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Russia $2.7M thu, $6.4M 2 days. THU numbers are still updated, but there won't be significant changes, I'd say $6.5-6.6M.
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TROS is doing very bad in Russia and Ukraine.
In Russia they gained $5,77M with 1,11M admissions, which is much lower, than FA ($12,39M and 2,67M adm.) and TLJ ($8,52M and 1,63M adm).
On December 26, the film sank to the third place, behind two new local hits, and slightly above another local film which premiered a week earlier than TROS.
In Ukraine film premiered with horrible 164k admissions, which is less than Jumanji's sequel sophomore weekend (168K). TROS took the first place thanks only to the benefit of higher ticket prices.
There are some examples of films which had better start in Ukraine:
Terminator: Dark Fate - 169K
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil - 262K
It Chapter Two - 242K
Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood - 232K
The Hustle - 198K
Pokémon Detective Pikachu - 206K
Alita: Battle Angel - 269K
Glass - 179K
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Joker became 12th films with 1M+ admissions in Ukraine.
"One million" club:
1. Avatar - 1 544 523 admissions
2. Avengers: Endgame - 1 408 286
3. The Lion King (2019) - 1 373 391
4. Pirates of the Caribbean: Salazar's Revenge - 1 243 987
5. The Secret Life of Pets - 1 182 908
6. Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle - 1 168 347
7. Avengers: Infinity War - 1 108 030
8. Aquaman - 1 088 018
9. Venom - 1 067 164
10. Suicide Squad - 1 047 985
11. Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation - 1 010 605
12. Joker - 1 001 398
Joker won't improve much, since only 28K ticket have been sold during past week.
Next club member will be Maleficent: Mistress of Evil. It's at 865k admission as of the end of November 10th, 109k tickets been sold last week, it's dynamics better than Joker's. It will inevitably achieve 1M admissions during 6th or 7th weekend just like Joker did.
Maleficent performs great in Russia too, it has already outperformed Joker there and currently at 4th place in yearly boxoffice behind Lion King, final Avengers and local WWII action T-34.
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Box office tab of film on IMDb Pro:
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Daily, weekend and weekly charts for domestic box office, weekend charts for major foreign markets and overall gross for some minor foreign markets. No links to all-time charts, breakdowns and showdowns. The charts themselves look ok I guess.
Genres, brands and franchises are messy now. Genres charts include keywords:
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Brands include studios, famous collaborations (Burton+Depp). And charts limited to 200 top films in Pro version too.
Archive.org is not available at the moment, so can't check specific data correctness.
I still don't see which depth BO data would interest usual IMDb Pro users. I don't see which IMDb Pro features would interest me. I guess three subscription plans would be optimal: usual IMDb Pro stuff + BO data, just IMDB Pro stuff, just BO data. Of course, they have to clean up the mess with genre and brand charts, link box office tab of the movies to all record charts and showdowns. That at least would return the lost value of free old BOM.
Release schedule is better now. Would be nice to include streaming / BD / DVD release dates for movies and TV shows, that's definitely a payable feature.
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BoxOfficeMojo was free, whom they asked? IMDbPro users? So it's not about attracting new users, who are willing to pay for data access? No different subscription plans: 1) usual IMDB Pro features + BO data, 2) only usual IMDb Pro features, 3) only BO data.
There's no reasonable business logic besides to minimize resources for integration BOM database into IMDb system. Some breakdowns and other information unavailable (that's just web representation of DB queries)? That's clearly IMDb Pro users feedback, they don't want this to exist! I guess it's really hard and very expensive to maintain hyperlinks with db query results. Especially if you not considering to monetize from those who used to visit BOM on daily basis for niche BO data.
Just typical press-release bullshit.
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Ukraine records:
1. Fastest to 1M admissions - 10 days. Previous record holder: DMtnT - 17 days.
2. Widest release - 521 screens. Previous record holder: IW - 437 screens.
Fastest to 500k admissions though still held by DMtnT - 522k admissions in 4 days against 518k of EG. And it was achieved with 427 screens, so DMtnT is still most frontloaded feature in Ukraine.
