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50 minutes ago, Punishment said:
With that Monday drop TFA would end above $1b using all three of the LOTR movies daily increases/decreases now.
FOTR legs = $1.1b
TTT legs = $1.01b
ROTK legs = $1.03b
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Hobbit3 legs = $897m for shall we say, those with "lack of faith"
$1B dream alive again!
I can see this movie having lord of the rings legs! For starters, because it has had better legs than LOTR so far.
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21 minutes ago, 1Robert1 said:
Of course TFA could have great weekends, but JW had in 4th weekend over 29 mln, so if TFA needs 70% it means that it need around 50 mln in 4th weekend, and we shouldn't forget that TFA doesn't have weekdays which are 70% better than JW, so it need even better weekend.
Relax bro, it's the week after the holidays, one of the slowest of the year.
Of course TFA was going to drop huge. Doesn't mean that it's going to drop huge in the following weeks.
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Everything that's been said in this thread so far is the reason why the-numbers.com don't even bother adjusting any movie that came before Star Wars in 1977.
If they wanted their numbers to still be relevant today, they had to better report them at the time.
They didn't, so now the only movies that are relevant today when we want to compare with new titles are those who did, which started with Star Wars.
And I have no problem with that. Everyone knows GWTW had a godly run. But that's all it should stay as, a "godly run" that's not quantifiable.
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48 minutes ago, e1828 said:
I have posted charts for Fastest to $550 million and $600 million (before The-Numbers had updated for TFA)
For consecutive days $20+ million (not sure if complete for 4 days):
1) Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 17
2) Spiderman 2 - 6
T3) Despicable Me 2 - 5
T3) Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince - 5
T3) Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - 5
T3) Jurassic World - 5
T3) The Dark Knight - 5
T3) Transformers: Dark of the Moon - 5
T3) Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - 5
T10) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - 4
T10) Shrek 2 - 4
T10) Star Wars Ep. II: Attack of the Clones - 4
T10) Star Wars Ep. III: Revenge of the Sith - 4
T10) The Hangover Part II - 4
T10) The Matrix Reloaded - 4
T10) Twilight Saga: Eclipse - 4
For consecutive days $30+ million, this is currently quite a boring list as it simply consists of:
1) Star Wars: The Force Awakens - 6
At least 20 other movies - 3
17
Almost 3 times the previous record
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Just now, terrestrial said:
I agree, but I like The-Numbers for providing the missing charts, see p.78
Yup, both websites have their short-comings!
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2 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
AS still holds the record for 4th weekend, as the ~ $89 happened at the 4th weekend... if you can count it as that, due to the starting out as a small release
That's how the-numbers calculates it, but not BOM, and I must agree with BOM here.
AS's $89M week-end was an opening, not 4th week-end. To count it as 4th week-end is cheating, because it wasn't a wide release, and undermines the real achievements here - huge movies having gargantuan 4th week-ends like Avatar, Titanic, and soon TFA.
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1 minute ago, incognitoo said:
So it has indeed passed American Sniper's opening/January weekend record according to the new estimates? In his third weekend. *inco shakes his head in awe* This thing really is out of this world.
They're not "new estimates" anymore though. These are actuals.
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2 minutes ago, rustyspoons89 said:
The last 2 Monday's have surprised us... Perhaps this Monday can surprise us once again. As noted earlier, a lot of schools don't return until mid week. I have a hunch it will be over 10.
And it's Star Wars.
Often enough, just name dropping it is enough to give it the small bump it needs.
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2 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
Agree. As I posted that I only saw a white page = they were updating. They should do a non opening weekends chart without givimg 2nd, 3rd,... too I think (not only for this movie, I repeatedly searched for those)
Yep, and they should also add "Fastest to 550M, 600M, 650M" since there are now a few of them, include biggest week-ends (not openings), and include the records for most straight days at 10M, 20M, 30M.
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4 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
O.K., I checked (someone was asking about Jauary..)
It broke the Winter season record = same ammounts, same movies. BOM is still updating
I'm not sure if they're going to include it. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/byseason.htm?season=Winter&p=.htm
Winter says "Winter Opening". TFA was clearly not opening.
However, I don't see why they couldn't just create a new record category or something.
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This week's drops are gonna be huge. Even Avatar couldn't get around that. The next week-end though, that's the real deal-maker or deal-breaker for $1B (although I still think that it's more than 50% probability for $1B)
The question is, how huge will those drops be?
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2 minutes ago, rantanamo said:
something many may not realize; Lots of schools don't return until tomorrow or wednesday. Pretty much the entire DFW metro and a big chunk of Texas. Perhaps a little higher Monday than we probably expect?
Was it also the case in 2009? If yes, I guess it won't make much of a difference.
