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1936
-San Francisco
Less than 30 millions.
It was re-issued in 1948.
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1946
-Duel in the sun 51,02 m *
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1955
-Oklahoma
Less than 30 millions
-Guys and dolls
Less than 30 millions
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1957
-The bridge over the river Kwai 60 m *
It was re-issued in 1963.
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1958
-South Pacific (1958) 68,80 m *
It was re-issued in 1983.
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1960
-The apartment 31,33 m *
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1961
-The absent-minded professor 30 m *
It was re-issued in 1967 and 1975.
-El Cid 38 m *
-101 dalmatians Less than 30 million. Probably 20 millions in his initial run.
It had 4 re-issues between 1969 and 1991 accumulating a total estimate of 60-65 million tickets.
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1962
-How the west was won 52,53 m *
From user Walt Disney
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1964
-My Fair Lady 60 m *
Hard case. Due to this reason that is explained in the book "The Hollywood Story" of Joel Waldo.
These figures are estimates only and are occasionally revised, years later, as happened with My Fair Lady (WB, 1964), which was reduced from rentals of $32 million to $12 million ten years after it was first released.
But at the end of 1997 Variety published a ranking of all time rental-champs and "My Fair Lady" was with 34 millions. So who was wrong? What is the real number? I don't know. But the trigger to opt for the 30 millions of rentals (as the 2-4 millions more alredy belong to re-issues in 1971 and 1973) has been his career in charts of the season 1964/1965. 15 weeks in number one. And more of 40 weeks in the top 10. Such a career like this supposes a lot more than 26 million tickets (in case there have been 12 millions rentals).
-Mary Poppins 61,72 m *
Maybe it got some more tickets in his initial run. But with the Disney movies is very difficult to reach an exact approximation with so much re-issues. Mary Poppins was the perfect finale for Walt Disney before his death. 5 oscars. And at the end of 1965 was at number 5 in all-time chart (in domestic rentals). And "My Fair Lady" at number 6.
In fact, both films were practically tied in terms of revenue in USA and overseas. But I've always liked "Mary Poppins" more. Let's hope that the sequel is up to the original.
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1965
-Dr. Zhivago 87,44 m*
It was re-issued in 1971. One of the most complicated cases.
A true worldwide hit. Although the rentals or gross overseas never published i verified that in Europe, Australia and Japan attracted more than 70 million of spectators.
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1 hour ago, Joel M said:
Really interesting stuff. Is there a way to find about re-releases of the older movies? Because those insane numbers for 10 commandmends, Ben Hur, Dr. Zhivago look very sketchy.
Thanks, Joel M. In the sources that I mentioned in the thread there are data of re-issues. I also collect informations from books, forum and old websites. This site is also very useful:
https://ameblo.jp/ayumi-niwano/entry-12249286244.html
And the numbers of "The ten commandments", "Ben Hur" and 2Dr. Zhivago" are not so insane. I will investigate a little more about them. Keep in mind that they were the "Titanics" of his time.
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1967
-The Graduate 71,75 m *
It was re-isued in 1972 with rentals of 5,20 millions.
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1968
-"2001: A Space Odyssey" Less than 30 millions of tickets.
It was re-issued in 1971 and 1972.
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1969
-Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 48,59 m *
It was re-issued successfully in 1974 with $16,653,000 rentals.
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1972
-"What's up, Doc?" Less than 30 millions of tickets.
It was re-issued in 1975 (and in 1973 according imdb).
