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What the shrek happend to KFP4 this weekend? Unter 100% jump on Friday and under 50% on saturday? Did I miss something?

Civil War is a perfect example of a movie being released at the right time. I wouldn't be surprised at all, if this broke out really, really big.

$52m with a 18,4m Friday? Yeah, no, should try a little higher...

18,5m would obviously lock 60m, but it would be incl. previews. Would still be a great number. It's march after all and this could come close to $60m even with only 14,7m true Friday.

I guess the Netflix Series made up for the big gap between movies. And still a thing: Families are desperate for new material. It's ridiculous, how Hollywood gave up on pretty much 2 quadrants, when they shipped kids movies and women material to Netflix. Not to mention, how a 4Q-Genre, comedy, was completely slaughtered and neglected.

Jurassic City? Oh dear. Still not able to get rid of a couple of dinosaurs? I just hate where this franchise is going. It used to have inner logic, Even Dinosuars in the City in Lost World was okay in that univers. But losing control over dinosaurs, after a hand ull broke free in JW2? Give me a break...

One thing to keep in mind for the panda is the fact, that it had a hard time being trailered in theaters for at least a month now with only Wonka and Migration keeping the family movie on life support. That's for sure something unusual. So maybe that lack of awareness will be made up by better legs, especially due to the fact, that the Panda is the only life support until Garfield opens in more than 2 months.

Well, theater owners should care, because admits sell popcorn and soft drinks. There will be a breaking point, when higher premium-prices won't make up for the loss of admissions.

Happy with the numbers, but from a theater owners perspective it's still quite baffling, that that's basically half of an audience, an average 2010-movie drew with an $80m-opening. Even 5 Nights at freddys will end up with more admissions on OW.

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That's one of the greatest Trailers in years, honestly. I literally got goosbumps watching it. I hiope it does really, really well, but I feel like that's a movie that should have opened in winter for some reason. Could have been a great option opver christmas or the holidays in Jan/Feb.

We were expecting a breakout for part 2 and that one never happened, despite the first one being a pretty nice and charming movie. So why would it break out, when the series dropped from movie to movie? But Dreamworks is a quite weird case overall. How to train your Dragon didn't break out. Madagascar topped the franchise with the worst part, while the second even dropped from the first.

I hope this is when people finally understand the difference, that pretty much all Netflix Romcoms (with some exceptions especially in the teen-department) are horribly written, lazy and pretty much always lack chemistry. Ticket to Paradise or ABY are great reminders, that even if the story is not oscar worthy, a great couple of actors with charme and chemistry just make a good time at the theaters.

And that one had Dwayne Johnson only a couple of weeks after Fast 7 reached the prime of the franchise...

I can totally see why Twisters would only do $50m total.

Well, It depends. I just had a random look into 2013. It turned out to have the following movies in Summer: Iron Man 3 Despicable Me 2 Man of Steel Monsters University Fast 6 Star Trek into Darkness World War Z The Heat We're the Millers (Yeah, Comedy was a thing back then!) The Great Gatsby The Conjuring Grown Ups 2 Wolverine Now you See me The Butler Hangover 3 Epic Pacific Rim This is the End And that's only Movies doing $100m. I had a look at my personal prediction for 2013 in December 2012, and it looked like this (summer Movies in bold) 1 425 Iron Man 3 2 350 Die Tribute von Panem 2 3 325 Ich - Einfach unverbesserlich 2 3 325 Der Hobbit 2 5 300 Star Trek 2 5 300 Man of Steel 7 260 Die Monster Uni 8 200 Gravity 8 200 Thor 2 10 185 Fast & Furious 6 11 175 Epic 11 175 The Wolverine 11 175 White House Down 13 165 Die Croods 14 160 Frozen 15 155 G.I. Joe 2 16 150 Die zauberhafte Welt von Oz 16 150 Hangover 3 16 150 The End of the World 16 150 Cloudy 2 16 150 The Heat 16 150 After Earth So as you can see, i went with 13 movies crossing $150m that summer. Obviously, I was off by quite a bit on some, quite good on others. Looking at 2024 thoug, well, I really struggle to even find 5 movies I see crossing $150m with confidence. Those would be Deadpool 3, Despicable Me 4, Furiosa and Inside Out 2 and maybe Bad Boys 4, but I wouldn't bet my house on that one. Garfield would be a good bet as well, but am I certain? No, not really. That's why 2024 is different from everything we knew by quite a margin. It's a lack of movies, paired with a lack of sequels, that leaves a pretty uncertain future. As I said, it leaves a path for excitement and surprises, but all the Unknowns have to deliver. And there is no much room for failure.

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That's pretty optimistic. All of 2024 is going to be different from what we knew. The only twist a year like this could bring, is lots of surprises, that might be exciting to spot via tracking.

I don't get it. 14 years ago, top 4 movies pulled $70m on CD with WAY lower ATP. Shows are selling out left and right, and still the Top movies only generate barely $50m in 2023? Jesus, even Into the Woods smashed $15m on CD. TCP looked so much bigger... I think we have a huge shift from matinee and late shows to only the prime time showtimes, I have no other explanantion. Just seems like the old magical days of BO wonder are past us. And yes, $16m is still great.

Ruling out $275 Mio for Wonka is quite odd, when Jumanji 2 multiplier already puts it at $211 Mio. I guess Puss in Boots 2 was a pretty good example of what is possible with a completely deserted first 2 months in terms of kids movies.

I'm not sure. TCP has way more potential to reach a wider audience with its approach over christmas. Les Miserables is a huge downer, while TCP will leave the audience most probably on a way more positive note.

Finally a winner. We urgently need that.

I'm not sure about "Wish". That Song in the Trailers sounds pretty promising and catchy and we know how a great Sountrack can carry such a movie. We'll see. The schedule is obviously the biggest nonsense in ages, with Trolls and Wish opening back to back while October is deserted in terms of kids movies.

Trolls 3 has pretty much no overlap with FNAF, even if that one does 50m 2nd WE, it doesn't matter. Wish opening the week after is a way bigger issue and I actually can't believe that they gave up on a schedule that worked out perfectly fine in the past with Drreamworks opening early in November/End of October and Disney opening over TG.

Frozen was the movie that marked the comeback of musicals as something cool. They desperately tried to hide any musical stuff, especially with Tangled before. They probably had no Idea that that problematic movie was the big turning point, but for some reason they thought, that marketing it that way was the reason for the movies success and did the same with Frozen to attract boys as well. The rest is history. After that, musicals were everywhere, animated and real. I hope Wish marks the comeback of Disney away from Disney+.