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  1. I read soemwhere that Dune book was originally Dune + Messiah (then not called Messiah cause it was part of Dune) but the publisher was so sacred of the size of the book, it insisted the Messiah part to be removed. But when Dune became a massive success, they published Messiah as Messiah aka sequel. hence why that book is much shorter than Dune and feels more like an ending than the end of Dune book.
  2. Not great? How? It's exceeding the first one by leaps and bounds.
  3. Good. Alia never made sense and her arc in Messiah and CoD works without her killing Baron cause the point is something else anyway. Because Paul has always been a hero on a villain journey something he wanted to stop but couldn't (ex. he saw himself choose the name Mua'Dib in the future that led to unprecedented bloodshed so in the present he tried to change that by choosing the name Paul Mua'dib and it didn't work cause future cannot be changed one can only see it if prescient).
  4. Since I always thought that Paul or Jessica should have killed the Baron and not the character who appeared late in the book, who kills him?
  5. Based. They know Butler is geenrating buzz as the villain to beat so they are hyping that. Also, I really like this expansion of Irulan character cause it sets up her arc in the next movie.
  6. I don't want to jinx it so I'm cautiously predicting 700M but will be thrilled when it goes higher. My awards prediction is part of my manifesting exercise.
  7. You have an axe to grind for this movie while I stan so we won't agree. But IMO 700M is not unrealistic given that the first one made 400M during pandemic and with hybrid domestic release. I expect similar boxoffice to Spiderverse with reverse dom/OS (Dune will be stronger OS while Spiderverse was stronger dom). So 700M give or take.
  8. Many won before ROTK. And then the trend stopped. Titanic won in 1998. ROTK in 2003. That's 5 years between winners that grossed over 300M dom and over 1B WW (or in Oppenheiemr case over 900M WW). In between was Gladiator win in 2001. The movie made 187M dom and 465M WW which was huge for an R rated movie in pre-3D era. And then 20 years between ROTK and Oppenheimer. So Oppenheimer could open the floodgates again. Fingers crossed.
  9. Blowup awards-wise not boxoffice-wise. Nobody expects 900M+. I think people settled with 700M ceiling.
  10. Sci fi is a different kind of movie than a historical drama as big as both might be at the boxoffice. Also, time of the year doesn't mean anything if a movie has the momentum.
  11. Historical dramas haven't won in a long time either and this is really about being a blockbuster. So yes it will pave a way for big movies to make a comeback.
  12. Said it in Dune thread. If it cleans up as we all hope and expect it'll normalize awarding big blockbusters again. Paves the way for Dune win be it 2 or Messiah.
  13. WB is pulling no stops with Dune 2 promo and gotta say one of the best I've ever seen. The cast is slaying red carpet especially Zendaya who is next level of fashion forward. 😍 I'm bullish on awards prospect and think that if Oppenheimer cleans up as everyone expects, it'll normalize awarding big bl;ockbusters again which hasn't happened in exactly 20 years (ROTK win was the last over 300M dom, over 900M WW win). Paves the way for Dune.
  14. No point looking back at LOTR cause it didn't win on the preferential ballot. Also, no case is the same. Just because there were upsets it doesn't mean they are a norm. Oppenheimer needed SAG win and it got it. That hurt potential script winners American Fiction and Barbie.
  15. it's been exactly 20 years since a movie that made over 300M dom and 900M WW won Best Picture.
  16. Nomination in Screenplay should be enough and SAG Ensemble win is what it needed more IMO. Upsets tend to come from movies that have strong support from actors, the biggest voting block. That barrier is now removed.
  17. The movie has enough spectacle to at least does better than the first in China I hope.
  18. Many Oscar site did. Generally Picture winners have 80 and over MC, Green Book and CODA being exceptions with 69 and 72 respectively. The site is more respected cause their metrics are different from RT and it doesn't accept YTuber type of reviewers and funko reviewers that has been the staple of franchise reviews. I can't speak for him but Oscars usually go for a different type of winner next time so if Oppenheimer (historical drama) won now than sci fi winner would be the opposite of that next year. Nomadland (heavy drama) followed by CODA (Lifetime quality uplifting movie) followed by EEAAO (wacky arthouse multiverse sci fi fantasy) followed by Oppenheimer? (historical drama) followed by Dune 2? (hard sci fi). You get the idea.
  19. Nah no one cares for Cleopatra. I wished he didn't make it smells like a flop. It isn't like there's shortage of Cleopatra, didn't Netflix make a movie or series that flopped recently?
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