-The Godfather 78,64 millions
It is a fact that "The Godfather" was for a brief period of time the highest grossing film of all time. But if we refer to the rentals (which ranged between 81.50 million and 85.70 million dollars). I believe that in late 1972 "Gone with the wind" (with their multiple re-issues) and "The sound of music" had higher grosses than "The Godfather". But not too much. The distance between them was minimal. And in fact I think that maybe these high incomes confuse the analysts. As the total gross of its initial release appears in all sources as $ 133,698,921. Which gives us a total of 78,646,400 tickets.Even so a very respectable figure. Case similar to that of Batman (1989) who made 150 million in income but his total collection was 250 million. Not 300 million. Most of the time the rentals suppose the 45-50% of the total gross. But it's not always like this. There are cases in which they assume up to 60% like "Batman" and "The Godfather".-
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1974
-Young Frankenstein (Initial Run)
Rentals: $30,000,000
Gross: $61,194,000 *
Tickets: 30,597,000 *
Re-Issue in 1977
Rentals: $8,000,000
Gross: $16,318,000 *
Tickets: 7,317,000 *
Re-Issue in 1979
Rentals: $4,297,000
Gross: $8,765,000 *
Tickets: 3,492,000 *
Total Rentals: 42,297,000
Total Gross: $86,277,000
Total Tickets: 41,406,000 *
* Estimations
-Blazing Saddles
This title is one of the most complicated. His total gross is $119,500,000. But this movie has 2 succesful re-issues. The first in 1976 with $13,850,000 rentals and in 1979 with $8,000,000 rentals.
If we rest these re-issues (estimating the grosses) we have an initial gross of $75,800,000 in 1974. With 40,534,000 tickets sold.
But it was reported that in 1974 was have $16,500,000 rentals in his initial run. Less than half of the $47,800,000 total income that is said to reach. Something's not right.
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I'm going to examine some titles that maybe are a bit swollen. Let's start with 1979.
-Kramer vs. Kramer
Rentals: $59,986,335
Gross: $106,260,000
No re-issues
$106,260,000 : 2.60 * = 40,86 millions of admissions
Taking into account that it premiered in december of 1979 and the real boom was during 1980.
-Star Trek
Rentals: $35,000,000 *
Gross: $82,258,456
No re-issues
32,77 millions of admissions as indicated by mojo.
* Some sources say that made 56 millions of rentals. But i think it must be a swolle figure. There are similar cases like "My Fair lady".
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3 hours ago, Catty said:
I think The Exorcist was re-released in 1979 - snuck in to see it with my friends - scarred me for life!!😱😱
Exactly. In 1979 was re-issued.
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Films that maybe not surpassed 30 millions in his initial release
1936
SAN FRANCISCO (was re-issued in 1948)
1942
CASABLANCA (was re-issued in 1949)
1961
THE ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR (was re-issued in 1967 and 1975)
Corrections
1939
GONE WITH THE WIND 59,50 m (from user Arlo)
1940
BOOM TOWN 33,28 m (was re-issued in 1947)
1943
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS 46,34 m (was re-issued in 1945)
1946
THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES 59,42 m (was re-issued in 1954)
DUEL IN THE SUN 57,14 m (was re-issued in 1954)
1949
SAMSON AND DELILAH 42,65 m (was re-issued in 1959)
1951
QUO VADIS 40,56 m (was re-issued in 1964)
1954
20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA 40 m
1956
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 131 m
AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS 80 m
1959
BEN-HUR 132,94 m (was re-issued in 1969)
1961
WEST SIDE STORY 47,10 m (was re-issued in 1968 and 1971)
THE PARENT TRAP 30,32 (was re-issued in 1968)
1962
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA 42,82 m (was re-issued in 1971 and 1989)
1973
AMERICAN GRAFFITI 56,13 m (was re-issued in 1978)
1974
THE TOWERING INFERNO 59,18 m
EARTHQUAKE 42,62 m
1977
STAR WARS 120,68 m
Here you have the corrections.
You can all participate or correct. I'm sure I was wrong in some film.
