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I’m seeing some really high predictions here. Guys and Gals, please do not set yourselves up for disappointment when it does fantastic numbers but not the numbers you put out there. Those thinking it will do 200 million opening week will be crestfallen if it does under 150. No meltdowns please! The board can get sort of toxic when that happens. With that said, I am so happy to see Doc Ock back.. Spider Man 2 is my favorite Soider-Man movie and one of my favorite movies period, so I am praying this does gangbusters.
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That is really rotten. Wow! I can’t stand the Razzies. Some of my favorites have been nominated in the past. I know the RT score is bad, but the audience metrics are the real surprise for me. I wonder how Disney will handle the sequel? Will they change the tone and If so, how? Will they move on from the Eternals? Luckily, the MCU has earned a lot of currency with the general audience, so there’s a lot of trust that they’ll do the right thing and correct any perceived missteps with this movie.
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This is all so interesting. In the Eternals thread, I kind of bought into the critics v ga argument being made by some. But when you look at the critical reception and more scientific ga metrics, it seems both weren’t too enthusiastic about this movie. It’s kind of baffling, as I thought this movie was better than other MCU entries- like Thor 2. The only thing I can figure is that although the cinematography was on point. I mean the movie is visually fantastic, but visually darker than most MCU films. There are more dark and gloomy skies, and dark tones.
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Some people are really losing it in this thread. Wow! Anyway, I’m going to see Eternals tonight. Every movie studio has its hits and misses. Was bound to happen for the MCU too. Relax! The box office numbers aren’t even bad. It’s not the movie’s fault that some people were ready to crown it “the first 100 mil opener of the pandemic era”.
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I don’t think we want to get into a majority v. minority argument based on your anecdotal evidence. Maybe you visit places on the net that confirm your priors? Maybe your friends think like you? RT verified score for WW84 is 73%. RT overall critics rating is 58%, so a majority of critics were fresh. The average top critic score on RT IS 71%. Metacritic score is 60. Even the low IMDB score of 5.4 which is slightly greater than 5/10. So I would disagree that a majority of people hated it. I think the movie was divisive with passion on both sides. Okay, this is my last post about WW84. I don’t want to get yelled at by the mods. Let’s talk about this movie, shall we?
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I don’t think Warner stockholders were disappointed. WW84 was a smash for HBOMAX. It helped put it on the streaming map. I think the blinders cuts both ways. People who hated something like to think everyone should hate it too. In any event, I think if we continue on this track, the mods will scold us. Ultimately, we have a movie here that appears to be a creative and new vibe for the MCU. Maybe it’s going to take critics and audiences time to warm to it. Some people love the the same formula and if there is any departure from that, it kind of shakes them up.
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Why would you say that? Because you didn’t like it? I don’t know why folks have to continue to bring up WW84. As far as critics, I think both movies will probably have people believe they didn’t deserve their rottens. Looks like fans may like Eternals more than WW84 (MCU’s huge fan base helps with that) and critics hated Eternals more than they did WW84. All subjective and that’s why we should all judge for ourselves.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Ms Lady Hawk replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
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Yaaasss! RT has some blog critics who probably couldn’t get people they know to pay them any mind. WW84 had way more viciousness on this site than Eternals. I don’t see anyone gleeful and actively rooting for the movie’s score to keep falling. Anyway, I love that stare down video with Angelina Jolie v the cast. She’s great! I hope people don’t pay too much attention to the critics and give the movie a chance. I know, I will. It sounds like Marvel is trying something different and I’m intrigued.
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Yeah, WW84 is in the rare situation where the top critic score is higher than the overall score. if people want to see a movie, they will see it. Most people have never heard of RT. Even if Eternals is the first rotten movie in the MCU, it may not matter. The MCU has built up such good will that it will still make its money. In terms of critics, the MCU gets the benefit of the doubt. That’s why it surprises me that Eternals is only barely fresh. For instance, I liked Captain Marvel but don’t see it as superior to WW84, but alas… It’s still early, so maybe the RT score will go up. Too soon to make any conclusions.
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I am so happy for V2! My ex who is also my son’s idiotic father took him to see the first one. I was sort of pissed off because I thought the content would be too much for a child to handle. I mean, who thinks it’s appropriate for a child to watch an alien eating heads? But he loved it. It was all he could talk about for a week and he really wants to see a Venom v Spidey movie. He hasn’t seen this one yet, but is excited about it. Kudos to Sony, Tom Hardy and all involved.
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This is an excellent number for Shang Chi. Fabulous news for the movie industry and a relief to movie theater lovers. Disney was spot on with their BW estimate and many thought it may be low balled too. According to Keyser in the tracking thread, barring walk ups making up the difference, the Sunday estimate may be right on the money as well. Low balled or not, this movie is the triumph of the summer (caveat: BW was expected to do very well). For a little known super hero to explode on to the scene this way must be gratifying for everyone associated with it. That’s something to celebrate for sure.
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Personally, I think anything over 50 million for a new superhero who most people never heard of is great. Many complain about the meltdowns, but part of the reason why they happen is because we have trackers who are also super fans. They want certain moves to succeed and others to fail. There are also trackers/numbers people who play it down the middle and their numbers are often close to the actual numbers. I mean people like Rth, Keyser, Porthos, Katniss and a few others. If people stopped setting expectations so unrealistically high, then the meltdowns would lessen. I am in no rush to see it, but the movie will do great this weekend. Happy to have an Avenger that especially Asian Americans can celebrate.