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53 minutes ago, Willowra said:
I agree with you, Feige has made Spider-Man bigger than even Avengers by ignoring Avengers franchise in phase 4 & 5. Spider-Man drags down every project that comes close to it. Shang-Chi, Eternals, and Matrix were released close to NWH, and NWH took audiences away from all these movies. Two of these three flopped, and SC barely broke even. The same story repeated itself again in 2023, with SV released close to TLM, Transformers, and The Flash, dragging down all these movies. Even a Batman movie will flop or underperform if WB releases it close to a Spider-Man movie.
GotG3 just released 5 weeks ago and it still became a hit bro…. And will finish above SV WW.
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I guess it’s between GotG and Mi7 now to win the year for Hollywood in Korea, isn’t it?
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So Transformers and the Flash both lack of PLFs for their OW. Any idea what movie will be getting all the PLF during their OW?
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Just saw it. It’s good actually. Probably my third favorite transformers after Fallen and Dark Side of the Moon. Full of actions and it’s quite good even though not as big, grand and epic in scale as Fallen, Dark Side and Age of extinction. No more shaky cams. More focused on the robots than humans. Not much of cringe human interactions like in Bayformers. Also more emotional.
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“It’s Flash review time!!!!”
*checking this thread to see the early reviews*
*running out of the thread immediately to avoid incoming and unavoidable mess*
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Wonder Woman is peak DCEU. Joker is peak DC after DCEU. Aquaman still belongs in the good film category of DCEU tho.
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On 6/4/2023 at 4:06 AM, keysersoze123 said:
Transformers numbers look bad for T-2. What a drop for the franchise !!!! 1st 2 movies sold over 7m admits if I am not wrong. Back at mojo the Korea thread used to be owned by a hardcore Transformer fanboy. in the 2007 May fight between 3 biggies(SM3, Shrek k 3 and Pirates 3), he was confident Transformers will be the biggest winner among all of them. In terms of budget to BO he was not wrong 🙂
Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon even broke the opening weekend record here. So what a drop indeed.
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2 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
What are BOT projections for OS weekend? Don't care for Deadline, etc cause they are all shit. The movie didn't open proper yesterday and they already called that it would be domestic heavy and miss 700M WW.
Charlie said 100-110M OS OW. Would be lower than Dom OW. While trade projections about it missing 700M WW maybe wrong, the domestic heavy one seems true albeit not as heavy as TLM. Probably will end up around 55/45.
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1 hour ago, KP1025 said:
First one grossed $63 million in China, so that final forecast would be disappointing given the exceptional reviews. Mario also ended up around $25 million in China despite excellent ratings.
China isn’t *that* big market for Hollywood like it used to. So it’s normal I guess.
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1 hour ago, YSLDC said:
Lowering my prediction to 110/350 domestic. It seems that WOM will need to come from opening weekend
June and July will be a bloodbath and Flash is a CBM film. Ain't no way it's gonna have 3.2 Multiplier.
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Hoping this can be as good as WW and Joker. Or at least entertaining like Aquaman.
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I love Godzilla 2014. Made with human POV. Great at building up tension and the suspense is reallll. Not a lot of fight but always made me in the edge of my seat about what would happen if Godzilla was real. How scary it would be from my POV. Keeping Godzilla mysterious, nuance, subtle and not too exposed also makes it unique film. Different from KotM and GvK which have the action spectacle aspect but nothing feels special to me. Probably I already used to see giant creatures fighting all out like in other Godzilla movies or other franchises like Transformers, Jurassic etc.
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7 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said:
I really do hope Snow White gets cancelled and Disney can focus on making new and innovative movies then cheap knock offs that don't work. The live action remake buzz has died as quick as the dystopia buzz died with Hunger Games despite them till this day trying to push Dystopian stories.
They’ll never do that. They’ll keep creating new remakes, sequels or some other Disney classic stories even though they underperformed at box office. I think the main reason isn’t for the box office profit but more like new merchandises, future content on online apps/Disney+ and other external entertainment profits outside box office. Kinda like what Pixar did with Cars trilogy.
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Disney’s box office future looking bleak. Almost all their IPs are damaged now.
- Marvel brand has weakened. Not strong as it used to. Too inconsistent and need to have string of good films to earn the audiences back.
- Lucasfilm: Star Wars is on halt and maybe won’t come again to cinema for the next 4-5 years and no more Indi, the final adventure will release this year and also not looking good.
- WDAS is on life support with hattrick of flops (Encanto, Raya and strange world). Frozen 3 and Moana 2 can’t come soon enough.
