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Spidey will be successful anyway even if it’s a mess. Eternals…
I’ve seen a lot of people say they are finished with the MCU after Endgame felt like a natural ending point.
Cant say I disagree but I think Marvel has to find it’s groove again sooner rather than later.
Also: Even though he worked on Black Panther, Nate Moore has been the producer Feige has assigned to work on Eternals and Falcon & Winter Solider. Likely the two weakest Phase 4 properties…
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Nothing is working out for this movie 😂
I understand why people might be upset with this though, I don’t know why you would include something like that in a superhero movie. Seems a bit misguided and out of place.
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What’s happening in here? lol
If the movies a mess, it’s a mess. Sometimes things don’t work out. If you look at the reviews a lot of them say the same negative things.
Sometimes Marvel movies get a pass if they’re at least fun but I think this movie just took itself too seriously.
I was going to see it 1st weekend but now? I’ll wait for Disney+, I suspect that is what a lot of people are doing and why ticket sales are slumping after poor reviews.
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Even the Marvel friendly critics are not liking it. This Marvel and Zhao collaboration just didn’t work.
It’s unfortunate but I think if it was one of the more established franchises getting bad reviews(Avengers, Thor, Spider-Man) more people would care.
With Eternals being something new and not a popular comic anyway, it just seems Marvel will be like ‘we took a risk and it didn’t pay off’.
Whether the Eternals franchise continues though, that’s down to the audience.
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Just looking at some tweets of critics I follow and expect a good few more Rotten reviews. It just really seems that this film does not work. Rolling Stones just called it a ‘bore’.
I bet Marvel wasn’t really expecting this reaction or they wouldn’t have dropped the embargo this early.
The worst thing though is the media headlines from some of biggest news sites saying the film is boring and a misfire, when it’s more of a mixed bag for now.
Will see how audiences react but this negative media attention does not help.
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I’ve seen some tweets while scrolling through Twitter saying Cineplex in Toronto have cancelled some Eternals IMAX screenings.
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1 minute ago, JonahVex said:
Guys whats your worldwide box office prediction?
I say 450 milI don’t know it’s hard to tell how audiences are going to react here.
I would say 400 mil is a good target.
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1 minute ago, Spidey Freak said:
Inhumans are trash, Eternals are as dull as dishwater. I guess you could say trash is more interesting than dishwater.
No I agree I’m not a fan of the Inhumans but they are at least more fun and have a dog who can teleport.
(I haven’t seen the TV show, I’m talking strictly Inhumans comics lol)
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True.
I just think Zhao has such a specific style. Her doing the movie about what are essentially Marvel’s Space Gods and Monsters is a risky choice.
Maybe she should have done more grounded characters like the Runaways or some X-Men characters.
Also maybe the Eternals are just boring characters in the 1st place. Let’s be honest the Inhumans are more interesting, at least they have a giant space dog.
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Zhao recently saying she was inspired by Prometheus and Tree of Life was a big red flag for me.
Whatever you think of those films, a Marvel movie inspired by those films sounds very unappealing.
As I said before, it just doesn’t seem that this Zhao and Marvel collaboration really worked.
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2 minutes ago, Let There Be Legion said:
We’re definitely gonna need someone to post when it hits 53 reviews what the new score is, then 54 reviews, then 55…
Crucial info here. Highly path dependent sorta quantity dontcha know.
LOL sorry, I just had time to check out reviews. I’ll stop now, promise.
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Looking at some reviews on Google there is still Rotten ones to be uploaded on to RT by critics from the Times UK, Screen Daily and the New York Post.
I can’t find potential fresh reviews that haven’t been uploaded yet.
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The six reviews posted today after last nights screenings:
3 Fresh, 3 Rotten.
Mixed is the right word lol.
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Looking at a few more reviews, I think this one will go Rotten. Might hover around 60% for a while but honestly, things aren’t looking great.
One of the main issues that seems to come up with critics is the length and pacing. Seems like this movie just doesn’t really come together.
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Sorry I haven’t been paying attention but how does Venom 2 not have a release date yet?
I understand Shang Chi and Eternals not getting a release but Venom hasn’t got one yet even after the first one was a big hit there. What’s up?
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Seems like a lot of critics are seeing the movie tonight. Should have way more reactions/reviews pretty soon.
