Ms Lady Hawk
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30 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said:
To be fair that's because from 1990-92 Costner was arguably the biggest movie star in the world.
DANCES WITH WOLVES - $424m (57% international)
ROBIN HOOD - $390m (58% international)
JFK - $210m (66% international)
Even when Costner's career floundered domestically he was still able to post good numbers abroad whereas Houston's other movies did nothing internationally
Well her other movies mostly targeted black audiences, so I’m not sure they would appeal internationally. Cinderella was a mega hit on tv and has withstood the test of time. I didn’t see Kevin anywhere near that project. Not taking anything away from Kevin. I love him. However, remember he wanted Whitney and only Whitney for The Bodyguard. He waited a whole year for her to finish her tour when he could have easily gone with another actress or star.
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5 minutes ago, Flopped said:
Spears was a teen sensation. Whitney wasn't confined to an age group. Also, nothing tops The Bodyguard taking over the world as a movie and soundtrack. It literally made more $ than freaking Aladdin internationally.
Britney Spears was famous but Whitney was a transcendent talent. She is one of few artists with COUNT THEM… THREE DIAMOND albums. I think Britney has two. Whitney is the only black artist with that honor. She is the only artist with seven consecutive number one hits. Some diminish her accomplishments because of her later years. She appealed to many, and has the top selling gospel album of all time. Plus she made movies. She produced and starred in Cinderella which was at one point the most watched movie on the ABC network. Whitney crossed over and appealed to the white audience and international audiences. Correct me if I am wrong but I don’t think Britney ever appealed to black audiences.-
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Oh yeah I can do this. Favorite Whitney songs:
1. You Give Good Love- from Whitney Houston album
2. I’m Every Woman- from The Bodyguard
3. Don’t Cry For Me. I first heard this on the night she died.
4. If You Say My Eyes Are Beautiful- from her Greatest Hits
5. Try It On My Own- from just Whitney
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45 minutes ago, excel1 said:
Controversial take but I just don't think Whitney Houston had the star power later in her career to leave a large fanbase hungry for a film for her. She had an insanely high career peak in the early 90s, but that was about it, and then torpedoed downwards as everyone knows.
This is not true. Didn’t Elvis also have a spiral? How about Judy Garland? What was so spectacularly unusual about Whitney’s? The fact that there’s been so much content in a short period of time is the better explanation in my opinion.-
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3 minutes ago, Eric in Boots said:
I Wanna Dance with Somebody Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count
Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 64 459 8543 5.37% Total Seats Sold Today: 170
Comp
0.956x of Respect (621K)
0.324x of Candyman (616K)
0.145x of Nope (930K)
1.103x of Beast (1.02M)
0.369x of The Woman King (628K)
That’s a pretty rough day for I Wanna Dance. It dropped against all comps. I was hoping it would be a break out hit.
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5 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold Babylon 1-Hr Jax 5 20 4 53 1,823 2.91% Phx 7 25 15 133 2,442 5.45% Ral 8 22 53 171 1,995 8.57% Total 20 67 72 357 6,260 5.70% I Wanna Dance 1-Hr Jax 5 25 34 160 2,167 7.38% Phx 7 28 22 133 2,960 4.49% Ral 9 31 51 212 3,261 6.50% Total 20 84 107 505 8,388 6.02% I Wanna Dance T-1 hr comps
- Elvis - .316x (1.01m)
- Easter Sunday - 3.117x (1.56m)
- Respect - 2.08x (1.35m)
- House of Gucci - .754x (980k)
- King Richard - missed
All drama movies - 919k
All PG-13 movies - 1.02m
All 2pm preview movies - 1.04m
All movies - 1.08m
Looks like a solid 1m for previews.
Babylon T-1 hr comps
- Elvis - .224x (716k)
- Bullet Train - .24x (804k)
- Amsterdam - 1.313x (722k)
- Death on the Nile - missed
- Lost City - .356x (890k)
All drama movies - 650k
All R movies - 812k
All 3pm previews movies - 730k
All movies - 762k
I'll go with 750k for Babylon.
Based on these numbers, if they come to fruition, how much can we expect for these two for the Friday to Sunday and then for the Friday to Monday?
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20 minutes ago, AJG said:
The family is super Christian and go above and beyond to protect Whitney Houtons image. They denied the bisexual stuff, they lied on Bobby Brown and blamed him for introducing her to drugs (turns out Whitney and her brothers were on crack since they were teens), they denied that Dionne Warricks sister molested Whitney as a child.
Unless there was some heavy soul searching I just can't beleive this particular estate would ever produce an interesting biopic.
Bobby was a terrible husband to Whitney. No one in her family ever accused him of introducing her to drugs. The public assumed it. He was so insecure and jealous of her fame. I remember reading that she had to change the name of her production company to Brownhouse because of his insecurity. He abused her both physically and emotionally. Stop defending him. With that said, I hope there is more concentration on her music and voice rather than the salacious stuff. She truly had the best voice I’ve ever heard. I can’t wait to see this movie.
Whitney had a one time sexual encounter with Robyn Crawford- according to her book. That encounter happened before she was famous. To our knowledge there were never any other women. So I think out of respect for Whitney, people shouldn’t categorize her sexuality for better or for worse. Best to just tell the story and let people take what they will from it. I do believe Whitney was abused by her cousin.
I think most girls growing up on the late 80s and 90s were fans of hers and I am no exception.
