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November 17th

I agree that’s an awful idea even though I think SM4 is 2026. They fundamentally can’t do 4 films a year and think they’ll adjust again. I was referring to moreso after Secret Wars though.

Yeah no Omicron, Sing 2 probably does well over 200m, maybe even topping the first.

Think Wish can still do well. Presales seem healthily above Elemental (though ATP and discount Tuesday needs adjusting to figure out how well), the marketing campaign did a strong 180 and reactions seem to be pretty good. If reviews match reaction, I think a 60/200 (5 day/DOM) is possible. Wonka seems likely to be a strong 180-250m hit and Migration can still breakout.

I mean there’s been no Star Wars movies since Skywalker. Not saying no movies at all but Secret Wars acts a finale for Marvel history in 2027 (more likely 2028 tbh), they take a gap year and maybe release a few shows in the past time and an animated movie coproduction with either Disney or Pixar, comeback 2029 with a hard reboot starting with X-Men as the face. If they manage to save face this phase and next (granted think the MCU will have a far lower ceiling ie numbers will look more like Phase 1 barring Avengers), they’ll likely continue with soft reboot but focus on a few main faces and try to rebuild. Think it’s clear if they want event status again, they can really only do 2-3 projects a year. It’s best to truck along and trim any unnecessary fat they can until Avengers.

Oh yeah in that case not likely.

Isn’t it like at 950m or 975m? Haven’t followed the OS run.

I thought they’re doing a rerelease next month?

In fairness there’s still unresolved Infinity Saga post credits (Mordo’s no more sorcerers, Scorpion, etc) and movies still had a longer gap for them to be solved but it was two to three movies and just that, and had a core group of members to focus on. The MCU is in its DCEU era. Eternals was the Man of Steel, MoM was the BvS and Quantumania was the JL. Deadpool 3 might be the Aquaman as it should be a big hit and the Avengers movies, X-Men and F4 should be hits which is something the DCEU lacked post Aquaman but honestly think they can’t correct the ship the way things are right now. It just feels for the GA at the enough is enough point. Oversaturation is what’s deeply hurt the MCU. Maybe they can turn it around Phase 5-6, but it just feels like the GA has had enough. Superhero films are basically what happened to the animation film industry after the CGI boom, unless you offer something special, have a big brand and/or are great, you likely won’t be a success due to oversaturation. As for Cinematic universes, unsure but I’m not entirely sure they’re dead either as I think Gunn’s DCU with a great Superman could bring life into the genre. Think Feige already has a plan Either Feige does a hard reboot after Secret Wars which will be treated as a Marvel finale and takes an actual break a few years after SW maybe doing some shows or an animated movie or two in the meantime, go the soft reboot path and cut what’s not working right now and roughing it out until SW which is something I suspect he’s doing now with a small break after SW but only doing 2-3 projects a year post SW or just go gung-ho on just doing series out of a few franchises but they’re completely seperate.

They’ll find some way to stop it like them conveniently being trapped in a cave during the World Wars. They’ll be too busy at the time helping Gru through college.

Seems kind of obvious this is where the future of the franchise is heading. The next few DM movies will likely be legacyquels (with this one being Vector’s return and the girls growing up), with likely the middle kid (Edith?) taking up Gru’s villainous legacy in future films while the Minions movies will be about Gru growing up alongside the Minions.

Guessing this short will be attached to Migration, but called it.

Couldn’t we use Ninja Turtles as a comparison? There should be some comparisons right around this time as both would have more or less the same amount of PLFs and a similar ATP. And even then so long as it’s outpacing Elemental to a fair degree, that should indicate 2M should be in the cards for previews even with EA. Out of curiosity couldn’t we compare Elemental’s opening Friday to Wish’s opening Wednesday (not like including previews but just the days themselves), feel like that’s still outpacing Elemental?

Any idea on how Trolls and Wish are looking?

These are fair points as well, but DP3 buzz has been very strong so far. I agree that MCU goodwill was burned out by Ant-Man 3 being the backbreaking straw (like JL from Whedon in the DCEU) but the fandom seems more or less ecstatic about Jackman returning and I do think the satirizing of superheroes that Deadpool does may click more due to how fatigued the GA is, in way could be a breathe of fresh air. Like pretty sure most Fox-Men characters will be set up for a big death like in Deadpool 2.

Honestly think F4 should be right after Deadpool vs Cap. That has a far higher ceiling and the director really seems to be a huge fan of the material. If that cooks especially with the F4 being likely to be a new mainstay face of Marvel, Phase goodwill can creep back somewhat. I don’t feel Shawn Levy can make a critically lauded film but I suspect the General Audience will love it, especially with the likely nostalgia pandering that helped NWH with Wolverine.

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Dude might cook for this one. A great DP3 won’t fully get the tracks running because at this point Marvel is way more pick and choose than even Phase 1-2 but add in a great F4, things might be back. Honestly think F4 should be right after Deadpool than Cap, especially because those introduce new multiverse faces. I mean, they got the fact that The Marvels was a mess and the overall production schedule is messy right but we knew the latter beforehand.

Deadpool 3 is basically the litmus test of the saga. If it’s good, the MCU is good. If it’s bad then it’s truly joever, because the MCU for fans was supposed to improve on the Fox stuff.

I like people act as if Shuri will replace T’Challa when we know damn well come Secret Wars either his older son or a multiversal variant will replace him. The ending of Wakanda Forever writes that out with a Sharpie lol.

I honestly don’t get why they’re doing four films next year even with it being highly likely something gets pushed back. If they’re trying to stop content overload, I don’t think four films that year is the right move. Deadpool 3 should be big but got a feeling it’ll be more akin to NWH/WF/Guardians in that it’ll be big but not enough to drive hype for the others.

Honestly. Especially if mystery WDAS 2024 does turn out to be Zootopia 2.

On one hand, I think this is fundamentally a project that no one wants as while people like Mufasa and Scar - it’s not enough to drive traffic especially after a mediocre movie and can have a similar drop as Alice 2/The Marvels but Christmas should help it not completely fall off a cliff and with Disney, they’ll likely strongarm PLFs and IMAX to choose it over Sonic 3 and should on paper be something to skew more towards the GA as talking animals sell. At minimum, a similar drop to The Marvels (guessing around 250m WW) puts Mufasa at 385m which is just a few cents shy of Sonic 2’s gross. And who knows maybe Barry Jenkins made something special, think a trailer like “From Academy Award winner” is a good sell. Think a good comparison for this is how much Aquaman 2 drops. Shot in the dark number before a trailer: 45m/165m/450m

Domestic Again provided reactions are good tonight.