Daxtreme
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Also, apparently, according to boxofficemojo we're getting actuals for the whole holidays tomorrow.
Like, December 24th up to now. Is that true? If yes, how much of a change can we expect?
Also, what do we have now then if it's true? Partial actuals?
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1 minute ago, K1Rey said:
Oh so is that Disney's estimate and not RTH's? I trust what RTH says than Disney.
Yep, Disney estimates. We're still waiting on rth numbers for Sunday
Don't get your hopes too high though, the last sunday of the holidays is usually huge-drop-land
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So TFA is a monster hit in the UK and should pass Avatar this week, as well as all-time #1 Skyfall within a week or two.
Most of the other markets are dominated heavily by Avatar, but Titanic's gross is within reach for most of them.
The most out of reach are probably Avatar's grosses in Russia and South Korea. Unless they are suddenly holding very well?
Japan is holding very well for TFA, and the country is known to be a slow burner so final results impossible to predict.
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Just now, K1Rey said:
So this didn't get past 90M this weekend? I'm a bit disappointed.
It's not over, we've yet to see actuals and many of us here believe, me included, that Disney is lowballing it.
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1 minute ago, vc2002 said:
I dont see anyone saying that and even hinting that.
No, what we're trying to argue is which is a better release time frame for SW8: Dec like SW7, or summer.
Sorry I extrapolated opinion from other sites as well. But I did get that vibe from here as well, lemme check...
Apparently it originates from page 58.
Anyway, maybe you didn't say it directly, but some of you sure as hell are hinting it, otherwise there wouldn't be so many people defending the May release in here.
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Seriously guys, Star Wars could release at any time of the year and would break records, that's just how it is.
People back then were saying that "Star Wars couldn't ever beat OW record because it releases in December", and now that it did, everyone's like "IT HAS TO RELEASE IN DECEMBER TO MAKE MONEY"
Wrong - Star Wars just proved that it can release at any time of the year that it wants, it's still gonna break records anyway. Don't become the next wave of naysayers, please.
I'd be willing to bet that it could destroy records in September too. Seriously.
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And May 25th, 2017 is the 40th anniversary of Star Wars.
No way are they gonna move Episode 8 from that and leave nothing in its place. 0% probability.
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1 minute ago, JonathanLB said:
LOL, 8 times is adorable
I've seen TFA 10 times and am just getting started. I saw TPM 53 times in theaters (50 on first release), AOTC 54, and ROTS 24 times. Not saying 8 is bad, but that's child's play for a Star Wars fan. Ha ha.
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5 minutes ago, Deathlife said:
Is there a way to block the word "disappointing" in the TFA domestic thread?
It simply does not make any sense to refer to this historic run as disappointing.
Especially when you see stuff like this
Fastest to $100m, $200m, $300m, $400m, $500m, $600m, $700m US Box Office
TOP SINGLE DAY GROSSES
BY DAY OF THE WEEK1 Star Wars: The Force Awakens BV $40,109,742 4,134 $9,702 12/21/15 4 $288.1 $740.3 2 Star Wars: The Force Awakens BV $31,362,029 4,134 $7,586 12/28/15 11 $571.4 $740.3 3 Spider-Man 2 Sony $27,661,137 4,152 $6,662 7/05/04 6 $180.1 $373.6 4 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $26,779,538 4,260 $6,286 5/26/08 5 $152.0 $317.1 5 Jurassic World Uni. $25,344,820 4,274 $5,930 6/15/15 4 $234.2 $652.3 -
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Fun fact
According to boxofficemojo, The Twilight Saga: Eclipse is now the movie with the second-highest number of records aaaaand they're mostly related to its wide release
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/?page=byrecord&p=.htm
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If you remove china from the top 5 worldwide, Star Wars is currently sitting at #3, little less than 500M behind Titanic, and 1B + behind Avatar.
Bar a miracle in China, Avatar's record is safe.
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Ok so you don't agree, fine, but you can't deny that the Chinese market is heavily skewed toward recent movies, particularly the 2-3 last years.
It really undermines movies that came prior to that, heavily. It's not even close to inflation, we're talking +30-50% increase per year.
Inflation is like 2%/y
I still think that it gives a clearer picture but whatever. Especially right now since Star Wars' only missing market is China.
