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6 minutes ago, baumer said:
Fuckin A.
Water parks are just as bad. Dolphins are slaughtered by the Japanese or Dutch or Norwegians and the ones that are left behind are sold to water parks for a life time of slavery after they have watched their family get cut open while they are still breathing.
I agree about circuses and water parks but zoos are important and the animals there are treated really well.
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4 minutes ago, Spaghetti by the Sea said:
Cirque du Soleil FTW. Amazing acrobatics and production design without any animals.
Also really good if that's for HF. Could hit 20 for the three day easily. Props to @glassfairy for being the only one to have it in their top 15.
Seeing Cirque is on my bucket list although I'm unsure whether I should go to Vegas or see one of the touring productions
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Just seen that The Lego Batman Movie has previews on the 4th and 5th February, will be interesting which will better between it and Sing
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6 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:
If a movie resonates with a substantial group of people, it'll find an audience. Dreamworks' problem of late is that they haven't been particularly interested in making distinguished films, believing that just being competent is enough to consistently pay their bills. For awhile I thought Illumination would run into the same problem eventually but they seem to be learning to have just enough heart to keep audiences coming back to their manically-paced slapstick that they market so well.
With the unexpected optimism for Cars 3 and the relatively smooth production and unified vision for Coco, it's looking unlikely either experiences a Good Dino fate this year.
I think Illumination should be looking at different directors and writers for their films rather than sticking with the same teams they used for SLOP, DM, Minions etc I agree that DWA's issues was Katzenberg more focused on expanding the brand to theme park and TV and I think the films suffered as a result with the odd gem like HTTYD.
WDAS, Pixar, Illumination, WAG and Blue Sky will be fine long term but I think Sony and Paramount are in danger of getting left behind, SPA in particular seems to throwing ideas to see what sticks.
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3 minutes ago, narniadis said:
yes, note 2010 to 2011 the last time we had a buffo animation year and the year of fatigue that came afterwards.
DWA learnt the hard way that multiple animated films in a year isn't a sustainable model.
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19 minutes ago, NCsoft said:
Both of those were so promising domestically and overseas, coming after Zootopia and Pets respectively, I don't know but it feels pretty weird that animated films performance kind of stagnated by the end of the year, fatigue maybe?
I think with so many animated films a year, fatigue is inevitable
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On 11/01/2017 at 4:05 PM, Wrath said:
That's fair, though Stork's occasional ridiculousness was, imo, one of its selling points. Like how the customer-service was so good that returned packages were effectively teleported back to the warehouse. And the wolf-pack's extremely impressive improvisational abilities (which they lampshade the hell out of. Junior and Tulip are like "Huh. They can do that?") were, imo, one of the very best parts of the movie.
The ridiculousness of Storks IMO is what made a good film and when the gags landed, they really worked. I think it's an honourable failure for WAG and hopefully it won't have an impact on future original films
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I usually agree with Tele on most things but I disagree on his views about La La Land. It's not realistic but it's not aiming to be and I think they did a great job mixing the dream/fantasy with the reality/struggles of the characters. Seb is a bit of a douche but his aspirations aren't too dissimilar to anyone moving to somewhere like Los Angeles in the hope of catching that big break then having to compromise.
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12 minutes ago, YourMother said:
It's not just R1 underperforming OS, Moana and Sing will both barely get over $300M OS, when both Zootopia and Pets did over $550M OS, Passengers and Assassins Creed are doing decent but not good enough for their respective budgets. However at this point R1 is guaranteed for $1B.
Sing's underperformance OS is surprising, it's doing great in some places but poorly in others. Moana had poor marketing in many places like the UK hence poor OW but strong legs.
I saw Manchester by the Sea and I thought it was great film, I'm hoping it has success awards wise, I have a feeling Casey Affleck may pip Ryan Gosling at the Oscars assuming he's nominated. Amazon Studios is off to a great start with this, Paterson, Love and Friendship etc
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I'm curious to see if the other new releases like Manchester by the Sea get decent numbers, I think Manchester is in limited release so I'm not expecting huge numbers
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42 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Also, it'll be interesting to see what happens to Ben Affleck's career as a director now after the strong run he had going for him. First he made a strong debut with Gone Baby Gone, a critical hit that made little at the box office but got some nominations and found a following on DVD. Then he struck with a critical and box office hit that also got some nominations with The Town. Then he got a critical and box office hit that would not only also got nominations but won Best Picture with Argo. And he follows it up with...Live by Night, a critical flop and an even bigger box office bomb. Hopefully this doesn't mark the beginning of a downturn.
Affleck will be fine, i suspect he will still get directing gigs but he will learn with Live by Night not to juggle too many tasks.
