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Yes, so what people like @ThomasNicole are suggested is these movies would still be in development but in that interval there’d be shows. People obviously don’t mean start development in four years but for the movies at least to have longer development time both to increase quality and to give a bit more of a break.

What people are saying is the Covid hiatus should’ve been longer. Like maybe movies return in 2023 rather than 2021 to give more time on scripts and where the universe is going. In that scenario, TV shows would still be made but the movies would be given a longer time to get details worked out. Is Lucasfilm shut down because it has no movies in development?

Those are yes technically self contained but when people complained about those it wasn’t because they didn't connect (although narratively as a whole Phase 4 is disjointed, that’s where the comments are mostly coming from and not the individual films/shows) but a lot of the MCU trappings held them back from being better: Only Werewolf by Night and the Guardians special were the only exceptions in my honest opinions: She-Hulk was bogged down a lot by the Intelligencia narrative (which the concept I really dug) but for its big thing about wanting to be different, it still had to have a big battle at the end even with retconning and did effect the plot a lot to the point where you do wonder would the series as a whole be better as just an weekly episode thing with no plot (I know She-Hulk does meta in the comics, for the most part I liked it in there too). A similar thing happens with Ms. Marvel and the warring Damage Control and genie storylines took away from the charm of being a teen hero finding her footing. Hawkeye suffered from the exact same problem as most of the Disney+ shows as it had really bad pacing and felt like an extended six hour movie. Shang-Chi and Black Widow both really didn’t need a big CGI end battle, especially when the wuxia-esque action and the spy action for the latter were the main drivers. I am very pro-Eternals and it mostly worked for me but a lot of its problems were justifying why they couldn’t get involved was somewhat hypocritical and did at times struggle on if it wanted to be a Chloe Zhao movie or an MCU movie. I know the MCU has always been about setup but the problem for Quantumania it seems it’s more like homework for Kang Dynasty than it is Ant-Man 3.

Is my 90m club happening?

I’ll be surprised if my Quantumania OW under MoM OD ($90.7M) club happens.

Tbh a 5-10 year hiatus with maybe a Spider-Man film wise and a lot of well crafted TV shows would help generate hype for the inevitable return to the MCU. I mean look at Star Wars for instance.

Then tbh maybe some of those constraints need to re-evaluated for the good of the franchise. Maybe the schedule should allow more time for films to be pushed, maybe less content would help, maybe a bit less of a heavy hand in the pre-visual stage when a script isn't ready.

There's a huge difference in outright saying dying and diminishing returns.

I'm glad Giovanni is finally happening. It was pretty good from what I remembered.

But Ragnarok is the direct sequel not Dark World.

Honestly. No more than 3 movies and two shows a year. And I do think they should have less green writers. I've been harping on the Rick and Morty to MCU pipeline for a minute, It's not so much that although it's a large part of that. It's more I think you need to write a smaller movie like a comedy first before doing a big tentpole as you can learn from your mistakes. McKenna and Sommers did a lot of movies (even though I hate FFH, they knew how to write a script). A lot of people in phases 4-6 either never written a film before or were returning with the former being more so for Phases 5 and 6.

Honestly I think the large amount of quantity of projects and the need to up the scales of the Infinity Saga has done more harm than good for Phase 4. If every movie is an Avengers level event; then nothing is, and this nature has hurt a lot of movies. I like both Eternals and Multiverse of Madness but a lot of problems stem from the films are at war with being something of the directors style and what the MCU has to be which does hurt them a bit. Note there's exceptions like the Coogler and Gunn movies but I do think that's coming out more pronounced here.

They released 9 in 2021.

I mean I have no doubt Elemental would be an infinitely better movie, apart from Lightyear, there’s not been a Pixar movie that’s missed for me since Toy Story 4. I just am uncertain sadly of its box office potential, especially because it opens the same day as another big kids movie that does seem very likely upon reactions to open to 100m+ and smother it OW wise. Could have strong legs though.

I’m changing mine to $102,394,702

It’s not 89m lol. It’s under 90.7M but yeah pretty dead unless sales crash this week with Eternals level WOM.

Yeah, this seems not for me. Hopefully Brother Kang cooks.

Guessing full trailer on this weekend to go with Quantumania. Considering these are supposed to be Disney’s only trailers tonight. I am confident it’ll be a mini-Avatar 2/Maverick and do 500m.

I remember Eternals was gassed up a lot, they even thought it was going to get them Oscar gold. Still heavily enjoyed Eternals though.

Tbh best CBM is a common hyperbole that goes around for all of them to gas them up. Like both Marvel and DC get this a lot.

Cameron not only has the experience but is one of the only directors who really cares about delivering on VFX.

I’m very sold on Fast X, as I haven’t enjoyed most Fast movies after 7. I’m here for Momoa Joker.

The stuff Ryan Coogler and James Gunn cook up for the MCU is head and shoulders above any other directors in that franchise. Pretty excited for this, as it’s been a while I’ve been really excited for an MCU movie barring Wakanda.

The Flash commits genocide by accident in this one I see. Solid trailer, but a lot of the stuff Ezra did is a turnoff for me, which is a shame given this look good.