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1970
LOVE STORY 66,49 m *
AIRPORT 64,82 m ****
M*A*S*H 42,19 m *
PATTON 39,83 ****
1971
BILLY JACK 56,09 m *
FIDDLER ON THE ROOF 41,85 m *
THE FRENCH CONNECTION 31,33 m ****
1972
THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE 48,73 m *
WHAT’S UP, DOC? 38,82 m ****
1973
THE STING 81,65 m *
THE EXORCIST 81,17 m *
1974
THE TOWERING INFERNO 56,58 m *
THE TRIAL OF BILLY JACK 46,88 m *
BLAZING SADDLES 45,63 m *
YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN 42,08 m *
1975
JAWS 100,50 m *
ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW 55,06 m ****
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST 53,68 m ****
1976
ROCKY 55,04 m ****
A STAR IS BORN 35,87 m *
ALL THE PRESIDENT’S MEN 33,14 m ****
1977
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND 65,92 m *
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 57,48 m *
SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT 56,83 m ****
THE GOODBYE GIRL 37,53 m *
1978
GREASE 70,86 m ****
NATIONAL LAMPOON’S ANIMAL 51,32 m ****
JAWS 2 43,98 m *
EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE 38,32 m *
HOOPER 30 m *
1979
THE AMITYVILLE HORROR 34,43 m ****
ROCKY II 33,93 m ****
When I have time I will look to correct some data that could be wrong maybe.
Maybe surprise the data from movies like "The exorcist" or "Jaws". But it is for
the reason that they had re-releases that have been ignored by many. And in
fact it is difficult to find information. For example "Jaws" was re-released in
(when it had been months out of theaters) 1976 and 1979.
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I offer you new additions. Some based on my estimates. Other blog excerpts: https://boxofficemadness.wordpress.com/ (this blog is the closest thing to boxofficechampions that can be found today, in fact it has very similar and very consistent data). Other by user Walt Disney. And the last ones of Box Office Mojo (that sometimes I agree).
1953
THE ROBE (1953) 60 m (millions of admissions) *
FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953) 47,46 m ***
SHANE (1952) 32,90 m *
1954
WHITE CHRISTMAS (1954) 58,13 *
THE CAINE MUTINY (1954) 42,13 m *
20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA (1954) 35,55 m **
THE GLENN MILLER STORY (1954) 31,11 m **
1955
BATTLE CRY 34,80 m *
OKLAHOMA 31,55 m *
LADY AND THE TRAMP 31,48 m *
1956
AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS 88 m **
GIANT 56 m **
1957
PEYTON PLACE 46 m **
1958
SOUTH PACIFIC 73,60 m *
AUNTIE MAME 38,89 m *
CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF 35,14 m **
1959
THE SHAGGY DOG 30,58 m *
1960
SPARTACUS 40,39 m **
PSYCHO 38,47 m *
EXODUS 32,67 m **
THE ALAMO 31,05 m **
1961
101 DALMATIANS 39,49 m *
THE GUNS OF NAVARONE 41,07 m *
THE PARENT TRAP 35,70 m *
THE ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR 32,17 m *
1963
CLEOPATRA 61,17 m **
TOM JONES 43,39 m *
IT’S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD 44,25 m *
1964
MARY POPPINS 55,91 m *
THE CARPETBAGGERS 33,33 **
1965
THE SOUND OF MUSIC 135,57 m *
1966
HAWAII 31,10 m *
1967
THE GRADUATE 79,68 m *
GUESS WHO’S COMING TO DINNER 43,25 m ****
THE DIRTY DOZEN 36,51 m *
TO SIR WITH LOVE 34,69 *
VALLEY OF THE DOLLS 33,33 m **
1968
FUNNY GIRL 40 m ****
2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 35,77 m *
THE ODD COUPLE 33,28 m *
THE LOVE BUG 32,23 *
BULLITT 31,61 m *
1969
BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID 44,82 m *
MIDNIGHT COWBOY 31,53 m ****
* My estimations
** From boxofficemadness
*** From user Walt Disney
**** From Box Office Mojo
As I said before, I only consider initial releases. (With exceptions such as "Gone wtith the wind" or "Star Wars" that had initial re-releases so close (that sometimes there are only months or even days of distance) of their initial run that many consider it as one.
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First of all, I hope you will excuse me for my bad English.
