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Looks like the Monsterverse will die soon. GvK will imho be another sub-200 DOM, sub 500-WW grosser. As fun as monster mashes can be, I honestly don't think you can build a blockbuster saga around them. You need strong human protagonists for the GA to relate to so they come back film after film. MCU's greatest asset, imho, has been its ability to build those likeable characters. WB, on the other hand, have failed miserably - or they simply haven't cared - to build those characters across the 3 Monsterverse films. I know, I know, Transformers, but heck, in that saga at least the creatures could talk. The human element is important even in SFX-driven extravaganzas.
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I'll go and say that I wasn't expecting much and Solo actually pleasantly surprised me. It was an unecessary movie, and a lot of the fanservice-y thing was really dull and felt like writers just going through a checklist (Han meets chewie! Han wins the Falcon! Han does the Kessel Run!) but they added enough interesting stuff (mainly, Clarke's and Harrelson's characters) that made the film not a complete waste. Can totally see why it bombed though, I'd have skipped it if I wasn't such a Star Wars fan.
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I was thinking just that. It will be a down year for Marvel, plus no Star Wars or Avatar. The drop in BO can be really bad. Of course there's always breakouts, but right now I'm not seeing anything reaching 500m DOM. Heck, we might even end up without a 400m film either (but I assume something will break out and reach that figure at least). Heck, I might go and make my first club once the release schedule becomes clearer.
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I can't see where the next 300m+ opener is going to come from (let alone snatching the record) until we accrue quite a few more years of inflation. EG is far from being a "new normal" of any kind regarding blockbusters. That said, my personal and completely unscientific benchmark for "blockbusterness" is whatever figure makes you almost certain to land in the Top 5 of a given year (obviously some years will be stronger than others), and it's true that 300m doesn't seem to cut it anymore (it won't this year and it hasn't since 2014). The new benchmark since to be around 350-400.
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€30m requires slightly better legs than IW, which did just a little under 3x over here. But it would be cool if the SH genre broke the glass ceiling they historically have had here (they do well, just not hugely well). I just caught a professor at the uni I work for discussing the movie with one of the employees at the cafeteria, which is pretty telling since this a pretty uptight conservative place.
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Thursday (04/25) Numbers - Captain Marvel #1
Celedhring replied to charlie Jatinder's topic in Numbers and Data
So CM has managed to get #1 49 days after release. This has inspired me to make a "latest day as #1" ranking (2002-). Setting a cut-off point at 30 days after release, I get: 1- My Big Fat Greek Wedding was on 147 days after release (that run was just incredible) 2 - Avatar, 77 days after release 3 - Frozen, 73 days after release 4 - PotC: Curse of the Black Pearl, 63 days after release 5 - Jumanji, 51 days after release 6 - Captain Marvel, 49 days after release 6 - American Sniper, 49 days after release 8 - Hidden Figures, 47 days after release 8 - Passion of the Christ. 47 days after release 10 - Black Panther, 41 days after release 11 - The Force Awakens, 38 days after release 12 - The Revenant, 35 days after release 13 -Paranormal activity, 33 days after release 14 - Return of the King, 30 days after release 15 - Zero Dark Thirty, 30 days after release What other films would make the ranking? I probably missed some superleggy film, or platform release that went wide like one month later. Incidentally Titanic last confirmed day at #1 was April 2nd, 1998, after 107 days of release. But BOM weekday data has lots of holes for that era, so I can't say for sure that was the last (the reason for picking 2002- films, besides limiting the frame). -
It's such a pity though. Some of those movies are wonderful and they deserve to be seen more - and not in a snotty "watch this thing that will bore you just because critics say it's great" way, the movies are very enjoyable and emotional, but for some reason they just don't catch on. I guess stop-motion just doesn't appeal to the GA, can't really chalk it all to poor distribution/marketing. Kubo is one of my favorite animated movies ever.
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Shazam has bomber over here, unsurprisingly (it was dumped by WB), and it will struggle to reach €5m (for sake of comparison, Aquaman did nearly €14m in Spain). Conversely, Dumbo is doing great; it's fallen less than 20%. Easter Holidays will cut off legs (moviegoing slows considerably as people travel), but it's poised to gross in the middle €10s. It has already surpassed Cinderella, although it won't match Jungle Book or BATB.
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Us is really well filmed and scripted though - one of those excruciatingly planned films where everything on screen eventually is there for a reason. It's a much more confident film than Get Out, and despite its controversial storytelling (it really asks a lot from the audience in regard of suspension of disbelief) it really makes me feel Peele is far more than a "lightning in a bottle" kind of filmmaker. Really looking forward to his body of work.
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The marketing here was awful, I tell you. It had DUMP written all over it. The film is called "Shazam: Trainee superhero" (in Spanish) over here. When they make up these awful localised titles (rest assured, Captain Marvel wasn't "Captain Marvel: Kickass blonde" nor Aquaman was "Aquaman: Khal Drogo learns to swim") is always a sure tell of absolute lack of confidence in the movie.
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It seems to be doing pretty badly over here (no #s yet, just anecdotal evidence of empty screenings). The marketing made it feel like a dumped film nobody should care about, and people seem to have got the message. Which is a pity. It's strange, since even though Spain is not a big superhero market (Marvel films do well, but not nearly as well as in other places) it is a huge family market, and this looked like a way to scratch the family and superhero itches in one go. Then again, Warner Spain (which are extreme tightwads) probably chose not to try to risk their marketing euros selling a complete unknown character. It's a fun film, deserved better.
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Us has one of the better scripts (as in, purely from a craftmanship aspect, not going into whether the story itself is compelling or not) I have ever seen in a horror movie. The way it sets things up and reuses them later, hides details, etc... is amazing. I really want to watch it again because I feel there's barely a wasted moment. Even what feels like throwaway stuff becomes key later on. I'm in love with it. Happy that it's making so much money, we need more successful original films.