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  1. The first trailer was decent. This new one was terrible. Entirely devoid of the charm that made the first Shazam! a surprise treat. Now it looks like another overly dramatic grey-tinged cgi festival.

     

    I'm not saying I think it's going to be a bad movie (I'm staying hopeful) as much as I'm saying I think this marketing approach isn't the right take for this property. Unless it actually is reflective of the film, in which case... Ouch.

     

    Either way, I'd say right now I'm thinking $45m OW, $115m DOM, $300m WW. And those are respectable numbers (but not impressive enough to warrant Gunn's attention) if the $125m budget reported last summer by Rolling Stone holds up. Prior to this new trailer, I was thinking it would match the first film. Now, I don't see it. And if the rest of the marketing follows this approach, I'd go lower. I just don't see this being what fans of the first film wanted.

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  2. 2 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

    I thought Ryan cooler was doing that.

    It's more like in the leadup to Wakanda Forever, and to a bit of a less extent after, his name was tossed around a lot. But there's been little official indication. I do think it could be between Coogler and Reed though. I believe Feige will go with an in-house option, and those are really the only two credible ones left to pick from. And I don't know how "in house" Coogler really is, whereas Peyton Reed is much more engrained across Disney.

  3. 5 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

    The PiB budget reports look to be a measly $80-100m? Combine that with the dire state of animation at the box office post-pandemic, and this is a huge win. Major props to DWA for managing to keep the budget so low and not have it look like garbage. 

     

    A page from the Illumination playbook. Not surprised that they're gradually taking on the traits of their corporate sister studio.

  4. 1 hour ago, excel1 said:

    I think this will be sweet but see extremely limited commercial appeal here.

     

    "Oh yeah, lets go watch the movie about the invention of nukes!!!!"

     

    Audience hunger for such a movie may depend on the next half-year of geopolitics. Some people might just want to spend more time being a Barbie Girl in a Barbie World. But those people will be surprised when it's revealed that the secret of Barbie World is that it's a post-nuclear reality, ala Adventure Time.

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  5. 6 minutes ago, cannastop said:

    I thought Oppenheimer was going to be in black and white ngl

     

    My running theory is that everything that takes place after first nuclear test will be in black and white, everything else prior, with that moment being, in Nolan's view, the moment when the world forever changed. Just speculating.

     

    Either way, also surprised to learn there apparently was a different trailer released in non-Imax cinemas, and that's what they're going with for the official trailer. I saw the IMAX one, it's very different.

  6. 3 hours ago, LinksterAC said:

    why Tommy didn’t back up his consciousness to be used in his Avatar in the event he’s no longer able to do so himself?

    For any number of reasons that are irrelevant to the story that James Cameron wants to tell. I want to see James Cameron's story, despite it's varying quality.

  7. 1 hour ago, LinksterAC said:

     

    I’m confused by your first paragraph. What is the difference here that is relevant to the questions begged about Tommy not downloading his consciousness? I don’t feel like they provide an answer in the film.

     

    What I’m saying is that there are philosophical questions about the difference between remotely piloting an alien clone, and being dead and having your consciousness just plugged into an alien clone. I feel The Way of Water very lightly touched on these themes. Very lightly. I would like to see this plot element we are talking about become central to whatever character journey James Cameron thought was worth bringing Quaritch back for all the sequels. I did feel fleeting moments in Way of Water with “Quaritch” where the seeds were being planted.

     

     

  8. 8 minutes ago, The Dark Alfred said:

    What do people think of the HFR? It didn't work for me. Made certain scenes like a bad video game glitch.


    I liked it overall, but it definitely worked better in some parts than others.

     

    I think the more motion there was in a given shot, especially if the eyes are drawn to several different fast motions, compounded by a “camera” “moving” at it’s own pace and angle, then it was rough. And I didn’t like how the frame rate was switching shot-to-shot. Felt like a bunch of insert shots were lagging. Would have been better to make that a scene by scene decision and stick with one frame rate for a few minutes at a time. Also I’m curious if they experimented with ramping the frame rates up/down instead of just doing hard cuts.

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  9. 1 hour ago, LinksterAC said:

    Like I said, it doesn’t break the film, and you can fill in the holes with a bit of effort. 

     

    But really, the Avatars are a multi-million (billion?) dollar investment that can only work with one individual and they didn’t think it was prudent to do this as a general precaution?

     

    Sure, I can concoct reasons why Jake’s brother didn’t or couldn’t do it, but for a conceit so central to the world building and the story, I really shouldn’t have to.

     

    So, yeah, I do necessarily think it’s bad writing—though I still did end up greatly enjoying the film for many other reasons. 

     

    I agree there’s some terrible writing in this film, but not this particular plot point. I do feel like they established a difference between Jake piloting a body, still being Jake, and this clone of Quaritch who acknowledges he’s not the original. That’s part of the dynamic with his “son”. Whether or not you think it worked in the film is a different story. I though it was one of the more flawed parts of the script.

     

    I would very much for third film to have this Quaritch have an existential crisis. I feel like the right pieces were setup for that kind of story; and I think it’s the only interesting thing left to do with his character.

  10. Some random Way of Wathoughts

     

    - Sam Worthington was very good here. A more nuanced performance (even through mocap) than anything he did a decade ago.

    - Conversely, animated Stephen Lang is somehow far less animated than non-animated Stephen Lang.

    - Teenage Weaver worked. I fully bought into the performance.

    - Simon Franglen contributed nothing new of value to the music of this world.

  11. 3 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

    And IMO, I always believe part of the reason why EEAO was so successful as a indie hit was because the movie touches multiverse concept at the right time when everyone was talking about multiverse in between NWH and anticipation to DS2.

    The multiverse elements would have been moot if not for the family dynamics.
     

    EEAAO is one of those films where if it speaks to you, then it’s singing beautifully to you.

     

    The multiverse stuff is a good hook to get people in the door. The deep exploration of generational divides and it’s unique viewpoint of, let’s call it optimistic nihilism, hit the right chord with certain generations and demographics, and that’s why it had commercial staying power, critical acclaim, and now a fierce followers, myself among them.

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  12. 2 hours ago, SnokesLegs said:

    Got to admit, I did feel like Neytiri was weirdly almost entirely sidelined until near the end. Guessing she’s more integral to the third film considering Zoe Saldana’s comments about preferring Avatar 3.


    Neytiri should have been the one to have the seaside chat with Kiri, not Jake.

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  13. 19 minutes ago, Grebacio said:

     

    I'm not really interested in anime adaptations because I think it's stupid to make adaptions on the same medium than the original work

    I’ve been pounding the table for live action anime adaptations being, maybe. It the next cinematic goldmine, but not for another decade. That said, the potential is vast once the right creatives are given the reigns, which I expect to happen when the right genius executives wake up.

     

    Give Sailor Moon to Greta Gerwig. Who says no?

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