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  1. 7 minutes ago, Eric Atreides said:

    Good to know Turning Red, the best of these, opened the highest. Quality wins yet again.

     

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    For me Turning Red is easily the worst out of the three. But still they are all excellent movies so I guess it depends on your taste. I think Pixar would have had an incredible run with Soul-Luca-Turning Red in theaters if COVID would not have happened. 

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  2. The fact that this was initially supposed to be a TV show does worry me, hopefully it will be good. I think all this movie needs to succeed is a good soundtrack, story can be weak as long as the songs are great (similar to Frozen 2). However, if this gets amazing reviews then I do agree it will hit a billion and probably start a "sequel era" at WDAS, if it hasn't already started. 

  3. I think the only movie that is completely safe from this year no matter what the reviews are is Despicable Me 4. The other potential big players (Deadpool 3, Inside Out 2, Gladiator 2, Joker 2, Beetlejuice 2, Mufasa...) will need good critics and audience scores to live to their full potential. Some will just do just ok if reviews are bad (Inside Out 2, Joker 2...) and some will straight up bomb (Gladiator 2, Mufasa).

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  4. 2 hours ago, dallas said:

    I think Dune 2, Kung Fu Panda 4, Godzilla x Kong, and Civil War will be hits. Don't know about anything else through April. 

    Horror tends to be successful so Imaginary, The First Omen and Abigail can also be consider hits if the budgets are not too high

  5. Just cause I am bored and February looks so bad for the box office, some predictions for the movies in March (OW/DOM): 

     

    Dune: Part II - $78m/ $225m

    Kung Fu Panda 4 - $43m / $146m

    Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire - $35m / $92m

    Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire - $51m / $110m

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  6. These were my 2023 predictions back in January 2023:

     

    1. Aquaman: The Lost Kingdom: $296m DOM - $964m WW (lol)

    2. Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny: $387m DOM - $912m WW (lmao)

    3. The Little Mermaid: $342m DOM - $875m WW (Feel pretty good for DOM, did not expect OS audiences to reject it)

    4. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning. Part 1: $274m DOM - $860m WW (If not for Barbenheimer it would have done better)

    5. Guardians of the Galaxy. Vol 3: $403m DOM - $824m WW (Very close)

    6. Super Mario Bros: $328m DOM - $757m WW (I had this overperforming a bit, not the beast that it was)

    7. Fast X: $148m DOM - $710m WW (Feel very proud of this one)

    8. The Marvels: $264m DOM - $705m WW (no comments...)

    9. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania: $225m DOM - $562m WW (This would have totally reached these numbers if not for the awful reception). 

    10. Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse: $232m DOM - $520m WW (Glad I was wrong on this one)

     

    I was pretty bad at predicting the top grosses and surprises of the year (no Barbie or Oppenheiemer) although tbh I could see Barbie and Oppenheimer breaking out as the release date approached, just not in January. Moreover, I did not expect reviews or the superhero fatigue to absolutely kill some movies (Ant-Man, The Marvels, Aquaman). So taking this into account, my very early 2024 predictions: (some of these depend entirely on great reviews)

     

    1. Inside Out 2: $484m DOM - $1,094m WW

    2. Deadpool 3: $420m DOM - $1,041m WW

    3. Despicable Me 4: $302m DOM - $965m WW

    4. Joker: Folie a Deux: $291m DOM - $882m WW

    5. Gladiator 2: $347m DOM - $832m WW 

    6. Mufasa: The Lion King: $252m DOM - $784m WW

    7. Dune: Part Two: $305m DOM - $742m WW

    8. Twisters: $244m DOM - $643m WW

    9. Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire: $161m DOM - $540m WW

    10. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes: $152m DOM - $495m WW

     

    Purely anecdotal but almost everyone I have talked to has seen the Inside Out 2 trailer and is planning on seeing the movie when it comes out because of the anxiety character so I think it could surprise big time. Deadpool 3, Joker and Gladiator will ride or die depending on reviews and audience scores. Mufasa got saved by moving it to Christmas, yeah I know Aquaman 2 dropped massively compared to the first one but $700-800m is still a huge drop from $1.6b and families will be more forgiving than for Aquaman. 

  7. 28 minutes ago, Maggie said:

    Any potential breakout like Barbie?

