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    Strange World | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Comes to Disney+ on December 23rd

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    23 hours ago, Yandereprime101189 said:

    Doesn't quite capture the attention Raya and Encanto did to me with their teasers.

     

    Honestly, it's a really, really bad teaser.

    I want to say its their weakest teaser since Frozen? It doesn't immediately grab me the same way their other teasers have, but I'm still looking forward to watching it? Just not overly hyped like I was for Big Hero 6 through Encanto.

     

    I'll probably see this in theatres(?) unless this gets sent to Disney+ on Christmas again (honestly I think they should just move Black Panther up a week to November 4th and then put that on Disney+ for Christmas, then send this movie over to Disney+ in January - it'll be huge but definitely not as big as Encanto or Turning Red were).

    Lightyear | 6/17/22 | Disney/Pixar | PUPPY INTERVIEW FRIDAY SO NO REASON TO SEE MOVIE NOW. FLOP INCOMING

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    Huh. They went from

     

    To infinity and … 🚀 Experience the origin story of a Space Ranger in Disney and Pixar’s #Lightyear, in theaters Summer 2022. 💫

    To

    Every hero has a beginning. Go on an intergalactic adventure with Disney and Pixar’s #Lightyear this June 17, 2022.

     

    That's interesting. We shall see in a few months.

     

    I like how the poster displays the time instead of the date.

    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    1 hour ago, Morieris said:

    When does the real embargo break? Interested in the more balanced reactions.

    Looks like it's the 15th, probably going to be 9am PST/12pm EST is my guess.

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    Some more:

    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    First reactions are up!

    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    4 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

    I hate that this is going to D+ after 30 days which is way too soon, but Disney gotta sell subscriptions.:whosad:

    That, Spider-Man, and Sing are probably going to eat into its legs (what with the massive TC drops I'm expecting by the holidays). I was thinking about it this morning, and this might actually end up being the most front-loaded WDAS film of all time.

     

    Not that I'm helping towards the cause, per se. The 30-day window has made me lose any urgency to see this in theatres, and I'm not really in a rush to go back to theatres after Free Guy.

    Eternals | Marvel Studios | Nov 5 2021 | Magnum-Opus by Oscar winner Chloe Zhao - Marvel's first rotten movie | Dips into the 40s on RT, B CinemaScore

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    7 hours ago, nguyenkhoi282 said:

    🍅 CRITICS CONSENSUS

    "An ambitious superhero epic that soars as often as it strains, Eternals takes the MCU in intriguing -- and occasionally confounding -- new directions."

     

    LOL what's next, "soars less often than it strains"?

     

    "An ambitious superhero epic that strains as often as it soars, Eternals takes the MCU in confounding -- and occasionally intriguing -- new directions."

     

    Not gonna lie, the most enjoyable part about the Tomatometer taking the journey it has is seeing the Critics Consensus blurb change each time. Nothing drastic, just small albeit noticeable changes, and I can't help but giggle each time.

     

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    1 hour ago, Eric Atreides said:

    Review embargo lifts this Wednesday according to Matt Neglia

    That's pretty early, a full 3 weeks before release. I know we just saw what happened with Eternals, but I can't imagine Disney lifting the embargo super early is going to backfire on them for the second time this year, let alone in two weeks, so I'm expecting good things to come from this.

    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    I know that trailer views don't properly correlate with box office, but I can't be the only one surprised that the official trailer on the WDAS channel already has over 24 million views despite being up for less than three weeks. I don't think Frozen II's September trailer got there that quickly, and none of the September trailers for Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet or Coco got there before release either (Ralph is still under 10 million, and Coco is under 4 million).

     

    Also, the Japanese poster is out now.

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    If I'm impatient enough then I'll make an attempt to catch this in theatres like I did with Shang-Chi. But since this seems to be free on D+ by Christmas (it would be cruel of them to charge extra for a "gift"), it's going to be interesting to see how big this gets on D+.

     

    Curious to see how this legs out in theatres though. Most WDAS Thanksgiving releases still had a fair bit left in the tank after day 30, but the current December slate is so crowded it was probably going to cut into the gross regardless, but we'll see.

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    Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

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    Just now, TwoMisfits said:

     

    I only have to wait 45 days??...yeah, that's the final info I needed...

    I kind of feel the same way here. Outside of the Avengers films, I usually took my sweet time to see most Marvel movies in theatres pre-pandemic (and I still haven't seen Black Widow yet). So if I'm only waiting an additional 45 days to see Shang-Chi on Disney+, then I honestly wouldn't mind the extra wait, especially since it's only gonna be 12 days after Black Widow shows up sans PA.

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    Cruella | Disney | May 28 2021 | Disney+ premiere access hybrid release

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    Decided to take a peek at Critics Choice before the embargo went up:

    Cruella 81/100
     

    Given how the previous live-action remake things from Disney did, this is on the higher end? If I had to wager a guess, this will probably be fresh...

