Ms Lady Hawk

No amount of marketing could save this movie in the US and Europe. Most of those countries are closed. My God, why is that so hard for people to grasp? The decision to sacrifice this movie to streaming was the original sin in this whole fiasco.

I think you’re letting that China box office affect your opinion a bit too much. IMDB ratings are average for a comic book movie. RT rating will probably end some where in the mid to low 80s (fingers crossed), so I think it would have been fine. Still think it would have made a billion. But yeah, I can see why people would think it wouldn’t. It’s something we will never know. I just don’t think one can underestimate the pomp and circumstance before a big movie opens and how the lack of it can affect the movie’s performance. What movie will be the first to a billion after the pandemic? I’ll be interested to see.

This is fair. This is a reasoned opinion rather than wishful thinking that some on this site love to do.

The same reason people who feel it DEFINITELY would not have made it. Also with not much to show for proof. I think it would have made 1B, but I didn’t say definite. Those of you who say no seem to have a looking glass which can forecast things in a no Covid world.

What huge markets other than China and some Asian markets are functioning even close to normally? I think the Chinese box office would have been better in normal times as well. Maybe 80-100 million. This movie did not have the kind of roll out that can lead to any sort of extrapolations as to how it would have performed under normal circumstances. Even in markets that are not shut down, there have been no fan events, no red carpets, no full throttle adverts. So although WW84 likely would not have grown substantially in China or other Asian markets, I think it would have grown elsewhere in the world including the US.

If that thought helps you sleep at night, have at it.😂😂

What does this mean? Joker came after the first WW. Before the first WW, DC had a rep of releasing crap. Their reputation is much better now. Under normal circumstances, actors and studios would be putting in work. Meaning there would be red carpets, fan interaction, press junkets, full throttle adverts... Nothing is normal right now. Nothing leads me to believe that this movie would not have done gangbusters. China would be icing on the cake.

We’re talking about WW84. Not the first WW. So what’s your point? Nothing I’ve seen so far would lead me to believe that WW84 would not have done better internationally than the first one. The good will and the love people had for the first one would have carried over. Plus, the RT score shows that it is a good movie. There’s no reason to believe that it would not have done very well and possibly 1B. Some of you are so euphoric about the box office of a movie being released in the midst of a global pandemic. LOL. Had this not been an attempted money grab by AT&T to juice their HBO MAX subscriptions, this movie would have done great. You can doubt my reasoning and I can doubt yours. We will never know who’s right. The only objective truth is that releasing a blockbuster movie in theaters now was not a smart decision.

BULL! Didn’t Joker hit 1B without China?

Wait, what’s wrong with a 67 metacritic score? Some people are really doing the mostest trying to take away the one bright spot for the movie during this entire fiasco created by AT&T. The movie is well received thus far. FULL STOP!

Good reviews so far. Hope it continues, but they will make me even madder at AT&T. They just threw this movie away, as they did their entire 2021 slate. I want to see this at the movies and will look for drive ins to see it on the big screen. Movies theaters are closed on the entire northeast of the US.

AT&T is a much bigger company than Disney. Take a look at the, net income, total equity and the revenue. Back on topic, I am still not over how stupid this decision was by AT&T. They just don’t care about the movie industry. That is abundantly clear. Although, I don’t think they would have ever done this to The Batman! I am sickened by this decision. We’ve had to endure so much with this pandemic. I was looking forward to celebrating my return to the movie theaters in the summer by seeing this movie. It would have had a great run.

What an idiotic decision by WB/AT&T. I am beyond disappointed. This movie could have helped to bring the movie industry back.

Thank you, grim22! I wonder what the initial tracking numbers were.

So ten minutes longer than the first film. Okay! Cool.

🔥 Trailer is amazing! OMG!

Pics look fantastic! But this movie is likely going to get delayed again. We have an idiots in charge in the US, Brazil and Mexico. Don’t see how things get better in three months, but man am I hoping. Can’t wait for this!

Well, it moved but I don’t know about this date for release either. We have no real leadership in the US and currently, States are opening and are seeing spikes. Many epidemiologist suspect a second wave will come in the fall. As much as I hate to say it or see it, this movie will likely move again.

As much as I am excited for this movie, I cannot believe that they are going to release it on August 14th. That date will not maximize the box office potential for this film. Hard to build anticipation during a pandemic that will stretch into the winter. It should move to December or Spring 2021. What’s happened to the movie industry and to the world because of this pandemic is depressing. Hopefully, we come out of it soon.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/31/amc-ceo-hopes-theaters-will-open-by-mid-june-moviegoers-will-return.html KEY POINTS AMC’s CEO hopes that locations will be able to open by mid-June. Adam Aron, CEO of AMC Entertainment, admits that it is unclear exactly when the movie theater industry will be back on its feet in the wake of the coronavirus, but he’s certain moviegoers will be eager to return to cinemas. Because of theater closures across the country and internationally, studios have been vacating their release dates through June and July.

So? If WB had to choose between the two, WW would win each and every time. Dune can move, if the virus becomes a huge problem that hinders the film industry through the summer. Moving Eternals to December and BW to November is fine.

I liked the first trailer. This one is better. Definitely think they should move it to maximize box office. Put it in the place of The Eternals in November and move Eternals to next year. If I were WB, I would also move WW to December. Pains me to say that, but the handling of this virus has been so poor in the US that I am not certain we’ll be out of the woods by the summer.

Oh, I certainly hope you’re right. We’ve already had one delay and I would absolutely not make it through another few months of waiting.

What spoilers are being discussed? I have not seen any. The swinging on lightning that I mentioned is in the trailer. So maybe others have included spoilers. I have seen people refer to Steve’s return, but in a non specific way.

It’s a comic book movie. There’s usually not logic involved. Kind of like someone getting rid of 1/2 the population of the universe with one snap and then five years later, some super heroes travel back in time to undo everything. That worked extremely well, because people were invested in the story. There are many people invested in WW and Steve. I recall during the review period for the first film, many critics remarked on how ridiculous many of the lines were: “My mother sculpted me from clay and I was bought to life by Zeus”, yet people just went with it. It’s all about how it comes together on screen in its finished form.