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Here's an interesting table I made, comparing top 10 all-time grossers with and without china.
Furious 7 drops 4 ranks, HP gains 2, Avengers 2 drops 2 ranks, and Star Wars and Frozen climb 2 ranks.
I believe that removing China gives a much better picture of where the movies stand in all markets worldwide in terms of awareness. As we all know, Avengers 2 couldn't quite live to the first one in terms of hype, and it really shows this fact better if you remove china because the first one didn't make a fortune there. If you add China, suddenly it's not quite clear. Also, TA is barely behind Jurassic World without China, and the 2 so close together like this makes much more sense when you compare their numbers in all countries except China.
China's the RNG factor here when you really look at it. And it has benefited mainly movies from the last 2 years only.
Removing it gives a clearer picture of where movies stand, especially compared to movies older than 2012 (not shown on this list). This "modified" top 10 better showcases the "true" hype that those movies got worldwide. Was Furious 7 really as hyped as Avengers and Jurassic World, and more hyped than Harry Potter as well as Frozen? Did it have more, or any, impact than them? Not really, it didn't. It did on the all-time chart only because of China. #9 sounds a lot closer to where it belongs in terms of cultural impact after its run.
It also shows that Star Wars is really killing it worldwide, and should have no problems getting to Titanic's level when both are without China. It's already on JW and TA's level after 3 weeks.
And Avatar is pretty much out of reach, unless China shows up, and pulls a Furious 7 on Star Wars.
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All will depend on the holds post-holidays. Really hard to tell how they will shape up to be. It could drop massively, but then, it could also hold decent enough due to the hype.
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2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
How low could tomorrow go?
Both Avatar and Return of The King dropped 33% on their last sunday of the holidays, so I would say it will drop between 30 and 40% of Saturday number
So 20-25M. 20M would be a 42% drop.
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5 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:
I remember the initial release of Star Wars and I can assure you that it was the biggest movie of my experience, which goes back to 1974. Regardless of what the numbers say, in terms of sheer first-run cultural dominance, the biggest movies of the past 40 years are:
1) Star Wars
2) ET
3) Titanic
4) Jaws
And that's also what is singular about Titanic: It is the only movie in the past 30+ years that had the kind of run and cultural dominance that put it in the same class with Star Wars/Jaws/ET. Nothing else, not even Avatar, has been in the class. And within that class, Star Wars (1977) was the clear #1.
Indeed, what's happening right now with TFA is the direct product of this cultural phenomenon that was Star Wars in 1977. It made this all possible.
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Oh well, I hoped for more, but this is still a great number.
And, the week-end isn't over.
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My prediction:
F: 39M (+70%)
S: 40M (+1%)
Sn: 24M (-40%)
total: 103M
and then monday: 10M (-58%)
what I would like: A smoother drop on Sunday and better friday for a 107+ M week-end
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3 minutes ago, Obi-Wan Telemachos said:
He just means the first matinees will
be enough to pass JW because the two films are so close.
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9 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
Take a look at the exchange rates
WOW what a dive. Explains a lot.
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1 minute ago, The Panda Menace said:
Lol, 400k away from JW calendar year total. Dang it Disney.
Dang son. It looks as if they actually tried to make that miss
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So 22.7? I'm fine with that. Sadly it won't top Jurassic World for calendar year but, you know... can't have everything
edit: 22.7 according to Deadline **
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Anyway, I think we can all conclude that this movie has some real legs, even if these are the holidays, a movie of this magnitude with such staying power has never been seen before.
Just for this fact alone it's worth it to follow its progress.
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1 minute ago, rustyspoons89 said:
The thing is getting so much repeat business. All my co workers were talking about how many times they had each seen SW. (Average was 2-3 some had seen it 4 times) all have plans to continue seeing it. Nuts...
Unsurprisingly, that's what it takes to become the highest grossing movie of all time.
Which it will have domestically. Worldwide though... that's a whole other story.
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I've seen TFA 10 times and am just getting started. I saw TPM 53 times in theaters (50 on first release), AOTC 54, and ROTS 24 times. Not saying 8 is bad, but that's child's play for a Star Wars fan. Ha ha.
Weekend Actuals: The Force Awakens - 90.2M !!!
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21.2 puts it ahead of American Sniper.
I'm satisfied.