRIBUTION € 82.409 14.475 € 82.409 14.475 4 LE MANS '66 - LA GRANDE SFIDA (FORD V. FERRARI) 14/11/2019 USA 20TH CENTURY FOX ITALIA S.P.A. € 73.368 11.302 € 1.665.233 246.375 5 LE RAGAZZE DI WALL STREET (HUSTLERS) 07/11/2019 USA LUCKY RED DISTRIB. € 52.600 8.422 € 3.483.392 519.083 6 COUNTDOWN 21/11/2019 USA EAGLE PICTURES S.P.A. € 32.447 5.231 € 32.447 5.231 7 IL GIORNO PIU' BELLO DEL MONDO 31/10/2019 ITA VISION DISTRIBUTION € 31.360 6.031 € 5.919.414 927.084 8 PARASITE 07/11/2019 KOR ACADEMY TWO DISTR. S.R.L. € 28.875 4.708 € 1.126.389 177.375 9 SONO SOLO FANTASMI 14/11/2019 ITA MEDUSA FILM S.P.A. € 24.757 4.394 € 1.002.107 159.548 10 LA BELLE EPOQUE 07/11/2019 FRA I WONDER PICTURES S.R.L. € 20.881 3.587 € 982.213 154.965
  20. Sunday full day same time/location Blue (50%-) 88 shows Orange (50%+) 33 shows Red (80%+) 63 shows Average saturation (assuming 25%/65%/90%) = 54% Saturday real saturation (TOHO) = 52% (predicted 59%) This is because evening/night shows were less saturated, so today I have counted the full day and it seems a bit bigger (+2%) By the way these number should be take as a trend because TOHO is the 24% of mimorin2014 Saturday admissions (109k/454K) but only the 19% (208K/1076K) of seats, that means TOHO cinemas are a bit more saturated than the others chains and the overall saturation will be lesser (52% vs 42% Saturday)
  21. Markets in which F2 isn't out yet are the 23% of F1 total.
  22. I (and Disney too) have to point that TLK 2019 isn't listed among animated movies but as "live action remake" or
  23. 59% overall means 10M+day. Too Good. This is indicative of a very big increase from friday in 9-17 frame, 3x at least. But in evening could be much less.
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