    Film RT Critics MC CC RT Audience
    Maleficent 54% (5.7) 56 73 70% (3.8)
    Cinderella 83% (7.2) 67 84 78% (3.9)
    The Jungle Book 94% (7.7) 77 88 86% (4.1)
    Alice Through the Looking Glass 29% (4.5) 34 58 48% (3.2)
    Beauty and the Beast 71% (6.7) 65 84 80% (4.0)
    Christopher Robin 72% (6.2) 60 71 83% (4.1)
    Dumbo 46% (5.5) 51 70 48% (3.2)
    Aladdin 57% (5.9) 53 75 94% (4.6)
    The Lion King 52% (6.0) 55 77 88% (4.4)
    Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 39% (5.1) 43 63 95% (4.6)
    Mulan 72% (6.7) 66 80 48% (3.0)

    Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

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    I enjoyed the trailer. Not my fantastically outstanding by any means, but it was enough to get me interested in the film. I'm more pumped about there being a live-action Asian superhero in Hollywood than anything, and it's something I would have loved to see growing up. That said, I do hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment seeing as this is Disney's third big release in the span of a year with a predominantly Asian cast. Mulan was a bit of trainwreck, to put it lightly; with regards to Raya, I was able to catch that one a while back, and while I think it's a good movie, I was underwhelmed with how it handled SEA representation. Hopefully third time's the charm here, but what I'm seeing so far is exciting.

     

    As an aside, the teaser finally pushed me to start watching Kim's Convenience, and I'm honestly kicking myself for not seeing it sooner - so many things in the show that I can relate to a T

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    13 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    Yeah not only Raya, Soul too felt like nobody really knows about it until the WOM spread and since it was OTT release all the hype almost died in the week.

    If I'm being honest, I think Disney has been hoping that their animated releases were pretty reliant on WOM for the last several years. It's great when there's a large enough opening for it to spread, but when the WOM is fairly tepid, or in Raya's case, not enough people are seeing it in the first place, then it really doesn't do it any favours.

     

    I think Soul being an OTT release without PA helped it greatly with regards to getting the word out. It died out quickly, but having it as brand new release just pop up in the service is probably enough to pique the interest of anyone who logged onto the service that day, and Soul got far more promotion than most Disney+ releases, which probably helped a bit too.

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    12 hours ago, El Squibbonator said:

    So, if the pandemic hadn't been a thing and this had gotten a regular theatrical release, how big of an opening weekend would it have most likely gotten? 

    I'm assuming the movie would have kept it's original November 25 date in that case, So it would have been a Thanksgiving opening with what I would guess to be $55M/$80M for the 3/5-day weekends and then leg out to $200-250M, if Moana, Coco and Ralph Breaks the Internet were any indication.

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    52 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

    How long did it take for Mulan to become free on Disney+?

     

    Do you guys expect Raya and BW to get the same treatment? 

    They've confirmed Raya will be free on Disney+ on June 4.

     

    If I'm being honest, 3 more months really isn't that long of a wait, but I've gotten used to seeing almost every WDAS film since Wreck-It Ralph in theatres within the first 3 weeks (I didn't catch Frozen until a month in, but I still managed to sneak in a viewing of Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II on opening weekend just before finals), and I was really looking forward to seeing this at the nearest drive-in when they announced this was still coming to theatres, but that last part really didn't pan out.

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    2 hours ago, filmlover said:

    A handful of chains aren't showing the movie because Disney is still asking for their usual absurd terms despite the movie being available to watch at home the same day.

     

    That's here in the US at least. Not sure about everywhere else.

    It's even worse up here in Canada. Cineplex is far and away the biggest chain here with 164 theatres and none of them are showing Raya. The next two largest chains, Landmark and Imagine, are showing it but combined they only have 59 theatres (Landmark has 45, Imagine has 14) of which a handful are still closed, which to be honest, screws over Imagine far more than Landmark. Premier, a drive-in chain here, isn't showing it here either.

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    36 minutes ago, El Squibbonator said:

    That's always been the conventional wisdom, but the success of Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse does seriously call it into question.

     

    As for Raya itself, the "action-movie" aspects were mostly played up by the early trailers. The later trailers, however, made it out to be a more generic "kid's" movie, complete with one-liners and fart jokes. The same thing actually happened with both Big Hero 6 and Moana. Their early trailers suggested they were more dramatic and action-oriented than they actually were, and the later trailers gave a more accurate depiction of the movie's tone. Frozen did the opposite--its first trailer made it out to be a goofy comedy, and only later did the advertising reveal it to be a musical with a fairly serious plot. 

    I don't really think that was the case with Big Hero 6 and Moana's early trailers. Big Hero 6's teaser is literally just a montage of Hiro struggling to put on Baymax's armour that's played for laughs, while Moana's arguably played up the musical aspects of the film more, while introducing Maui.

    I was going to say Zootopia hued closest since it's teaser sort of laid the groundwork for the main premise (even if it made Nick look more like the main character), but then I remembered the sloth trailer exist, so maybe not.

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