    Not like Barbie (+$600M DOM / $1.4b WW) but I think Inside Out 2, Gladiator 2 or Deadpool 3 could be pretty big if things go well. Despicable Me 4 will do great as well. 

     

    By going well I mean great trailers, reviews, advertisement...

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  8. 59 minutes ago, Arlborn said:

     

    I honestly believe that some grifters Youtubers got so used to calling things a bomb or flop to drive engagement up that they left any type of critical thinking behind a long time ago. Everything needs to be a bomb, needs to be hated, so that they can create a caps lock rage-bait title and drive up engagement.

     

    This sort of Youtube content took a real nose dive in the past couple of years, it's very hard to find a reasonable movies (or gaming) Youtuber nowadays.

     

    To be fair, most people outside of this forum have no idea about the box office and are not able to tell if a movie is a failure or a success if not for the Variety reports they see. I've seen people say The Marvels might get to $200m DOM because it opened with $46m and Elemental made $154m with $29m opening.

     

    However, if you are a youtuber and specifically dedicate an entire section to talk about the box office, at the very least, do some research beforehand. The Godzilla thing was just an example but I have seen, and not only from this channel in their defense, some incredible awful takes that are just jarring to anyone who has any idea about this. 

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  9. I know Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes success probably has nothing to do with Rachel Zegler but I am really happy it is succeeding because she was fantastic as Lucy Gray and totally deserved a win. She has been getting a lot of hate, similar to Brie Larson or Hale Bailey, because of her casting as Snow White and it is totally undeserved (like the other two actresses). It is crazy to me how much hate a certain actor/actress can receive because of a casting choice, an out of context interview or simply being part of a big franchise. 

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  10. 26 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

    Not many, it actually doesn't seem that bad considering it's missing some major western european markets (germany, france, italy), SK, Japan, Australia and a bunch of LATAM and minor other markets IMO. Compared to the DOM numbers anyway.

    Thanks! I thought it opened everywhere in Europe because it opened here in Spain this weekend. In that case, it is not that bad

  11. There is a lot of negativity in this thread regarding the current state of the Box Office but I think we cannot say "theaters are dying" just because of this Thanksgiving weekend. In my opinion, there was a lot of interest for Wish and Napoleon but the reviews and the audience reception totally killed their chances of potentially breaking out. Up until the reviews came out most of us were expecting Wish to, at least, cross $150m DOM and $400m WW and Napoleon $3m previews showed that there was interest in the movie. Audiences are just more selective on what to watch, there is plenty of content to watch "for free" at home and if there is not a good motive to go to the movies they, most likely, won't and will just wait to maybe catch those movies on their respective streaming services. I have yet to watch Wish and Napoleon but I really enjoyed The Marvels and it saddens me to watch it be a total bomb (which paid the price of mediocre/bad previous movies) but if it serves as a wake up call for the studio to focus and make good and appealing movies then it is a win for audiences and fans. 

     

    We are also seeing it with Ballad of Songbird and Snakes, that movie was never going to perform close to the originals and I think it was more aimed for fans of the book but because of positive WOM it is holding incredibly well. December movies will ride or die depending on reviews and audience reception, except maybe Aquaman 2 which would require a miracle.

     

    Next year will be the same, from January until Memorial Day weekend it looks absolutely awful for theaters because of the lack of appealing movies or even constant big releases, aside from Dune 2, Kung Fu Panda 4 and GvK2, but they are not comparable to the Creed III - Scream VI - John Wick 4 - Dungeons and Dragons - Mario corridor. However, second part of the year (June-December) will hopefully be better. 

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  12. Yeah this Thanksgiving weekend is not great but at least it is better than last year. I think Wish and Napoleon had potential for a breakout but WOM and reviews probably killed any potential breakout. Hunger Games is benefitting from this and I'm glad it is because it is a fantastic movie.

     

    Next year looks better with Venom 3, which will likely do better than The Marvels, Gladiator 2 which has potential and Wicked, which will do well. Moreover, if WDAS movie is Zootopia 2 when it should, at least, double Wish. 

  13. 1 hour ago, elothar said:

    Just watched the newest THG, the first 2 acts are really good, unfortunately the last one really fell off. The vilain origin story is pretty much made up in the last 15min. I would rank it as 3rd best in the franchise. Had a chance for number one with the first 2 acts. Lead actor is great !