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I was reading one of the reviews by Robbie Collin and he’s say Marvel doesn’t deserve credit for the diversity in this movie.
I agree to a certain extent but I think the largest franchise of all time doing it in this day and age is significant considering the way things are right now with this constant, stupid ‘woke’ shit.
It just feels sometimes Marvel can’t do anything right with certain groups but what can ye do.
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It feels more like this Zhao and Marvel collaboration just didn’t really work like they thought it would.
Zhao is credited for the script and story here, she was more creatively involved than usual for MCU directors.
The issues with casual critics just seems more like it’s a bit boring than outright sayings it’s bad like other superhero movies (Fant4stic, BvS etc)
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I was reading some of the french reviews on Twitter, they seem alright but still fairly mixed.
One person said it was not as quite as bad as gangrene. So that’s a plus lol.
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7 minutes ago, Menor said:
I feel like this is almost the same concern though. The review bump is what was supposed to pump it up to keep up with BW, like it did for Shang-Chi (on lower overall PS, but in terms of pace). The pace being bad relative to BW is directly because there was hardly any review bump.
Strange.
It’s an interesting one but maybe audiences don’t want to keep going to Marvel movies unless it’s something special.
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3 minutes ago, Menor said:
Eh. The trailer views were quite strong, and the sales were doing quite well up until yesterday, which was pretty bad. I think the reviews being lower than normal for MCU may have blunted the upward trend. As far as the second point, who cares about Film Twitter people? They are only useful to laugh at, not to predict BO from.
So the middling reviews are hurting the pre sales?
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5 minutes ago, john2000 said:
if you really think that the audience were moking eternals , then you should see what happened with shang chi.......
It just seems for some reason that people want to see this movie fail.
(Mainly Film Twitter lol)
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4 minutes ago, champsi said:
You do seem to be anxious for this to fail. Better bet this wont go rotten. Shang-Chi opened at 94RT and ended with 92RT. Also. The movie seems very divisive. It could go either way. Up or down. Or just stay in the low 70s even. People here seem to just wanna focus on the bad. Just want to remind everyone that Joker is at 68RT. 59 Metacritic.
Joker reviews bash on its writting and being a Scorcese movie wannabe.
What do Eternals and Joker have in common? They are artsy movies. They are... very outside the box. Both bold and. ambitious.
BUT. The audience received Joker really well actually.
Eternals score could go to any direction. Its to divisive to predict
I do not want this film to fail. I’m a Marvel fan!
It probably won’t go rotten but I’m just saying as more critics share their reviews, they won’t be as easy to impress as the ones who attended the premiere.
Maybe it is just divisive. Marvel doing something outside their ‘formula’ can only be a good thing for the future.
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2 minutes ago, Porthos said:
Now my comment about not jumping on the doom and gloom train notwithstanding, I'd be lying if I said that the soft review bounce wasn't noteworthy. But the term I'd use is noteworthy, especially as it had a fairly strong embargo bounce.
How much of the review bounce was already eaten by the embargo bounce just a few days before?
That being said... I'm not in love with its current pace against Black Widow ticket sales locally (I say pace coz a direct comp suffers a bit due to differing length of pre-sales).
Want to see a few more days of data before really baking in my thoughts, and they probably belong in the tracking thread and not here anyway. But... Well, that's where my, concern is a bit of a strong word but I'll use it, is and not so much with the review bounce (or lack there of).
Genuinely, maybe there is just a lack of interest in Eternals.
The trailer didn’t really seem to grab people and now with the reactions, maybe people see this as one they can easily skip in theatres. The Marvel brand and some of the cast can only do so much.
Also every time I go on Twitter people are just mocking everything about the Eternals. This film has a real uphill battle lol.
Eternals | Marvel Studios | Nov 5 2021 | Magnum-Opus by Oscar winner Chloe Zhao - Marvel's first rotten movie | Dips into the 40s on RT, B CinemaScore
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I can’t agree here.
The thing is at least No Way Home and MoM will probably be fun and exciting.
Eternals always looked like it was taking itself a bit too seriously.
Chadwick’s death is tragic but with Marvel still to introduce characters like X Men, Blade and Fantastic Four, they will be fine. They just need to find their groove again.
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