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2 minutes ago, Sagemode87 said:
Guess you guys aren't happy until this has every record out there
Taking my post at face value too much, are you?
This was more of a funny nod toward all the numbers TFA has been posting since the beginning of its run, namely...
248 OW
149 2nd W-E
49 M 2nd friday
496M 9-day gross
Maybe I forgot a few.
Now we got a 90M 3rd week-end. My inner OCD is happy!
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Also, any of you guys know if it's gonna show up in January record on boxofficemojo? They seem to only keep track of Opening week-ends for the record, not subsequent week-ends.
edit: the-numbers is listing TFA as #1 for January http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/records/Biggest-January-Weekend-at-the-Box-Office
We're gonna have to wait for boxofficemojo to update their numbers.
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RIP January record.
For once, TFA actually reaches a milestone
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2 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
THE HATEFUL EIGHT took in $15.71M this weekend and has grossed $29.05M to date domestically.
#TheHatefulEightFurther below estimates. This movie can't catch a break
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1 minute ago, grey ghost said:
This year things might return to normal with the biggest movies struggling to cross 1.2 billion.
Indeed. Transformers grossed 1.1 billion in 2014 but all the other movies except The Hobbit weren't even close to $1B
And then, 2015 happened.
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I'd say Rogue One has a pretty good shot at $1B, seeing the success of Ep 7
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13 minutes ago, JonathanLB said:
I'm headed to Los Angeles next Monday through Wednesday for our annual company meeting. I founded my company in L.A. when I lived there and its where my 2 employees are based; we're hiring a 3rd in the L.A. area this year. I'm excited because I'm going to TFA with my editor on Monday night at the TCL Chinese. It's kind of a dream for me as I've never gotten to see a Star Wars movie at the Chinese and it's such an historic location for film fans and especially Star Wars fans. I think it's going to be fun!
Definitely, I'd love to know what else you can dig up on GWTW just out of curiosity. I wasn't sure how well movies' total grosses were tracked that far back and how accurate all of the ticket price adjusting is. I'm not calling into question the data I see, just curious how it was all put together.
Even today, most people are not getting the ANH grosses correct. I keep hearing $300M first run, adjusted over $1 billion, blah blah, etc. I've done my research on Star Wars. That's not accurate. The first run was around $221M before it was re-released in 1978 and as was pointed out here, it was still playing at one theater because of a lawsuit. That theater is in my home city, Portland, OR, or more specifically the Westgate Theater in Beaverton, OR (where Nike is based), and they played ANH for 78 weeks. Their contract stipulated that if ANH made above a certain amount per week, they could keep it for as long as they wanted. Fox tried to take the film back, to my understanding because they wanted to end the first run and had plans for the re-release, but Westgate sued and won, allowing them to keep the film print as long as their contract terms continued to be met.
In any case, ANH's first run adjusts to more like $850M in todays' dollars.
Great post.
I definitely didn't know that, thanks!
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41 minutes ago, Darth Water Bottle said:
After the Avengers amazing $200 million OW, it felt the same.
To be fair, I hope that the movie that beats Star Wars doesn't beat it like Jurassic World beat Avengers -- by 1 million.
A movie opening to 249 million would be a pretty lame way to beat Star Wars.
At least beat it properly! Like Batman beat Ghostbusters, The Lost World beat Batman, Spider-Man beat Harry Potter, Avengers beat Harry Potter, and so on - all by a pretty wide margin.
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5 minutes ago, Orestes said:
If there's one thing I dislike about TFAs run, its how small other movie's runs in the coming months will seem. BvS opens to 180? How cute. Civil War passes 160 OW? *Pats*. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to anything box office wise right now aside from Rogue One.
Movies can still claim opening week-end records in their respective months!
I'd like to see a studio pull off an audacious September release, and score a 100+ opening week-end there.
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If the actuals is 20M+, then TFA will have grossed more than $20M for 17 straight days. Of course, that's a record.
And one that's probably not going to fall for a long while.
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Sums up pretty much what I feel.
We're living history guys. Let's enjoy it! Most people around us will only ever acknowledge this box office run once it's over, once the numbers are in.
We're seeing them coming in, every day, firsthand. And they're amazing.
I definitely didn't know that, thanks!
8M TFA Rth Monday number!!! SW7 has surpassed TA1 & F7 for 4th alltime WW!!!
in Numbers and Data
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Inflation-Adjusted Top 10 Movies Released Since 1977
Note: This chart is adjusted for inflation. The figures represent the total amount of money a movie has taken in domestically over its lifetime taking into account the cost of tickets.
the-numbers' chart makes much more sense than boxofficemojo's. Movies released before 1977 came from an era when box office wasn't reported faithfully enough, and as such, can't be compared.