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And so with the average of these 3 tops there was a list like this.
1: Ben-Hur (1959)
2: The ten commandments (1956)
3: Titanic (1997)
4: Gone with the wind (1939)
5: Sound of music (1965)
6: Avengers: Endgame (2019)
7: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982)
8: Dr. Zhivago (1965)
9: Jaws (1975)
10: Avatar (2009)
11: Star Wars (1977)
12: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957)
And obviously I valued many other films with this method...
13: Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
14: The best years of our lives (1946)
15: The force awakens (2015)
16: Thunderball (1965)
17: The godfather (1972)
18: Goldfinger (1964)
19: The lion king (2019)
20: Jurassic Park (1993)
21: The exorcist (1973)
22: Spider-Man: No way home (2021)
23: The greatest show on earth (1952)
24: Grease (1978)
25: The longest day (1962)
26: The sting (1973)
27: From here to eternity (1953)
28: South pacific (1958)
29: The towering inferno (1974)
30: Jurassic World (2015)
31: Harry Potter 1 (2001)
32: Around the world in 80 days (1956)
33: The lion king (1994)
34: Mary Poppins (1964)
35: The guns of navarone (1961)
36: My fair lady (1964)
37: Furious 7 (2015)
38: For whom the bells tolls (1943)
39: Frozen II (2019)
40: The phantom menace (1999)
41: The robe (1953)
42: The return of the king (2003)
43: The bells of Saint Mary (1945)
44: Avengers: The age of Ultron (2015)
45: The avengers (2012)
46: The lord of the rings (2001)
47: Cleopatra (1963)
48: Furious 8 (2017)
49: The empire strikes back (1980)
50: Giant (1956)
I know it's not the perfect or definitive top but I think it might interest you.
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And the last top is the average success (taking into account the population comparison) of all the countries in which it was released that have data. Because, for example, there are many Chinese films that have received many admissions but have not done anything outside of this country.
1: Titanic (1997) 7,25
2: Gone with the wind (1939) 7,04
3: Ben-Hur (1959) 6,80
4: The ten commandments (1956) 6,69
5: Dr. Zhivago (1965) 5,71
6: Avatar (2009) 5,68
7: Jaws (1975) 5,47
8: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982) 5,39
9: The best years of our lives (1946) 5,35
10: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957) 5,12
11: Avengers: Endgame (2019) 5,05
12: Thunderball (1965) 5,01
This top represented 16.66% on average for the final top.
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The next top was the number of admissions (which you can find from all possible countries) extrapolated to the 2019 population of the different countries. Note that older titles do not have hypothetical country additions. Which gives it more merit.
1: The ten commandments (1956) 350,96 millions
2: Ben-hur (1959) 342,56 millions
3: Titanic (1997) 327,55 millions
4: Sound of music (1965) 298,17 millions
5: Avengers: Endgame (2019) 295,5 millions
6: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982) 266,52 millions
7: Avatar (2009) 266,08 millions
8: Gone with the wind (1939) 264,75 millions
9: Jaws (1975) 252,48 millions
10: Star Wars (1977) 242,95 millions
11: Dr. Zhivago (1965) 233,25 millions
12: Avengers: Infinity War (2018) 225,82 millions
This top represented 33.33% of the average of the final top.-
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This is a very interesting topic. Forgive my lousy English. A few years ago I made a kind of top most viewed movies in history (in movie theaters). Because films from before the 1980s don't have very accurate overseas box office data available, I did a count of all the countries (with old admissions data) that I could. And that they had some consistency with their figures.
The numbers are based on the number of admissions in their initial release (without adding any re-release) in the United States. And in the rest of the world (according to the countries that had data). The insidekino listing is very good and useful.
