Ms Lady Hawk
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Hopefully, BOP can go on to have a respectable run at the box office. I don’t think it lacked marketing. I do think the trailers were $hit. Judging by the critic and fan reaction, it is a good movie, but the trailers did not make it look so.
In any event, this is another notch in DC’s belt as far as critical acclaim. I don’t think people can go around trashing DC for making bad films any more. They have churned out some solid films the past two years. Now, they have to figure out their own model to build their brand to where their C characters can have true breakout movies.
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Really good trailer. Never heard of this character but I want to see the movie.
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1 hour ago, CJohn said:
Scarlett needs to say more racist and tone deaf shit. Maybe next time she gets 3 noms instead of 2. Also, lmao at JLo missing for Scarlett.
Awkwafina was robbed because the Academy needed to nominate someone black and they went with Cynthia.
I don’t like the racist crap on the academy either. But why single out the single minority nomination as the least deserving one? Why couldn’t both the black actress and the Asian actress be nominated! Why act like the black actress stole something from the Asian actress? The Academy is made up of a lot of old white men. Maybe one of the other white actresses shouldn’t have been nominated?
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21 minutes ago, stephanos13 said:
Did Deadline turn into Disney's PR suddenly? What is going on?
I don’t know about Deadline as a whole, but Alessandro has ALWAYS been a Disney fan boy. In any case, in this instance I am hoping against all odds that he is right. TROS is better than TLJ in my opinion and deserves to smack it box office wise. But that is not the way the box office works. There may be an over saturation issue with the Star Wars movies.
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Nothing is coming close to Endgame for a long time. I would guess at least a decade. The next film behind Endgame right now is 100 million lower (IW). I hate to break it to James Cameron, but Avatar 2 isn’t going to do it nor will it gross more than Endgame WW. Perhaps the re-release is Avatar will reclaim top spot WW. I do think it will be a while before anyone tops The Force Awaken domestic total as well. Maybe the same movie that tops Endgame’s OW will also top Force Awakens domestic and Endgame WW!
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Took the morning off to see this. I hope it’s good. I was bullish on Solo and it disappointed me both expectation wise and box office performance wise. I didn’t love TLJ. I am one of few SW fans who really liked the prequels. I don’t really see why people hate them so much. I hope I like this one more than TLJ.
My SW rankings:
Empire Strikes BackRevenge of The Sith
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
Attack of the Clones
A New Hope
The Phantom Menace
The Last Jedi
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3 minutes ago, Wonder89 said:
Why nonsense? If this movie not reach 1B is a flop
Joker reached 1B without a single dollar from China! So please spare me the melodrama. We will just have to wait and see. If you’re comfortable forecasting movie performances appearing on lists, then more power to you. Maybe some major studio should hire you to forecast flops, disappointment, blockbusters and the like? Fact is you don’t know how any of these movies will do. None of us do. To suggest WW won’t make 1B based on a list months before release does nothing but show your bias. Again, none of us know.
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Just now, Wonder89 said:
I think WW is a great franchise, but after the JL flop they need to restart everything (except Aquaman). They need to restart the WW franchise without Patty.
WW is part of the trinity and will not have a movie over 1B. Minor characters like Aquaman, Captain Marvel and next year Black Widow will have movie over 1B
Yeah! Ok... Nonsense!
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16 minutes ago, Wonder89 said:
WW84 under BoP worldwide?
What is the matter with you? Why so pessimistic? We are months away from the release and if I am correct, China’s box office is based a lot of Mouyan (sic) scores. If the movies on the list are shit, they won’t do well. It’s okay if you’re rooting against WW84, but please don’t beat us over the head with it. We get it, you think the movie will disappoint. Move on!
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Star Wars franchise is one of the strongest around. Yet, Rise of Skywalker’, which is expected to open between 180-210 million “only” has 34 million views on its main YouTube channel for the first trailer. The main thing is that the WW84 trailer was certainly enough to whet the appetite and anticipation for the movie.
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1 hour ago, belblazer said:
Well this is just for the trailers before the releases, and now that everyone has seen all of it, Wonder Woman won.
Anecdotally speaking, the two online polls show that there was more excitement to see BW’s trailer. That is not totally surprising because this is her first movie. However, once people saw both trailers, the support for BW declined and WW went up.
Most people do not go online and therefore probably have not seen the trailers. Therefore, if there is as much anticipation to see what BW has to offer, as the trailer poll showed, then the movie will do very well.
WW is more of a known quantity and I think the second poll shows what we all saw and what the internet reflected; i.e- the trailer was extremely well done and the reactions were very positive. I expect WB to keep building on that. The unveiling of Cheetah in full form will be an important component to how well the movie does at the box office.
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54 minutes ago, TheUndertaker said:
Won't make 30 million views, at least not without a bump after the movie coming out.
Right now I wonder if it will even pass BoP's 19 million.