    Yeah the movie was great but the third act is much better in the book and makes a lot more sense. Still the movie was pretty good. 

     

    THG Ranking: 

    1. Catching Fire

    2. The Hunger Games

    3. Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes

    4. Mockingjay Part 2

    5. Mockingjay Part 1

     

    I know a lot of people see this movie as a desperate way to bring back a popular IP but honestly they have done nothing wrong or desperate. It is an adaptation of a book and not a made up story (Fantastic Beasts), pretty well adapted and made just in one movie from one book (The Hobbit). 

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  14. I was hoping for 'The Hunger Games: Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes' to do a bit more. I was feeling a Hunger Games comeback between my friends non-stop talking about it and my TikTok, I guess it was just my personal experience. Seeing it tomorrow.

     

    I feel like something has to, at the very least, overperform otherwise what a boring end of the year to track, specially compared to previous years. 'Wish' would have been my bet but latest reviews were not particularly good. I'm also not feeling it for 'Wonka' but a lot of people that I know are so...maybe. Otherwise it's up to 'Aquaman 2' and 'Migration' and seeing how DCEU movies and comic book movies are performing this year my bet is on 'Migration'.

  15. I don't think MCU current status can be blamed in a few mediocre-to-bad movies (Multiverse of Madness, Eternals, Love and Thunder, Quantumania). While those clearly hurt the Marvel brand I think the Disney+ and the multiple characters and story lines being introduce play a much bigger role.

     

    The Disney+ shows IMO really diluted the Marvel brand, not only did they make their brand accessible at home for "free" making their movies less of an event but they also asked too much for their not die hard fans to watch and follow those. Don't get me wrong, I loved some of those shows (WandaVision, Loki, MoonKnight) but even as a huge Marvel fan my excitement when the next MCU project hits has lessened. 

     

    The other big problem is the amount of characters and future plots that they are introducing while not really explaining their main saga (the Multiverse). The Infinity Saga worked because each movie was like a piece of a puzzle and each movie built upon the previous ones until Infinity War-Endgame epic conclusion, some of those movies may not have been the best but because everything was so well build it payed off at the end. I don't really feel that with this phase, too many characters are being introduced, too many stories are being hinted for the future and rarely one of them is resolved within the next year(s). I mean the post credit scenes for Shang Chi, Eternals, Multiverse of Madness, Love and Thunder or Quantumania will likely not be continued until at least, if lucky, 2026!! Same with some characters, who knows when we'll see Kate Bishop, MoonKnight, She Hulk, Wanda, Vision, Thor, Shang Chi or the Eternals back? Without going into spoilers, they all have story lines opened. 

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  16. This is a pretty good new date for Mufasa. I think it was going to tank (Alice 2 style) in its previous release date next to Despicable Me 4. Now during Christmas and without any other huge movie opening next to it I could see this finishing with a decent DOM and WW number. 

     

    I know Sonic 3 is opening next to it but I see that doing max $250m DOM which leaves a lot of room for another movie. 

  17. This was pretty good, better than the first and probably mid tier MCU. My two biggest complains about the movie are its runtime and the villain. The movie feels like it needed 20-25 min extra to explain some certain things, it jumps right into the point and from there it doesn't stop until the end in which then the emotional moments don't pay off as much as they should have. I think more backstory on how Carol destroyed the Kree IA, the villain story and probably more time with the main trio getting to know each other would have been appreciated. My other complain was the villain, she's kinda just there and just serves her purpose of movie´s bad guy. I feel like her villain origin story could have been explained and expanded much better and would have resonated more with the audience. She doesn't have a bad origin for a villain and her motives make sense, she is just not given any time in the movie aside from action sequences. 

     

    I don't feel like ranking every MCU movie right now lol but from this year alone this was much much much better than Quantumania, which to me is lowest MCU (together with Dark World), and worse than Guardians 3, which was just fantastic. 

  18. The Marvels was honestly a lot of fun, had a great time watching it. Definitely on the good side of Phase 4/5 movies. It was good, funny, and straight to the point (which is maybe my biggest criticism on the movie). Sad that it is doing so poorly, it is better than the first and Kamala steals the movie, although Brie Larson shines much more than in any of her other appearances in the MCU. I hope that, even if it is a big failure, these characters continue their story. 

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