First of all, I hope you will excuse me for my bad English. But I think it is time to reach a consensus on the most viewed movies (based on admissions) between 1915 and 1930. I have been researching this topic for many years. Box Office Mojo is very well in data questión from 1980 to the present. But before 1980 it has inflated, erroneous and insuffient data. That's why I'd like you to help me with this topic. I will expose (according to the time that I have) data that I have been found. And I hope you can correct me. Because I'm sure more than one will be wrong.At the moment I will expose the data that I could save from this blog before it was privatized and disappeared a short time later.
http://boxofficechampions.wordpress.com
To see if with luck and your help we can get to discover what were the movies (in its initial run) that really exceeded 30 million admissions.
TOTAL ADMISSION TICKETS OF THE 1910s and of 1920s
Rank
Film – Actors
Year
Tickets
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THE BIRTH OF A NATION Lillian Gish, Mae Marsh
1915
66.000.000
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HEARTS OF THE WORLD D.W. Griffith, David Lloyd George
1918
41.052.632
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THE BIG PARADE John Gilbert, Renée Adorée
1925
37.931.785
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WAY DOWN EAST Lillian Gish, Richard Barthelmess
1920
37.142.857
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THE TEN COMMANDMENTS Theodore Roberts, Charles de Rochefort
1923
34.739.917
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THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE Rudolph Valentino, Alice Terry
1921
34.545.455
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BEN-HUR Ramon Novarro, Francis X. Bushman
1925
33.915.807
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THE COVERED WAGON J. Warren Kerrigan, Lois Wilson
1923
33.300.000
TOTAL ADMISSION TICKETS OF THE 1930s
Rank
Film – Actors
Year
Tickets
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GONE WITH THE WIND Clark Gable, Vivien Leigh
1939
61.521.739*
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SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS Animated
1937
36.000.000*
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MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON James Stewart, Jean Arthur
1939
30.434.783
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SAN FRANCISCO Clark Gable, Jeanette MacDonald
1936
30.286.944
TOTAL ADMISSION TICKETS OF THE 1940s
Rank
Film – Actors
Year
Tickets
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THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES Fredric March, Myrna Loy
1946
64.570.000
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DUEL IN THE SUN Jennifer Jones, Joseph Cotten
1946
64.570.000
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THIS IS THE ARMY George Murphy, Joan Leslie
1943
57.248.276
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SAMSON AND DELILAH Hedy Lamarr, Victor Mature
1949
50.000.000
5
SERGEANT YORK Gary Cooper, Walter Brennan
1941
49.085.680
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FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS Gary Cooper, Ingrid Bergman
1943
48.965.517
7
GONE WITH THE WIND Clark Gable, Vivien Leigh [Re-issue]*
1939
48.709.630*
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THE BELLS OF ST. MARY’S Bing Crosby, Ingrid Bergman
1945
45.714.286
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THE JOLSON STORY Larry Parks, Evelyn Keyes
1946
43.428.571
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GOING MY WAY Bing Crosby, Barry Fitzgerald
1944
40.625.000
11
MRS. MINIVER Greer Garson, Walter Pidgeon
1942
39.925.993
12
BOOM TOWN Clark Gable, Spencer Tracy
1940
38.220.125
13
YANKEE DOODLE DANDY James Cagney, Joan Leslie
1942
34.960.600
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WELCOME STRANGER Bing Crosby, Joan Caulfield
1947
34.857.143
15
RANDOM HARVEST Ronald Colman, Greer Garson
1942
34.559.267
16
BLUE SKIES Fred Astaire, Bing Crosby
1946
32.571.429
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THE SONG OF BERNADETTE Jennifer Jones, Charles Bickford
1943
32.420.690
18
MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS Judy Garland, Margaret O’Brien
1944
32.076.263
19
THE YEARLING Gregory Peck, Jane Wyman
1946
31.816.114
20
LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN Gene Tierney, Cornel Wilde
1945
31.457.143
21
THE EGG AND I Claudette Colbert, Fred MacMurray
1947
31.428.571
22
SINCE YOU WENT AWAY Claudette Colbert, Jennifer Jones
1944
30.779.725
23
CASABLANCA Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman
1942
30.705.022
24
UNCONQUERED Gary Cooper, Paulette Goddard
1947
30.000.000
And then data that I have been able to discover from filmographies of this blog (based on web archive captures).