By the end of the 5th may EG had 1.13M admissions (5th overall in modern Ukraine history). Avatar's overall - 1.54M. No strong competitors before Aladdin's premiere. Usually heavy-frontloaded movies take about 70-75% of their overall admissions by the end of the second weekend, so EG has quite good chances to overtake Avatar.
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Aquaman became the ninth film in the Ukrainian box office with over 1M admissions - 1 088 000 admissions as of March 10.
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Venom became the eighth film in the Ukrainian box office with over 1M admissions.
Rank Title Admissions Year 1 Avatar 1 544 523 2009 2 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales 1 243 987 2017 3 The Secret Life of Pets 1 182 908 2016 4 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle 1 168 347 2017 5 Avengers: Infinity War 1 108 030 2018 6 Suicide Squad 1 047 985 2016 7 Venom 1 034 278 2018 8 Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation 1 010 605 2018 9 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted 955 602 2012 10 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 928 616 2011 -
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And major update for all-time Ukraine box office. Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle is having a wonderful time here - 1 150 326 admissions after the 6th weekend, and now at the 4th place just behind The Secret Life of Pets.
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Sorry for the late reply. I compiled list from different sources, but as I checked some data on Wikipedia, I've suddenly come across excellent up-to-date article about highest-grossing Ukrainian feature films since 1991. It's only in Ukrainian, so here what columns mean (from left to right):
"Назва фільму" - title of the movie
"Країна виробник" - production country(ies)
"Світові касові збори" - worldwide gross, $
"Касові збори в Україні, $" - gross in Ukraine, $
"Касові збори в Украиїні, ₴" - - gross in Ukraine in national currency
"Глядачів в Укаїні" - admissions in Ukraine. That's what you need, just sort table by this column and you'll have the list in desired order.
"Бюджет, $" - production budget, $
"Рік" - year of release.
Each film has wiki page in Ukrainian, where you can find link for film's IMDb page, it's in the bottom of film card:
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After you sort films by admissions, in the bottom half of the table you'll see films with "невідомо" instead of number, which means "unknown". Admission are unknown for films that released before midst of 2008, when regularly box office reports started, or in some cases distributors refused to give admission numbers. But among such films only Сафо. Кохання без меж / Summer lover gathered significant admissions - about 205-215K, other films no more than 80K.
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On 16.11.2017 at 12:38 AM, zozo said:
Wow. I am looking for ukrainen stats for a while! I mostly interested in local movie productions. I'm trying to find useful datas (i am more interested in admission numbers).
I only find this: http://dergkino.gov.ua/media/film/katalog_ufg.pdf ( on page 8) But that's box office gross, and only until 2011
Is there any chance to have (even an ukrainian) article about the local movie admission numbers from the last ten years? (I'm not speaking that language, but using the google translate is more than nothing
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No, I'm not aware of such a list, but I'll try to compile it from the sources I've mentioned, somewhere around early January.
Thor: Ragnarok sustained huge drops during 2nd and 3rd weekends due to harder than thought competition from JL and MotOE (Bana grossed more than JL both in Russia and Ukraine (JL - 5th place with ₴39,5M and MotOE 6th place with ₴49M last weekend BO)). So despite the one of the best premiere weekends in terms of admissions and very good WOM, TR slightly overcame 800k admissions and failed to hit Ukrainian Top20.
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Ukraine all-time box-office. There is no centralized ticket sales accounting system in Ukraine, all data provided by local distributors to industry media outlets and consumer research companies.
Primary sources of data (admissions, gross in USD and local currency):
https://kino-teatr.ua/box.phtmlhttp://www.kinometro.ru/box/show/region/ua/
Distributors' reports are published in local currency since 2014 over huge exchange devaluation of hryvnia, so comparisons in USD had lost practical purports.
