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  1. Marvel and Kevin Feige should be commended for basically building a franchise from nothing to becoming one of biggest franchises in the world. The astonishing thing is that with the rate the MCU movies are getting cranked out,the franchise is getting more popular and slowly coverting cauals into fans. Even my wife who’s not a comic book movie fan at all dug IW a lot and now onboard with the MCU.
  2. lol.... I didn’t literally mean “nobody” (should of used another word) but some were skeptical and thought it would drop from CW, not AOU. CW’s performance really skewed some people’s opinion on IW’s potential.
  3. I find it hilarious that some members a few months ago ignored all of the massive social media numbers and were seriously trying to push this idea that no one wants to see this movie, it’s looks horrible, no one cares because Civil War was an Avenger movie did Iron Man 3 numbers, blah blah... This movie may not break the OW but it going to get much closer than most thought a year ago.
  4. While I do think IW will get a slight bump from BP and open over 200M OW, there’s no chance of it having the type of legs required to top it DOM. I think the ceiling for IW is around 500M DOM but at the end it won’t matter much as it will make up any difference OS. Marvel will win big with both movies DOM and WW.
  5. I think another part of it depends on the marketing. The JL marketing was very muted. There was little to no hype at all. It was just there. It almost felt like WB had no confidence in the movie. Of course, I wouldn’t have thought it would lead to a possible sub 100M opening. I thought the brand was strong enough to have a good opening.
  6. Wow, this is one of the most shocking box office results I’ve seen in a long time. Who would of thought this movie more than likely not just match Thor 3 but may be around or even be lower than Thor 2? A Justice League film possibly fudging to get over 100M opening weekend is just, WOW...
  7. As others have said 1994 was a beast year. Just a couple thoughts... Forrest Gump - I vividly remember its box office run and it was just shocking at the time. Mostly because Tom Hanks wasn't seen as a box office draw at the time. It was a movie that just kept making money week after week. Easily in the top 5 box office runs I've ever seen. It was so against the grain of the typical movie that dominated a summer. Pulp Fiction - As a John Travolta fan, I've never been so happy to see an actor bounce back. The media really hyped up Travolta but I enjoyed Samuel Jackson's performance a little bit more. As Baumer stated, the cast was great. The Marvin scene is one of the funniest in cinema history.
  8. As other posters have said, 1993 was a very good year for big and small movies. Here's some quick notes of movies that stood out for me: Tombstone - There was a rush between this movie and Kevin Costner’s Wyatt Earp to get released first. Tombstone was first and the superior movie. True Romance - One of my favorite movies in the early 90's. This made me pay attention to Quentin Tarantino even though he was just involved with the screenplay. I became a Gary Oldman fanboy from this movie. How has Oldman not won an Oscar yet??? Sister Act 2 - I recently rewatched it for the first time since 1993. I remember enjoying it back then but it didn't hold up very well. This was a huge decline from the first movie box office wise (136M to 57M). Enjoyed Lauren Hill’s (before the Fugees) performance in it though. Demolition Man - Being a Sly Stallone and Wesley Snipes fanboy at the time. I remember being hyped with the movie's potential. The movie ended up being alright, didn't live up to the hype. Menace II Society - Another one of my favorites from the early 90's. In my opinion, it's on par with Boyz in the Hood. It's held up well over the years. Jason Goes to Hell - Maybe one of the worst horror movies I've ever been. Do not remember a thing about it. Poetic Justice – There was some hype with being John Singleton's follow-up to Boyz in the Hood. I think it was a solid effort but audiences were generally let down. Also, Janet Jackson is a very bad actress. The Crush - This movie is a very fun and cheesy. It's crazy that Alicia Silverstone didn't have much of a career after Batman and Robin. What's Love Got to Do with It - This movie did that All Eyez on me failed to do. Make a biographical movie that is engaging with great performances from Larry Fishburne and Angela Bassett as Ike and Tina Turner.
  9. I think the number of characters could be problematic but no one knows if it will be an issue until it premieres. It could be a huge plus with the huge scope or a huge clusterfuck. But Marvel is able to take that risk with the goodwill from the GA. With Venom, Sony just needs to make a good comic book movie. The recent output was awful, so stacking characters into an origin movie is very risky. Adding characters also could take screen time from Venom. Just imagine if WW had added Tigress as a villain. Now, the movie would of needed to explain her character which would of probably taken screen time from Diana/Steve which is a very important dynamic.
  10. Agreed. It was a very fun movie. I remember this was Arnold's first starring movie after T2 and there was a lot of rumblings and rumors that the movie wasn't going to be good prior to release. But since Arnold was the biggest movie star at the time there was some optimism that the movie would overcome this. Unfortunately, no. I think this was the turning point in his career that he never quite recovered form. Before this, he had a nice streak of classics. He did have True Lies a couple of years later but it just wasn't the same in my eyes. It was up and down from here.