1951
QUO VADIS Robert Taylor, Deborah Kerr
44.911.932
1952 THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH James Stewart, Charlton Heston 1 6 52.830.189
1955
MISTER ROBERTS Henry Fonda, James Cagney
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37.770.000
1955
GUYS AND DOLLS Marlon Brando, Frank Sinatra
1
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30.554.111
1956
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS Charlton Heston, Yul Brynner
1
14
136.800.0
1956
THE KING AND I Yul Brynner, Deborah Kerr
1
4
34.000.000
1957
THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI Alec Guinness, William Holden
1
7
68.780.000
1957
SAYONARA Marlon Brando, Miiko Taka
1
5
42.000.000
1959 BEN-HUR Charlton Heston, Jack Hawkins 1 33 145.067.012
1959
OPERATION PETTICOAT Cary Grant, Tony Curtis
1
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36.555.118
1959
SOME LIKE IT HOT Marilyn Monroe, Tony Curtis
1
7
31.873.863
1959
PILLOW TALK Doris Day, Rock Hudson
1
7
30.078.431
1961
WEST SIDE STORY Natalie Wood, Richard Beymer
1
13
56.943.681
1961 EL CID Charlton Heston, Sophia Loren 3 34.782.609
1962
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA Peter O’Toole, Alec Guinness
1
4
59.788.339
1962
THE LONGEST DAY John Wayne, Robert Mitchum
1
4
50.285.714
1963
HOW THE WEST WAS WON James Stewart, Debbie Reynolds
1
12
49.253.842
1964
GOLDFINGER Sean Connery, Gert Fröbe
1
7
49.457.432
2
1965
DOCTOR ZHIVAGO Omar Sharif, Julie Christie
1
13
120.700.990
1965
THUNDERBALL Sean Connery, Claudine Auger
1
9
56.676.107
3
1967
BONNIE AND CLYDE Warren Beatty, Faye Dunaway
2
38.000.000
1967
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE Sean Connery, Akiko Wakabayashi
1
6
32.314.487
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1972
THE GODFATHER Marlon Brando, Al Pacino
1
26
101.500.000
1973
AMERICAN GRAFFITI Richard Dreyfuss, Ron Howard
4
62.291.723
1974 EARTHQUAKE Charlton Heston, Ava Gardner 2 38.342.240
1976
KING KONG Jeff Bridges, Jessica Lange
1
5
34.661.972
3
STAR WARS – Admission Tickets Analysis
YEAR
RELEASE
TICKETS
1977
First Run
1
20
87.892.377
1978
Re-Issue
1
1
32.799.145
1979
Re-Issue
1
1
9.193.625
1978
SUPERMAN Christopher Reeve, Margot Kidder
1
11
57.358.127
1978
HEAVEN CAN WAIT Warren Beatty, Julie Christie
2
42.222.000
1979
KRAMER VS. KRAMER Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep
1
10
47.797.876
1979
STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy
1
44.621.514
1979
ALIEN Sigourney Weaver, Tom Skerritt
1
3
32.441.058
1979
APOCALYPSE NOW Martin Sheen, Marlon Brando
3
30.263.078
Missing titles will send them out when you can. Based on data from other sources (or mine estimates).
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Very interesting. But perhaps the gross was an incomplete estimate or referred to rentals. Thank you very much. It is a pity that in those times they measured the success of a movie for rents and not for the number of spectators.
The page that I mentioned had tops of each year with the exact number of admissions of each film (that exceeds 10 million) from 1914 until 1951. And also has its merit. But I will not take away the merit from you because it shows that like me you investigate a lot.
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1 hour ago, Joel M said:
@enzo1988 where did you get the disney animation re-releases numbers from before 1980? The only old disney animation I have found numbers seperated be every re-release is 101 dalmatians.
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Top 10 grossing films per country (Excluding US/Canada)
in International Box Office
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