Gross in USD cross-checked or taken on http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/ukraine/
Regular ticket sales tracking in Ukraine started in 2008, before that there have been some fragmentary numbers, mainly press-releases from distributors. But I doubt I've missed some high-grossing movie, because modern movie theaters and multiplex chains emerged in Ukraine in early 00's. Ukraine box-office business hit all-time low in 1998-99 with yearly box-office about $1-1,5 mln and 4-5 mln admissions. By 2004 national box-office climbed to $24 mln, though this is unreliable data. So.Rank Title Year Admissions Gross, ₴ Gross, $ 1 Avatar 2009 1 544 286 ~ 70 000 000 8 738 665 2 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales 2017 1 242 373 96 380 052 3 673 723 3 The Secret Life of Pets 2016 1 182 908 73 098 521 2 828 174 4 Suicide Squad 2016 1 047 985 74 855 129 2 916 352 5 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted 2012 955 602 ~ 39 000 000 4 861 381 6 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 2011 928 616 ~ 42 000 000 5 268 571 7 Ice Age 4: Continental Drift 2012 914 330 ~ 36 000 000 4 513 729 8 Despicable Me 3 2017 892 101 61 224 325 2 347 558 9 2012 2009 889 196 ~ 26 000 000 3 256 007 10 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa 2008 888 803 ~ 21 000 000 3 626 871 11 Doctor Strange 2016 871 840 66 359 731 2 431 951 12 Minions 2015 861 038 45 053 369 1 979 561 13 Zootopia 2016 858 538 52 696 401 2 097 319 14 Shrek Forever After 2010 853 441 ~ 32 000 000 4 007 651 15 Viy (Вій 3D) 2014 849 577 ~ 38 000 000 4 554 937 16 Furious 7 2015 848 596 46 168 069 2 144 568 17 Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them 2016 837 005 65 723 605 2 407 458 18 Hotel Transylvania 2 2015 832 890 44 836 757 1 910 044 19 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2015 822 382 67 545 604 2 509 424 20 The Fate of the Furious 2017 820 471 63 393 338 2 357 506 DM3 still running on 3-5 screens.
Gross in local currency for films released before 2014 are calculated from grosses in USD using exchange rate of central bank at the month of movie premiere.
UPD. Add recent entries from 2015-17, which missed yesterday. Now only one non-hollywood movie, multinational with participation of Ukrainian and Russian companies, and 9 of 20 top films are feature animation.
UPD2. Thor: Ragnarok debuted with 395k admissions. The Fate of the Furious got 279k admissions first weekend, but hasn't faced any competition during second weekend, dropping only 40%. GOTG2 took 320K premiere weekend, got face-to-face fight witch Ritchie's King Arthur next FFS, then empty freeway before DMTNT. Final admissions - 810k. DS started with 244k, then good WOM and three weeks without serious competition, final result - 871k admissions. SS took 360k admissions and as you can see reached 1M audience.
Third Thor will definitely get in top-20, almost inevitable is Top10, but exact place depends on 2nd week drop, WOM, competition from JL and Orient Express (Depp, detective fiction and Hercule Poirot is appealing mix for Ukrainian moviegoers).
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Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves | March 31, 2023 | Paramount | Amazon Prime advance screenings March 19 @ 2 PM
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In ex-USSR and partially Eastern Europe countries, the trailer was well received. But only in geeks circles, that follow all pop culture news and watch all the trailers. The trailer reminded pre-LOTR fantasy - Ladyhawke, The Princess bride, A Knight's Tale. Counter-proposal to superhero genre, which frankly amounted a quite deal of tiredness. So yes, without an existing fan base it is very difficult to launch a franchise.
The main problem is the budget. Epic fantasy requires epic budget. For example, first John Wick movie (7.4 on IMDB) started with $86M at WW box-office and only with third film in series it had reached 300+ million globally. If D&D HAT (7,6 on IMDb) had a budget around $50M, the sequel would have already been greenlit. $100M - most likely. But launching with a blockbuster budget without huge dedicated fanbase behind (like Super Mario movie) is extremely risky right now.
I don't even know how to fix the situation. Perhaps a partnership with Apple or Amazon - they are now actively looking for feature movies to enter theatrical exhibition market. But these, of course, leads to another risks like producing participants disagreements.