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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    9 minutes ago, adaros said:

    48-hour negative Covid tests are required to watch a movie in many cities."
    That can kill any movie no matter who director is.

    Things are volatile right now and can change very fast.

    I don't actually expect the 48 hour negative test things to be very prevalent and necessarily long lasting, and the rules seem to be all over the place among different provinces, and even cities; but I think the overall trend of bucking the draconian zero-covid policy and heading toward true reopening is clear enough. So really, the longer Avatar stays in theater, the more chances it has. Ironically, this might prove to be another Cameron's style "lengthy run", but not actually due to the lack of hype.

     

    I also think theatres will reopen at a higher rate in the next 10 days in anticipation for A2's release, we'll see if that happens; but things have a habit of going in direction beneficial for Cameron, as we've seen.

     

     

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    8 minutes ago, Bruce said:

    Seems you are not type of guy who get addicted in twitter and watch the news

    Ok I tell you what happened ,China break out the revoultion recent days to ask Government open the public place because of many reasons ,and facing the mad of people Government finally do the concession and open the public place recently,you can see what’s happening in China thread

    Oh, of course I'm aware of all this, both the protest and the re-opening of certain public venues; I've posted in the China thread about this general topic many times.

    What I was curious about is, will the extent of "cinema recovery" be fast enough to allow A2 to have a run nearing it's full potential (only 43.7% theatres are open, but increasing by the day). and even if public venues are open, would the "hesitancy" to visit theatres still remain in people's minds. I guess we will find out soon enough.

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    2 hours ago, omark said:

    I notice that the actor who plays Loak, the child who from the trailers and posters is given the most space as if he has among the most important parts in this second film, never really promotes the film.
    I wonder why.

     

     

     

    He does post about Avatar on his Instagram, sort of giving me "Dealing with some mental health issues" vibe.

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    10 hours ago, Sheldon Cr said:

    Ncsoft China's president wants the people to experience avatar so much he's opening theaters they're saying.  Wow and it looks like a Cameron film will join the 200m OW club 😎😎 Cameron repeat business and all dominating multiplier next🏋‍♀️💯.  Woohooo!!

     

    Come on! Come On I  want pandorians  to drive this new journway over a billion domestic. I hope I can get it in a 4dx theater

    China is such a finicky situation that even though now there is reason to be optimistic, there are still so many factors at play that could just derail things... This makes tracking A2 China run both exciting and anxiety inducing!

     

    I've never experienced 4DX, but I think you should be sure to save that for a second viewing or something, first viewing you might get distracted by all the effects etc.

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    China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

    in China At The Box Office

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    3 hours ago, The GOAT said:

     

    I think it's probable that Avatar 2 gets at least another month, and has a reasonable amount of showing throughout Chinese NY:

    * This CNY's slate is probably not packed, we are not even 100% sure if Wandering Earth 2 is staying there

    * China Film Group's interest in promoting CINITY theatres is heavily tied into A2, they probably would want to it to play for a long time.

    * It almost feels like Cameron films have a tendency to avoids the worst scenarios, even in a tough situation, somehow things always turn out beneficial for it.

     

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    18 minutes ago, adaros said:

    Must be PR thing as each day more and more cinemas in China are closed, today only 37% are open.

    Definitely not referring to China presale since presale has not started, but it is entirely possible that the presale so far in other markets that opened for IMAX screens is one of the highest, at this stage anyway. I'd be surprised if it is not, since this film would skew IMAX so much. 

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    20 minutes ago, stuart360 said:

    Guys has there been any talk about Disney+ streaming yet?. I mean i hope they dont yank the film from cinemas after 6 weeks or something stupid. Obviously mine, and i'm sure others, predictions are based on the film having a full cinema run.

     

    There has been some comment from Landau that Disney is committed to a healthy theatrical window for this film, which to me, sounds like it's gonna be at least 90 days. 

     

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    3 hours ago, Lucas said:

     

    lol, lmao

     

    Oh my...

    While I 100% support the people's rage and protest against CCP and wish everyone all well; I really hope this "want to see a movie" thing doesn't take hold as one of the main narratives, that could 100% get A2 banned.

    And it really shouldn't become a major narrative anyway because the stake at hand when it comes to this protest is much much bigger than movies.

    I am going to go back to "hope for the best, expect the worst" mode when it comes to A2 in China.

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    3 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

    If you think about the first movie it really has zero subplots, it's all Jake. In A2 we'll have Lo'ak and Kiri subplots I'm sure of it.

    It seems that Lo'ak, Kiri, Spider and Quaritch will all get their own fairly meaty narratives, and Lo'ak even has two (the romance angle and the outcast Tulkun friend angle); this is on top of what we are getting with Jake and Neytiri and Metkayina clan etc..

     

    That is a lot of plot indeed, and now that I think about it, I think I'm starting to buy the theory that those leaked titles (The seed bearer, the Tulkun rider, Quest for Eywa) might really be alternatively titles of Avatar 2, and not necessarily the titles for the upcoming sequels. 

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    China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

    in China At The Box Office

    Posted · Edited by NCsoft

    Yeah, seeing videos of rage, large protest and "uprise" all over my twitter feed seemingly happening across China (especially in many campus all over the country); the XinJiang burning is like the last straw but really, it's the culmination of so many tragedies during these lockdown policies. This feels quite big because this type of stuff never happens in China except maybe a small corner somewhere, but never a coordinated effort like this. I'm kind of encouraged to see Chinese young people standing up again but also worried that we might soon witness another crackdown tragedy, I hope for the best and for everyone to be safe.

     

    Might lead to the loosening of zero-covid policy but CCP might also double down, who knows at this point...

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    41 minutes ago, Sheldon Cr said:

    Hey NCsoft. Looks like.we getting a china  release. Exciting times. John campea still feels 500-700 mil possible in china with this movie. Wow I hope no less than 400-500 m run from China alone

     

    Theaters operating in china at 60-70% open..So hopefully that's enough with multiple views to get more than double - triple Fast 9 crapfest numbers in China.

     

    Hey Kal!

    China's theatre opening rate is at 51% or so right now, could dip even further but unsure whether it'll come back up when A2 lands there, could maybe rely on a long run so that when cities locked down are reopened, A2 is still in theatre, in that case, we're going to see some interesting legs!

    I could still see $400M-$500M in China, not optimal, but then again, that would be better than any import films would receive these days; I am still cautiously hopeful for China numbers!

     

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    1 hour ago, hw64 said:

     

    If you look on reddit you'll find people still debating whether or not it's going to make $1 billion.

     

    It's always curious to me how there is a large portion of people completely uninformed about box office in r/boxoffice, it's not like it is the Youtube comment section we're talking about. You'd think they gather there precisely because they are interested in box office...

     

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