The most attended films worldwide (without re-releases and worldwide population comparison added) were:
1: Ben-hur (1959) 6,73 % (207,99 millions)
2: The ten commandments 6,63 % (201,23 millions)
3: Gone with the wind (1939) 5,52 % (133,78 millions)
4: Sound of music (1965) 5,44 % (185,47 millions)
5: Titanic (1997) 5,07 % (303,84 millions)
6: Dr. Zhivago (1965) 4,52 % (157,52 millions)
7: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982) 4,20 % (196,96 millions)
8: Jaws (1975) 4,19 % (174,30 millions)
9: Avengers: Endgame (2019) 4,16 % (321,17 millions)
10: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957) 4,05 % (118,65 millions)
11: Star Wars (1977) 3,96 % (170,78 millions)
12: Avatar (2009) 3,96 % (275,18 millions)
This top represented 50% of the average of the final top.
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I already published this ranking in insidekino forum. I think it maybe insteresting.
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1936
-San Francisco
Less than 30 millions.
It was re-issued in 1948.
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1946
-Duel in the sun 51,02 m *
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1955
-Oklahoma
Less than 30 millions
-Guys and dolls
Less than 30 millions
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1957
-The bridge over the river Kwai 60 m *
It was re-issued in 1963.
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1958
-South Pacific (1958) 68,80 m *
It was re-issued in 1983.
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1960
-The apartment 31,33 m *
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1961
-The absent-minded professor 30 m *
It was re-issued in 1967 and 1975.
-El Cid 38 m *
-101 dalmatians Less than 30 million. Probably 20 millions in his initial run.
It had 4 re-issues between 1969 and 1991 accumulating a total estimate of 60-65 million tickets.
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1962
-How the west was won 52,53 m *
From user Walt Disney
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1964
-My Fair Lady 60 m *
Hard case. Due to this reason that is explained in the book "The Hollywood Story" of Joel Waldo.
These figures are estimates only and are occasionally revised, years later, as happened with My Fair Lady (WB, 1964), which was reduced from rentals of $32 million to $12 million ten years after it was first released.
But at the end of 1997 Variety published a ranking of all time rental-champs and "My Fair Lady" was with 34 millions. So who was wrong? What is the real number? I don't know. But the trigger to opt for the 30 millions of rentals (as the 2-4 millions more alredy belong to re-issues in 1971 and 1973) has been his career in charts of the season 1964/1965. 15 weeks in number one. And more of 40 weeks in the top 10. Such a career like this supposes a lot more than 26 million tickets (in case there have been 12 millions rentals).
-Mary Poppins 61,72 m *
Maybe it got some more tickets in his initial run. But with the Disney movies is very difficult to reach an exact approximation with so much re-issues. Mary Poppins was the perfect finale for Walt Disney before his death. 5 oscars. And at the end of 1965 was at number 5 in all-time chart (in domestic rentals). And "My Fair Lady" at number 6.
In fact, both films were practically tied in terms of revenue in USA and overseas. But I've always liked "Mary Poppins" more. Let's hope that the sequel is up to the original.
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1965
-Dr. Zhivago 87,44 m*
It was re-issued in 1971. One of the most complicated cases.
A true worldwide hit. Although the rentals or gross overseas never published i verified that in Europe, Australia and Japan attracted more than 70 million of spectators.
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1 hour ago, Joel M said:
Really interesting stuff. Is there a way to find about re-releases of the older movies? Because those insane numbers for 10 commandmends, Ben Hur, Dr. Zhivago look very sketchy.
Thanks, Joel M. In the sources that I mentioned in the thread there are data of re-issues. I also collect informations from books, forum and old websites. This site is also very useful:
https://ameblo.jp/ayumi-niwano/entry-12249286244.html
And the numbers of "The ten commandments", "Ben Hur" and 2Dr. Zhivago" are not so insane. I will investigate a little more about them. Keep in mind that they were the "Titanics" of his time.
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1967
-The Graduate 71,75 m *
It was re-isued in 1972 with rentals of 5,20 millions.
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1968
-"2001: A Space Odyssey" Less than 30 millions of tickets.
It was re-issued in 1971 and 1972.
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1969
-Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 48,59 m *
It was re-issued successfully in 1974 with $16,653,000 rentals.
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1972
-"What's up, Doc?" Less than 30 millions of tickets.
It was re-issued in 1975 (and in 1973 according imdb).
