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  1. It's not a girl flick. It's a sci fi movie but the lead star is Lu Han, former kpop star, who has a large female fan base. The die hard fans of his are supporting it but it's not really the type of movie they want to see him in. Unfortunately it's a pretty bad movie (only slightly better than an original Syfy channel movie imo) so it can't grab the sci fi fans either so that explains the frontloading.
  2. As I said, Bravest had no real buzz outside of that high rating score. It didn't tap into the same audience as Operation Red Sea or Operation Mekong and it's not as good as those movies. They made a big mistake with the director. Tony Chan is not Dante Lam. Happy to see Ne Zha doing well. I hope more Chinese animations can be successful.
  3. I agree his status has risen, but that doesn't mean his cheaper action movie days are over. Let's not forget he is the wrong side of 50, there's not many action stars that become more bankable over that age. I agree that it's no shame and I like Statham. To keep it on topic, I'd like to see him in some more Chinese co productions and get that consistency in China as a leading man that I mentioned he is lacking. They are already setting up Meg 2, so it will be interesting to see if that increases from the first.
  4. The potential Chinese release version won't be the same as the R rated version. Look at Django or Deadpool 2 for examples of R rated movies that were edited to pass Chinese censors.
  5. But all of that is because Status is not as big a star as The Rock,so he doesn't get the big budget movies or as many solo headlining movies. Unfortunately Hollywood has already decided that Status is not bankable enough to get big budget solo roles, so unless a Chinese company decides to finance one for him to tap in to this supposed big Chinese fanbase we may never get a fair comparison between him and The Rock.
  6. Unfortunately these are the only movies we have to compare them on. We don't know what Meg would have made without him or without Li Bing Bing or if it starred The Rock instead. That is all guess work. As this is a box office discussion site, based on their recent box office, The Rock has more consistency and has earned more money in solo movies in China than Statham. That is irrefutable. Based on those statistics in my opinion The Rock is a bigger box office star in China.
  7. There are so many things to unpack from this conversation. But it's an important discussion to have. I agree about the portrayal but I don't see how he can be a preachy character. All the marvel origin movies follow a simple formula, it's just going to be him using his powers for the first time and defeating a bad guy. Then overall tone needs to avoid any political messages but I'm sure Disney are going to be so soft with it, I can't even see them touching the colonialism type subject like Black Panther did. I think it's less than Black Panther outside China, but an increase on it inside China so it will even out. I think around Black Panther ww total would still be a big success for a basically unknown hero for most audiences im 2019. Well this goes back to the original discussion about the main character's heritage. At soms point Disney need to a draw a line about how far they are willing to go to satisfy this kind of criticism. Are we really going to have actors only being able to play characters who share the same blood in every movie? Luckily I still think this criticism comes from a vocal minority, especially when it comes to supporting characters. It's really a lose lose situation. If they cast someone with bigger eyes or more "western" looking, then they would get criticised for that too. That's why it's just a silly discussion road down to even go down . Let's just see how well all the actors play their parts, that's the most important thing in my eyes!
  8. I think all of these social media comments need to be taken with a pinch of salt. As the first Chinese superhero in the MCU it was always going to attract praise and criticism. When you add in nationalistic views from some people, it just creates a different angle to other casting arguments /discussions. In a way it's good that it's creating a lot of buzz in China or at least people are talking about it. The worry is that I haven't seen much talk of it outside China since the announcement. I want Shang Qi to be a world wide success, so hopefully Marvel also focus on attracting the audience outside China too. That's the most pointless criticism I've read. Whoever said that is not even worth listening to.
  9. Yes, I agree but that's why he is a B movie king. Fighting with my family is not relevant because The Rock just has a cameo in that, he produced the movie but he's not the star. I still think if we go by official box office The Rock is a bigger star in China right now. We can't base their star power of pirated movies. San Andreas, Rampage, Skyscraper, Jumanji are all real signs compared to The Mechanic Resurrection and Meg. BUT I agree Statham will help, just not a big enough impact to reach 200. Wow. This feels like Marvel's first big mis step in China since their new cinematic universe. I still don't like all these online reactions when we don't know what they are going to do with the character. They are probably trying to redefine it and empower the character for a new generation. Of course we don't know if it will hurt box office long term, these negative articles are damaging short term for a new superhero franchise. I'm really curious how Marvel will react.
  10. Yes exactly. People pirate his movies a lot, it doesn't mean they support him in the cinema. Look at Mechanic Resurrection.
  11. I'm only talking about in China. Rock is much more consistent in China than Statham and has had several more hit movies over recent years.
  12. Maybe a low chance but Statham is even less of a star than The Rock. Meg was built around the shark as the star, people weren't turning up for a Statham movie. Even then it couldn't break 200 and that had a famous Chinese co lead in Li Bing Bing. Mechanic Resurrection is a good example of his drawing power in China by himself with a similar kind of movie to Hobbs Shaw. I think he and The Rock's fanbases overlap a lot too so I don't see him bringing much extra to it.
  13. It can still do great without getting close to Zootopia, which is what my post was about.
  14. Yes, the Fast & Furious brand name will help but it still needs the movie to be good or at least likeable enough for the Fast & Furious fanbase. I think around 150 would be a good result to be happy with.
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