  11. Agreed, Batman 89 was massive. There was nothing like it ever at the time with the movie, music and merchandising all at the same time. I think it was the first movie where the toy companies were involved early in the production. Which is pretty standard today. It was the also first movie to hit home video under 6 or so months at an affordable price (under $30). Before then it took months or even years for movies on VHS to be cheap enough for purchase.
  12. These threads always go to shit with the Marvel vs. DC bullshit. People take this shit too seriously. I'm here for the analysis of the weekend and I'm seeing my movie or actor is so much more awesome than yours. WTF The funny thing is that the studios actually don't care about the rivalry all that much. They just want to make money. Plus the producers and actors seem to be all on friendly terms.
  13. I think Spider-Man's biggest issue is that it's the 6th movie from the character with three bad movies. That will have some type of effect. I doubt most in the GA know the difference between the Sony and MCU movies. If Transformers franchise suddenly has a well-received movie, it's probably not going to jump to 400M DOM, it's going to take some time to build up the goodwill. WW is character that's been around to the GA since the 70's from the Super Friends cartoon and of course the Lynda Carter show. So you have over 40 years of people waiting for a WW movie. The performance is reminiscent of Batman 89 and Spider-Man 1 with built up demand of a popular comic book character. WW was the last iconic comic book character to not have a movie and the book office results is showing it. I'm certain if Captain Marvel had come out with the same exact reception, it would make 150M less from WW just simply because the character not being all that iconic. Black Panther could do great and overperform but it would be due to social reasons and the movie serving an under represented audience more than the actual character. Spider-Man is doing great for Sony. But right now, it's Wonder Woman's time.
  14. 1987 for me was one of the best years for movies in my lifetime. Some of the movies were very simple plot-wise and predictable but had magic that is generally missing from a lot of major releases today. Below is my list for 1987: 1. Fatal Attraction 2. Lethal Weapon 3. Robocop 4. Hollywood Shuffle 5. Raw 6. Overboard 7. Dirty Dancing 8. Predator 9. Street Smart 10. Summer School 11. Full Metal Jacket 12. Running Man 13. Raising Arizona 14. Less Than Zero 15. Stepfather 16. LaBamba 17. Space Balls 18. Witches of Eastwick 19. Lost Boys 20. Empire of the Sun 21. Adventures of Babysitting 22. Monster Squad 23. Some Kind of Wonderful 24. Last Emperor 25. Good Morning, Vietnam Lowest-rated movies of 1987 for me: 1. Revenge of the Nerds II 2. Teen Wolf Too 3. Jaws: Revenge 4. Superman IV: The Quest for Peace 5. Who's That Girl
  15. In my mind, the loonie in me says in locked for 400M. The movie is simply doing too well to suddenly just stop like that. Spider-Man will slow its momentum down a little but there's really nothing else after that (including Dunkirk) to really put much of a dent into it. As Redfirebird2008 mentioned, number of screens will be an issue but I think it will hold on to enough to get just over 400M.
  16. Agreed. I'm African-American and I've been awaiting for a big budget predominantly black cast. It's never happened before. That is something that could help the movie break out big with the GA in the US. I think Coming to America is still the highest grossing movie with an all black cast (others say the movie is Waiting to Exhale since the director is black). These are movies that are over 20 years old, so it really stands out as a movie (not just for comic book movies). The key is how Marvel decides to market the movie. Hopefully it is unique. Of course, the movie also has to deliver.
  17. I've read the book and highly recommend it. The subject matter is disturbing but a must read to get a clear picture of the horrors of American slavery.
  18. This sucks because I was excited to this movie. Dude sounds like a scary asshole. If Denzel Washington's "Fences" is any good, I fully expect that movie to quietly push this movie to the background as one of the the Oscar favorites.
  19. I think the biggest issue with Civil War is that even if you're a huge Marvel fan, you could easily skip it and wait for home video. CW is like a TV mid-season finale, not a season ending finale. I think it may make sense for Marvel to do a soft reboot after IW to make MCU future movies more GA friendly in Phase 4.
  20. I'm not a huge Trekkie or anything like that but did enjoy ST '09 and ST:ID. When STB teaser had Sabotage in it, I was immediately turned off. It just came off as desperate. After that, I had no real desire to watch the movie. I'll catch it on Blu-ray in a few months.
  21. I think its because comic book movies tend to have inflated trailer views, social media activity and pre-sales compared to other genres. With the pre-sales and social media actvity seemingly always improving over the previomy comic book movie, it always leads to unrealistic expectations of BO performance. Even with good reviews, I think SS was always destined to be frontloaded. Poteintally bad WOM just makes it worse.
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