-The Godfather 78,64 millions
It is a fact that "The Godfather" was for a brief period of time the highest grossing film of all time. But if we refer to the rentals (which ranged between 81.50 million and 85.70 million dollars). I believe that in late 1972 "Gone with the wind" (with their multiple re-issues) and "The sound of music" had higher grosses than "The Godfather". But not too much. The distance between them was minimal. And in fact I think that maybe these high incomes confuse the analysts. As the total gross of its initial release appears in all sources as $ 133,698,921. Which gives us a total of 78,646,400 tickets.Even so a very respectable figure. Case similar to that of Batman (1989) who made 150 million in income but his total collection was 250 million. Not 300 million. Most of the time the rentals suppose the 45-50% of the total gross. But it's not always like this. There are cases in which they assume up to 60% like "Batman" and "The Godfather".-
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1974
-Young Frankenstein (Initial Run)
Rentals: $30,000,000
Gross: $61,194,000 *
Tickets: 30,597,000 *
Re-Issue in 1977
Rentals: $8,000,000
Gross: $16,318,000 *
Tickets: 7,317,000 *
Re-Issue in 1979
Rentals: $4,297,000
Gross: $8,765,000 *
Tickets: 3,492,000 *
Total Rentals: 42,297,000
Total Gross: $86,277,000
Total Tickets: 41,406,000 *
* Estimations
-Blazing Saddles
This title is one of the most complicated. His total gross is $119,500,000. But this movie has 2 succesful re-issues. The first in 1976 with $13,850,000 rentals and in 1979 with $8,000,000 rentals.
If we rest these re-issues (estimating the grosses) we have an initial gross of $75,800,000 in 1974. With 40,534,000 tickets sold.
But it was reported that in 1974 was have $16,500,000 rentals in his initial run. Less than half of the $47,800,000 total income that is said to reach. Something's not right.
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I'm going to examine some titles that maybe are a bit swollen. Let's start with 1979.
-Kramer vs. Kramer
Rentals: $59,986,335
Gross: $106,260,000
No re-issues
$106,260,000 : 2.60 * = 40,86 millions of admissions
Taking into account that it premiered in december of 1979 and the real boom was during 1980.
-Star Trek
Rentals: $35,000,000 *
Gross: $82,258,456
No re-issues
32,77 millions of admissions as indicated by mojo.
* Some sources say that made 56 millions of rentals. But i think it must be a swolle figure. There are similar cases like "My Fair lady".
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3 hours ago, Catty said:
I think The Exorcist was re-released in 1979 - snuck in to see it with my friends - scarred me for life!!😱😱
Exactly. In 1979 was re-issued.
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Films that maybe not surpassed 30 millions in his initial release
1936
SAN FRANCISCO (was re-issued in 1948)
1942
CASABLANCA (was re-issued in 1949)
1961
THE ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR (was re-issued in 1967 and 1975)
Corrections
1939
GONE WITH THE WIND 59,50 m (from user Arlo)
1940
BOOM TOWN 33,28 m (was re-issued in 1947)
1943
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS 46,34 m (was re-issued in 1945)
1946
THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES 59,42 m (was re-issued in 1954)
DUEL IN THE SUN 57,14 m (was re-issued in 1954)
1949
SAMSON AND DELILAH 42,65 m (was re-issued in 1959)
1951
QUO VADIS 40,56 m (was re-issued in 1964)
1954
20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA 40 m
1956
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 131 m
AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS 80 m
1959
BEN-HUR 132,94 m (was re-issued in 1969)
1961
WEST SIDE STORY 47,10 m (was re-issued in 1968 and 1971)
THE PARENT TRAP 30,32 (was re-issued in 1968)
1962
LAWRENCE OF ARABIA 42,82 m (was re-issued in 1971 and 1989)
1973
AMERICAN GRAFFITI 56,13 m (was re-issued in 1978)
1974
THE TOWERING INFERNO 59,18 m
EARTHQUAKE 42,62 m
1977
STAR WARS 120,68 m
Here you have the corrections.
You can all participate or correct. I'm sure I was wrong in some film.
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The Admission Count Thread.
in International Box Office
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Thanks!