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So happy for Minions. My son loves those little guys. Somehow he can sometimes make out what they’re saying. We’re going to see it this weekend. Clearly, Universal made the right call holding off on its release. This is vindication that Gru and his minions are still a huge draw.
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GrossD 1 (1) Spider-Man: No Way Home $2,242,906 -20% -49% 4,012 $559 $675,813,257 2 -
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2 hours ago, Krissykins said:
Wonder Woman 1984 is officially the top title on VOD rentals in 2021 in the UK.
No Time To Die beat it in disc sales and digital downloads.
I just saw this. Rentals, dvd sales and subscriptions probably made WB very happy with their decision, even though most fans were unhappy with the day and date. Bravo!
At least Variety have WW84 part of the headline.
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I think Spider-Man’s numbers are fine. At this point, does its dailies even matter? It’s already a massive/top ten grossing film of all time. Fantastic run!!!
With that said, I’ve had disagreements with Legion too. But I know that he is here just having fun and providing his interesting perspective per usual. No need to name call. We don’t want to derail this thread.
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
I’m very saddened by the Matrix’s box office but I realize that it’s been sacrificed at the alter of steaming. If HBOMAX gets more subscribers then Warner is more than willing to make that trade.
32.5 million cow NWH would be quite an outstanding boost from the estimated 30.1 for today. Considering Zack in the tracking thread informed us that at Alpha, the walkups were excellent yesterday, then today was even better. Maybe there’s hope yet for tomorrow to reach well over 20 million.
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55 minutes ago, Weird Alegion said:
Well, actually…
When?
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Well damn, finally a movie that all BOT can agree met or exceeded expectations during and pre-COVID. There’s never been a time where Far From Home’s performance would not be considered absolutely spectacular. Congrats to Sony and the MCU. Congrats to the fans who believed. I was not one who believed this was possible. Happy to eat crow and admit that I was wrong. My favorite Spider-Man movie is Spider Man 2 with Tobey McGuire. Can’t wait to see this one with my son.
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11 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
AMC CEO….
”Just staggering Spidey numbers: 1.1 million people watched the new Spider-Man movie @AMCTheatres in the U.S. yesterday! Biggest AMC opening day grosses for a December movie ever. Second biggest opening at AMC of all time. Biggest one day sales for any movie in all of ‘20 and ‘21!”
Which MTC chain is AMC? Is it 1 or 2. Maybe can extrapolate previews from that?
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What’s the difference in how the data is interpreted? How come Charlie gets 48m from 930-950 and Keyser 52m from 915-925? Either way, these are bonkers numbers.
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Wow! Even I have to say that based on what our trackers are seeing, Deadline is really low. Don’t they have experts who can see the same data? Maybe they’re predicting that the movie will be extremely presales heavy due to the pandemic. I think some like baumer think the same thing. We’ll just have to wait and see. Will be exciting to see how things develop.
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11 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
Yikes. Last few pages are real gloomy.
1. The sales have not crashed or it is not Solo. They are holding really well but not Endgame level. That's it. Many folks were comparing EG day 1 sales and coming to conclusion it will/can be 300+, but we all knew that day 1 was sorta heavily hyped for sales.
2. That said, I do think it will be frontloaded. I am currently thinking ~210-230M OW off ~$50M previews. Full run may be $530-600M.
You know such a FLOP.
Would you say 50 million preview has over 50% chance of happening? I think a movie doing that amount in previews during these pandemic times is absolutely incredible. If the numbers are huge, this may snowball and maybe blunt the frontloadedness some are seeing in the presales. People love to jump on the latest craze and there are some who will go to the movies just to see what all the hub-bub is about.
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8 minutes ago, Multiverse of XXR said:
Who's expecting that? The biggest true Friday number I've seen floated around is like $77M but most are in the $60-70M range.
The people who thought the trailer views and presales translated to ow bigger than or equal to Endgame.
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12 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Of the openers sorry. Best hold in the top 10 aside from re-expanding Dune.
It’s going to pass the first one domestically.
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Didn’t Endgame make almost 100 million on its first true Friday? How can anyone expect this movie to come anywhere near that? That is setting yourself up for disappointment. So far, the experts on this board like Porthos, keyser, Charlie, etc… have provided realistic data. If anyone wants to dream up bigger numbers, then that’s on them and not the movie. As it stands now, I am surprised/shocked that we could see an o/u 250 million opening week for a movie during the pandemic. That’s incredible.
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1 minute ago, TwoMisfits said:
Just be careful putting too much faith and "OW Math conversion" on the initial day rush - it's gonna be movie subscribers and fanbase today...whether GA non fans buy for the OW or wait it out is still TBD., both based on later increased theater set decisions and family viewing decisions...
I'd expect 98% of subscriber bases bought today (b/c we know current subscribers are not the base going to adult movies seeing thos turnouts, but are "blockbuster seeking" subscribers, and this is the most desired movie of that group in the surveys)...so we'll see how further days go...
Thank you! I know we need to wait for a bit more data, but this is exciting. Still committed to my 135 opening week prediction. Spider Man movies seem to always start very very strong in pre-sales.
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Exciting times. We all knew there would be a rush to buy. Will be interesting to watch how the trend plays out. How huge will this be?
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Christmas Weekend Thread | Avatar 95.6m, PiB 20.05m, Babylon 4.85m 4 days
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They’re probably trolling. It’s so ridiculous that I didn’t even bother with that post. Almost every season of American Idol or The Voice has at least a few come on and attempt to sing a Whitney song. I never hear anyone sing Fantasy or whatever else they mentioned in the post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion so there’s that.