superweirdo87

the thriller is act 3 and the rom com is act 2 lol

Bo.com seems to be reporting different figures than The Numbers for Passengers...

So, Passengers might wind up 120M to 140M domestic? That's not great, but not bad.

Also, Pratt and J. Law came at a high price. They got 32M, and the movie might not open much higher. If having the two of them boosted tickets by 10M altogether, but they cost 32M, then that's not a great trade-off.

I don't know. It was original material with some controversial storytelling. So, it was not as sure a bet to not flop as The Hunger Games franchise, or Marvel, DC, adaptations, etc. Many actors do work in movies that turn out bad. But, some of them take pay cuts for material that is not a sure thing. It is also worth noting that with stardom, it is a serendipitous thing. A couple of bombs or underperformers, or a number of them and one can ggo from A-list to B-list.

@LonePirate, the DOR movies involved ensembles with several big names, and Joy cost 60M.

The storyline is driving the critical response, but I am totally with the critics. Jim took Aurora's life away from her. Even if he debated and was in a hard place, that's someone agency and their dreams. That choice and the way a movie treats it warrants scrutiny. If the movie conveyed the costs and tragedy that entailed, and did it so in a thoughtful and emotionally resonant way, that would be interesting and potentially powerful. But, "Chris Pratt was in a hard place, debated it, and it is all good fun" glosses over consent and morality.

First, Tele, I think you're right that avoiding gossip and fluff helps avoid the hate. Media coverage and tone factor in. It's fine for her to negotiate a good deal. But, demanding 20M is going to bring scrutiny and doing it on a risky project had the potential for negative blowback.

XMen is also how Jennifer Lawrence lost me too. Yeah, she exploded and didn't need the franchise anymore, but there were fans who loved the series including kids and she could have put forth some effort. I'm a big XMen fan, so that push me negative. J. Law had a big winning streak with THG, the D.O. Russell ensembles, and DOFP was well reviewed and did pretty well in there. I don't actively hate her, and she's clearly a talented actress, and I admired her stands on equal pay and the way she spoke out during her nude photo leak. That was strong and morally right. There have always been people who felt like J. Law was disrespectful. But, early on, her work stood out and it was exciting and new to have a celebrity who was not perfectionist and polished. And J. Law had a down to earth interview persona. The franchise performance cooled down and when J. Law was in other fare, it did not do so well, and the novelty of the real girl wore off and people became more suspicious of it. Some found some things Lawrence did less than endearing, like the Hawaiian rock. And her Hollywood entitlement showed in places. And then, there's the Passengers paycheck. One key thing here, is that Sony tried to give her less, but shee and her reps insisted on 20M and threatened to walk if they did not get it. That's a demand. And Lawrence chose to sign up for Passengers. Picking a role and demanding that kind of money is going to result in scrutiny. And it's looking like that's not going to work out well.

The reviews prompted me to see MATS. I loved it so much, though.

J. Law does have control over the roles she chooses, but Hollywood also offers her a lot of stuff, because they think she'll sell it, like the Addario memoir that would have been great for a 40 year old actress. Sony did not just offer her a 20M paycheck off the bat for Passengers to entice her. She and her reps demanded that paycheck. Jennifer Lawrence did say she was hesitant to sign on because I guess she wanted to bolster her image as a serious actress, but she was drawn to the story. http://www.vogue.com/13368193/jennifer-lawrence-december-2015-cover-hunger-games/ http://ew.com/article/2015/11/23/jennifer-lawrence-chris-pratt-passengers-cotton-candy/ Of course, you can never know and she would not say it was about the money. There was also the Fallon thing. But, she described herself as passionate and excited about the movie.

BO thinks this movie gets 30M opening weekend and 120 dom cume.

I think you can make the case for Damon, Denzel Washington, and sandy bullock in some material, but if I were a Hollywood executive, I would try for a lower upfront payment with a back end deal.

360 and 165 domestic would be 525 WW

Wow, suicide squad.

Why the fuck is Rth simply called a blockbuster? Given what he brings to BOT, he is like a $2B+ WW event or a franchise that gets 200M+ OW at the domestic box office.

But that movie did not have Damon. It is a slam dunk with money which is much more than you can say for many summer movies. 500M off of a 120M budget is really good.

STB 155-158 JB 165-170

175 was what Marvel indented to spend on 175, but it went over budget. The cost after tax credits was 195. But it was on the screen. I agree with your core point that while SS fares appreciably better than many movies with higher budgets (STID, STB, XMA, WWZ,, etc.), it does not seem like 175M is the price tag for what came on screen. Furthermore, the budget may have actually been higher.

There were people who thought that...before the reviews came out.

A lot of them are doing quite a bit of the decent live action business this summer. Did you like "Deadpool," though?

With the actual figures, that Friday to Friday is pretty rough.

At what point could WB get SS across the 300M milestone?

CA:CW, BvS, and XMA fell in the 50-60% range their 3rd weekend.

If you're right, SS will get knocked from #1 the way BvS kinda was.