- 20th Century never release blockbuster movie under Disney. Many are flops and middle hit at best.
- They are running out of Live Action remakes story. Next are Snow White with many controversies surrounding it.
- Pixar is dead.
The only thing still shines bright is Avatar. But it only come once in two years.
Disney probably needs to rely more on original films like the upcoming Haunted Mansions.It’s amazing how much has changed since 2019 when Disney seemed to monopolize the film industry with their tremendous success. One pandemic and here we are.
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It’s between Fast X, Flash and Mi7 imo to win the year here in Indonesia. (Among Hollywood movies, not good at analyzing local movies).
Fast X will probably stop at $15-16M.
Flash has a small probability to top if it indeed one the best SH oat and has good wom. But still a long shot given the only DC titles to ever cross $15M here is Aquaman.
Fallout did around $11M and maybe with an optimistic increase, Mi7 could pass Fast X.
ATSV won’t even pass $10M I guess.
The Marvels will probably end up around GotG $10M+.
no chance for the rest.
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12 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
Mermaid is last hope in Japan. Or else Disney will disappear as MCU can't produce numbers like Star War/Jurassic World and even Fast Numbers
What a tough time Disney is having in Japan because of their policies.
Star Wars also Disney. So maybe SW is the last hope for Disney in Japan.
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Finally, a Star Wars conversation.
You can't have one of the worst weekend thread of all time without it.
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Just now, Last Man Standing said:
On other news, Elemental is flopping at Cannes. What did Disney do to Pixar?
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2 minutes ago, Day and Date The Best said:
Some people... thought Top Gun Maverick would not reach what it reached so.????
But Maverick did it with $700M came from Dom. Do you think Mi:7 will reach those figures while Mi6 Fallout only earned $220M Dom? MI7 basically needs to triple its predecessor’s gross in US.
or Are you expecting something like $450M Dom (doubling Fallout which is also almost impossible) and $1.1B OS? The OS figures needs to be the same like No Way Home which fueled by nostalgia and hype.
I think you’re just daydreaming and need some sleep.
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24 minutes ago, JpTransformers said:
320 million worldwide for Transformers? Isn't this an underrated prediction given that the film has a wide international market?
Transformers is dead sadly. Only miracle can save it. Sandwiched between ATSV and Flash.
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Predictions for current blockbuster
GotG 3 will end with $365M Dom, $850M WW
Fast X with $140M Dom, $680M WW
Mermaid $290-$310M , $520-550M WW
for rest of summer:
ATSV $120 OW, $320-340M total, low $700M WW
Transformers probably $45M OW and low $120M total, $320M WW
Flash $80M OW, low 200M Dom and low $600M WW
Indi $100M OW, $250M Dom, $700M WW
Barbie $50M OW, $130M DOM, $430M WW
Oppenheimer $65M OW, $210M Dom, $550-580M WW
MI7 $110 OW, $300M Dom, $880-900M WW
The Meg $60M OW, $150-170 Dom, $640-660M WW
Blue Beetle $45M OW, $120 Dom, $300M WW
Elemental $40M OW, 120 Dom, high $200M WW
Haunted Mansion $50M OW, $120-140M DOM, low $300M WW
Insidious $25M OW, $55M Dom, 150M WW
gran Turismo $35M OW, 90M Dom, 200M WW
TMNT $40M OW, 100M Dom, $230-250M WW
DOM:
1. GotG 3
2. ATSV
3. Mermaid
4. Mi7
5. Indi
6. Flash
WW:
1. Mi7
2. Gotg3
3. ATSV
4. Indi
5. Fast X
6. Meg
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'Asian beauty standard' kills this movie at least in Asia. We all know that pale or white skin is the epitome of beauty in Asia and black certainly isn't. Even more so when you remember that this is a Disney Princess movie which make the beauty aspect of main lead (Princess Ariel) to be a pivotal one. TLM animation was popular here and changing Ariel appearance in the live action remake from the og animation definitely hurt it further.
Not to mention that Asia as a whole region hasn't been kind to black community or you could say there are many cases of racism here. No wonder TLM fails completely here. The popularity of the first one couldn't save this movie.
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The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other
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The audience score is meaningless this early. Probably most of them are hardcore DC fans who showed up for fan screenings. Need to wait until Friday to see how GA react and how the movie will be received by the audiences. But hey, at least those early DC fans loved it and the RT critics score still steady even increased a little bit. Any positivity for Flash is welcomed.