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Yeah tbh I’m not as confident on the sequels either. Not only is there a committee feel but one mediocre sequel and the GA loses trust. Maybe Pixar and WDAS can find a way to make cheaper films. Whether that’s outsourcing to Canada or Europe for originals or reusing assets.

Because non of the other animations had their studios have a go to streamer or as big. I do think original animation has diminished since the pandemic but I do think the Plus has also been having an effect on Disney animation arms because it’s a bigger streaming service.

This whole situation irritates me because all Disney had to do for this to decently succeed other than a different marketing strategy was to move this. Who cares if they never get mid June and Thanksgiving back, you lost that as soon as you moved animation to the plus and devalued the brands and competitors already are moving in on your territory. Now all the other stuff like Elio, Wish, and the other originals will face immense bullying from their spots because Disney didn’t do the common sense thing.

Yeah, reviews skewing more Monsters University and Onward. This is the final nail in the coffin to gain box office momentum. Think it’ll have enough juice for 100m domestic/250m worldwide but that’s about it.

Atom is a meme account.

Presales are indicating 17m+ previews with a solid chance at 130m OW.

So with Across likely to be the Shrek 2 of the 2020s, I’m pretty sure after Beyond, we get the spin-offs. Totally betting that Spider-Gwen, Spider-Woman and Silk movie is going to be fast tracked for 2027.

It’s going to be wild that two of the biggest opening weekends this year will be animated movies. That’s so great.

Interestingly enough the runtime for Across is the same. I am curious if Elemental, Gillman and Ninja Turtles can benefit from shorter runtimes.

In an unrelated note, it seems more and more likely Across the SpiderVerse is overperforming and likely to be a major smash for Sony Animation. Makes me wonder when they’ll do a slate update as they could easily build a brand for themselves. From the people who bought you “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” is a huge sell as the film is the 2010s version of Toy Story/Shrek. They have Fixed, K-Pop Demon Hunters and a bunch of originals in the wings and could be big theatrically. If I were Sony, I’d try to get the new Garfield movie by The Emperor’s New Groove people under the Sony Animation label next year even if the studio didn’t produce it (they did it for Goosebumps, Peter Rabbit and the Aardman movies).

Missed some discussion but I don’t get even with Across looking likely to have a strong OW potentially the biggest for a CBM this year (ie like 130m+), would it cause TLM to drop big. Sure both are big family films but TLM likely will skew more female and younger and domestic WOM seems good. A 50-55% drop sure but I think 60% is a stretch.

This is pretty good tbh. They should also try to muscle in a fan screening in the next few weeks before OW. Let WOM spread.

I don’t get why L&S isn’t theatrical. It’s the most popular of the 2000s animation. A remake could easily do 300m domestic and 400m overseas.

Yeah the bare minimum is like 150m domestic/400m worldwide for Elemental to keep Wish safe from Trolls 3 and Elio from KFP4. Anything lesser, and the non-sequels stuff and more riskier sequels will get regularly bullied by tentpoles in their spots. Not from either animation arms, a nostalgic remake with significant adult buzz, has actual interest from the GA unlike either 2023 animations.

so Fantastic Four should be doomed by that logic yes?

Because NWH had every live action Spider-Man in it. This was a reboot that was a few years after a not so well received rendition. Homecoming did 117m and Begins did around 75m for the five day. Not everyone has the Batman franchise must debut with 150-200m to be a hit like you do. That point of 50% of the Batman for BA is still very fair.

I mean a 130m OW for a Batman reboot isn’t surprising and still very good, and Bond was in the middle of a pandemic. 100/300m for Flash is great and more or less would’ve done about the same pre-pandemic.

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Tbh I doubt Beetlejuice 2 or Blade will make 9/6. September animation does solid so it should do 100m+ considering the IP domestically. The question is what is the 9/27 Dreamworks movie, 2 weeks later.

Good swap but why the fuck isn’t Beasts doing a Fall release too?

Like y’all could mint a solid 150-200m in a barren September which is something that Beast would have no chance at in June and if enjoyed, you come back big for a summer sequel.

I don’t get why this June is so stuffed. They could have easily moved Transformers, Gillman and Indy to either later in the summer or to the fall. It doesn’t have to be a tentpole logjam

On the bright side, maybe Elemental can survive a bit more now.

Meaning?

1/5 of TGM apparently.