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Weekend Numbers | actuals | 15.54M GODZILLA×KONG: THE NEW EMPIRE
Mulder replied to kayumanggi's topic in Numbers and Data
Godzilla was never going to be Marvel sized because its never been that kind of franchise over here and it's bizarre to think that honestly. G-2014's novelty boost of 90 million was always going to be a one-off of perfect storms (Bryan Cranston coming high off of Breaking Bad is underdiscussed for that movie's gross). For as much as I personally think GxK's awful, the way its been performing box office wise is a success story as it is, especially with that muuuuch lower budget of 137 million. -
I feel like if I were to describe it, G-2014 is Phase 1 MCU (Or MoS & BvS if you want to go DC), K:SI and KoTM are like Phase 2 MCU (Or ZS JL DC wise), GvK is like Ant-Man & The Wasp or Thor Ragnarok Phase 3 MCU, and GxK from a lot of accounts is Phase 4 MCU. It's a consistent slide into bigger and more outlandish stuff with the tone getting sillier and sillier.
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Admittedly I'm only really curious about how GxK does from a facts perspective tbh. In my personal opinion GvK and (what I've seen and heard) GxK are pretty awful so I have no real emotional ties to how they do. For me the MV ended film wise with KoTM and since then I've only really enjoyed Monarch.
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Insane how vitriolic this is over a differing opinion. You’d think I said it was a guaranteed bomb thanks to it and not just, in MY opinion, not great. No one has to agree with me but the pages upon pages now mocking me instead of even really discussing my point is reminding me to just never post on here unless it’s “cool numbers”.
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WB's year was definitely mixed at best. Their horror stuff did really good and Barbie's the big thing saving it from being a disaster plus Wonka's ended up pretty nicely, but Flash was a 200-250 million dollar loss, Blue Beetle was a flop, Shazam 2 was a flop etc. Color Purple is now an underperformer for them too. That's ignoring their smaller films that didn't really amount to much either like House Party & Magic Mike's Last Dance.
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...No that's not how it works. Theaters get more of the profits as it goes on. Studios get most of their profits from opening weekend. Theaters like leggy films because they get more profit from them. And 300 million wouldn't be 3x its production+marketing budget, it'd be 2x. Marketing being excluded from film budgets is Hollywood financing trickery, there's a reason why the rule of thumb is to triple the production budget because that's how you account for the subtracted marketing budget.
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If the marketing amount listed above which is what I was replying to, 100, is added the budget is 300 million. Yes it's not losing as much money as flops like Flash or The Marvels but I don't think barely surviving thanks to a lack of competition, holiday legs, and China (The country which Hollywood gets the least amount of money from) is what WB's going to be looking at when they're still in the red of 100+ million with it. I think we need to be able to separate a decent performance from profitability, otherwise Dial of Destiny'd be talked about way differently.