Not saying it will correlate at all with box office but it is surprising to me that it's getting less views than the first movie's trailers had (and 30 million in 2017 was much better than 30 million in 2019). I don't think anyone can deny it's strange.
Ahhh, WW (origin) has 30 million views after three years- as in right now. That was the point I was making. In essence, trailer views didn’t seem to be as important a metric for WW.
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57 minutes ago, ChipMunky said:
I roll my eyes so hard when I visit this forum...
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WB wasn’t won the year since 2014, and DC hasn’t won the year since 2008.
2020 will change both of those.
You were spot on about the first movie, even after the opening weekend when almost everyone doubted you. Cochofiles was also on the bandwagon before it left the station. This time, I hope your instincts are right again. I have no idea what this one will do. However, I am very pleased with the trailer and the reaction to it. I am not worried about the trailer views. I think to date, the first Comic Con WW trailer has 30 million views. This one will likely surpass it. I don’t think WW metrics are entirely similar to other CM.
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1 minute ago, LegionofDoom said:
DC also have a male dominated fanbase. Captain Marvel was big hit with both men and women. From personal experience, Ithink DC is more male dominated.
Well, WW fanbase defies this and that is the point being made. WW was 50/50 gender split which is uncommon for superhero flicks.
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19 minutes ago, LegionofDoom said:
Trailer is not embedded on twitter. It is promoted to timeline of people who are less active on superhero accounts on twitter. I am sure you have just like me already liked and retweeted WW84 trailer.
No! Some movies appear as ads. I wouldn’t know about promos to less active superhero accounts because I am not one of those people. I know this trailer is not embedded. Some trailers start playing on timelines as soon as a user goes to their account.
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7 minutes ago, LegionofDoom said:
What makes you think WB didn't advertise Wonder Woman trailer? Most of the trailer nowadays are promoted through the social media. The basic point of releasing trailer is to advertise it.
Please read the post by Nova. Of course it is being advertised. However, it was not (from what I could see) embedded as an ad or promotion on Twitter and YT.
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3 hours ago, Nova said:
Also in regards to trailer views whether on YouTube or on Twitter.....I’m always cautious with them predicting “hype” or comparing them to other movies now a days because it’s very easy to manipulate views of a trailer if you’re having it play as an ad before other videos on YouTube or you have it pinned as a “promoted” tweet on Twitter so it hops in people’s timelines. I have no idea whether WW is having that done for it or not BUT I notice some films do and some films don’t. *For example, I had BW pop up on my twitter timeline as a promoted tweet and it played as a scrolled by it.
*Other films have that. I was just using BW as an example because it’s very recent.
Now, this is a great point. I do see that sometimes too. I think it is masterful advertising. It would have been a good idea for Warner to do that for WW84. When I open my Twitter, there was a story about the trailer which did not include a package of the trailer automatically playing.
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Trailer views are interesting to watch, but they are not the end all, be all by any means. Plus, this trailer dropped differently from other movies, where many people watched the live stream on twitter. Therefore, it may not be an exact apples to apples comparison to other films. I guess we will see how things play out from here. Anyway, I am very pleased with the reaction to the trailer. Have not seen many negative reactions at all.
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13 minutes ago, Menor said:
~2 hours:
YT: 478k views (frozen), 86k likes
Twitter: 1.3 million views
Facebook: 418k views
Thanks! However, that was the view count after 1 hour. I checked it. YT has not updated.
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Great trailer. I am happy with it. Would have loved to have seen Cheetah in her final form, but they have to save something for later. June 6, 2020 cannot come soon enough.
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How can anyone say that this has no hype? Even Ava DuVernay is excited and she’s in the business. I don’t know what this will make at the box office, but it has tremendous potential.
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1 minute ago, aladdino said:
I dont think there's nearly as much hype as there was with WW, being the 'first' big female superhero movie and all
I disagree! The hype around the release of the first poster was bananas! The first WW had hype too but there was some cautious optimism, as the reputation of the DCEU was a bit toxic at the time. Now, the DCEU is on a roll and DC in general is on a roll. Three of the last four DC Comics movies have been well received and smashed the box office. There is tremendous hype for this on various sites. People are excited to see what Cheetah looks like too.
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3 hours ago, Krissykins said:
Who are these people? Lol
Can’t wait for the trailer.
Me too. Anyone have any idea what time the trailer is supposed to drop? What time does the presentation start over in Brazil? The thing about Sunday here in the States is that Sunday Twitter is all about football. I hope it can get maximum exposure like Black Widow did. With Black Widow, WW84, Milan, Birds of Prey, I am so happy that young girls coming up will have movies that show women can kick ass too.
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Yeah, like they were making fun of her swinging on lightning. Yet lo and behold, that scene from the trailer is what for the biggest reaction. One never knows until the movie comes out what audiences will like and what they want.