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1 minute ago, Telemachos said:
There are seven production companies/entities that ponied up money. And yeah, everyone worked for cheap. From Wikipedia:
I think giving the presales, the budget was recouped so Paramount, Studiocanal and other distributors aren't losing too much money.
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10 hours ago, tribefan695 said:
Between this and Vinyl, hasn't been a great year for Marty at the bank
Marty will be fine, he can direct and deliver a hit once in a while and he's a veteran so Studios will still pick up his projects.
7 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:Their reward is working with arguably the greatest living director and participating in a movie that will still be both remembered and discovered, even if by a very small audience, when no one gives a shit about Deadpool.
For a film like Silence, I suspect everyone including Marty took a pay cut. It's true it won't make money but heads aren't going to roll because of it
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2 hours ago, Heretic said:
Definitely. We could see a repeat of Les Mis here, which had the same release date in 2013, especially since this is going to, and already has done way better than that film awards wise. WOM will be very strong.
It wont open as strong (I think), but it should have a great multiplier.
£30m will be tricky but I think £25m is doable.
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16 minutes ago, JonathanLB said:
I'll never understand the appeal of Love Actually. It's also not a romantic comedy because it's not funny. It's girly sappy sentimental crap. One of the most painful cringeworthy movies I've ever sat through. Good romantic comedy is a fun genre though!!
I don't mind Love Actually but it's not Richard Curtis' best film and it's far too long! Four Weddings and Notting Hill are really good and I do like About Time
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I think in regards to romcoms, I suspect the decline is due to them being in the category as midbudget dramas, the marketing costs and low franchise potential as well as the lack of actors who want to do these films. They isn't the new Garry Marshall, Nora Ephron or Richard Curtis writing or directing these films either. For me, Bridget Jones's Baby OS success does show there is still hope for romcoms but studios need to take a punt.
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I'm surprised Lynton lasted as long he did after Rothman took over at Sony.
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1 hour ago, dudalb said:
People said that about The Lion King.......
Lionsgate is definently stealing a page from Disney's playbook, thought.
The Lion King had Julie Taymor to reimagine it as a theatrical piece, don't think Lionsgate would succeed as well as Disney did
I saw La La Land and loved it. I suspect they'll be a huge surge in tourism to LA after the Oscars. I was recently in LA and I enjoyed seeing the likes of the Griffith Observatory and the Warner Bros lot in the film, I bet WB will be hugely pleased with that as that'll increase the number of people going on the tour
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17 minutes ago, franfar said:
Low budget films can also make profit. Moonlight cost $5m and made $13m. I don't think they advertised the movie that much.
Moonlight and also La La Land are often sold to foreign distributors so the budget is recouped before the film is even released, Arrival I suspect has already made a profit from the presales from Paramount, eOne and others who bought the distribution rights
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Just now, elcaballero said:
Very true. I'm shocked that Hollywood still leans as heavily on traditional advertising as it does.
4 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:It's not the budgets as much as it's the marketing costs that have exploded that have mostly impacted low and mid budget films so that it makes more sense to send them to VOD or just have limited runs with a small marketing budget before sending films to VOD/Netflix/DVD. So the market gets heavier skewed toward tent poles that can support big marketing budgets.
Mid budget films can do well but they need to have a name or based on a existing source like a novel
Traditional advertising can be effective, WB and Universal do it very well and as a result, the big tentpoles like BvS or FB get big openings
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5 minutes ago, babz06 said:
Live By Night will be a movie that Affleck forgets. First real stinker that he;s produced
He will be fine, every director has a flop once in a while, Clint Eastwood had two back to back for example and most of the veterans like Spielberg, Zemeckis, Scorcese etc don't produce hit after hit
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19 minutes ago, filmlover said:
It's really not that surprising, imo. Both of these movies were tough sells (hard to expect audiences to show up for a poorly-reviewed gangster drama, especially at a time when movies that are actually competing for awards are out).
La La Land might actually be #2 this weekend. Holy.
I think WB when they moved up Live by Night were expecting it to do a lot better reviews wise.
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Peter Berg and Walhberg aren't having much luck lately, guessing Paramount won't be asking Berg to direct Transformers 6 or 7
Hidden Figures will win the weekend now, who'd thunk that would beat both Live by Night and Patriot's Day a few months ago?
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21 hours ago, Heretic said:
La La Land looking busy this evening. Tomorrow evening even more so, I wouldn't be surprised with £3-4m over the weekend, perhaps more.
Don't forget it had an early West End release so I think £5m is doable.
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Affleck had a misfire but given most of the veteran directors apart from Eastwood had failure in the last year alone, he will bounce back from this. I'm sure WB will bankroll his next project but I imagine Affleck will learn not to put his eggs in one basket