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April 18

37 minutes ago, Reddroast said:

Considering they are saying this one is for the diehards...

They can't say anything else. I'm friends IRL with a few people who work on these movies - they're no-joke-not-exaggerating terrified of the hardcore Sonic fanbase 🤣

April 15

7 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Yeh it’s been a crap year box office wise.

Has it been? Feels like the only real disappointment has been THE FIRST OMEN, and that's a movie based on a dead franchise where the last movie was pretty badly-received (plus Disney waited till very late in the day to start marketing and even later in the day to tell the world 'Surprise, it's actually good!').

But looking at the rest of the calendar, the wide stuff has done about as well as could be expected (NIGHT SWIM and IMAGINARY performed like typical Blumhouse slow season dumps, LISA FRANKENSTEIN played like JENNIFER'S BODY without stars, etc) and IMMACULATE and LATE NIGHT WITH THE DEVIL both over-performed, at least compared to my expectations.

March 28

22 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

I find it interestring how Monsterverse has, historically, gotten way better reviews than Transformers. 3/5 movies being above 74% is crazy considering how Transformers was averaging like 20% until Bumblebee.

123 mins

118 mins

132 mins

113 mins

115 mins

vs.

144 mins

149 mins

154 mins

165 mins

154 mins

There's something to be said for pacing and not exhausting the audience.

March 28

1 hour ago, ReturnOfTheBoxOffice said:

Everyone knows those guys aren’t connected to reality. They went in to a movie called Godzilla x Kong expecting the Godfather and get personally offended when it isn’t.

This is silly. They went in expecting not to be bored when the monsters weren't on-screen, there's a difference.

March 27

34 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I don't buy this. There's no way it cost significantly less than at least Dune 2 with all of the huge CGI setpieces we've seen.

It's an hour shorter than DUNE 2.

March 14

21 hours ago, Brainbug said:

I cant stand them either, but out of curiosity what would be your rankings of the Monsterverse movies?

I have trouble rating them against each other because they aim for such different things (G2014 scale, KONG: SKULL ISLAND fun, KOTM awe/wonder with the monsters, etc). I just split the series into two tiers quality-wise:

Tier A:

GODZILLA 2014

KONG: SKULL ISLAND

GODZILLA: KING OF THE MONSTERS

Tier B:

GODZILLA VS. KONG

GODZILLA X KONG: THE NEW EMPIRE

But I still enjoy the movies in Tier B, and obviously plenty of people like GVK more than KOTM so GxK is probably more their speed.

March 13

I can't stand that guy or his opinions

March 2

16 hours ago, Mr Impossible said:

Let’s be honest with ourselves here. Audiences liked all of the LoTR movies more than the first Dune easily. This is not controversial and I really enjoyed the first Dune.

Definitely, and I don’t mean that as an insult toward DUNE. The LOTR movies were designed as crowdpleasers in a way DUNE wasn’t.

March 1

2 hours ago, TJ327 said:

I’ve been thinking - and I’m willing to concede this is not the most likely scenario - but have we considered the reason the numbers slowed right at the end is because of the hype?

By this point, anyone with a passing knowledge of the film has heard the immense critical hype. And they’re skeptical, because the public has a particularly antagonistic relationship with Hollywood at this point. So they see a movie being this immensely hyped and they can’t help but feel like it’s hyperbole.

So, they’re waiting to see if it’s actually as good as the critics say. They know the people who want to see it will have seen it over the weekend (my bf and I are seeing a Saturday matinee), and they’ll decide from then on if they wanna see it from there.

This is a terminally online way of thinking. Contrary to what angry people ranting at webcams on YouTube say the general public does not hate movie critics.

February 29

7 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

Well, it's good to know we are getting Dead Reckoning Part 2 this year after all.

That doesn't seem fair. DEAD RECKONING opened 11% lower than its predecessor and had the lowest 3-day M:I opening in 17 years. Even if DUNE: PART TWO undershoots all projections here, the worst it could possible do is what, $60M? The odds of that are incredibly low and it would still be a 50% increase.

February 29

I don't think streaming day-and-date affected DUNE as much as some believe, at least not in the U.S. - there was still a huge push to see it on the biggest, best screen possible.

February 27

1 hour ago, dallas said:

Yes. Anything that makes over $200M is a blockbuster in my eyes.

Quantumania out here like

February 26

They’ve tested this a couple times and I keep hearing positive things, even from people who expected not to like it.

February 21

3 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

But you still saw the first one, and you're on a box office forum talking movies. I didn't love the first Dune either, but I'm also still going to see Part 2. But also, I'm on a box office forum talking about movies.

General Audiences? I don't hear much buzz about this film in the same way I heard buzz about Barbie or even Oppenheimer. This film will do much better than the first, but I don't think it's going to be the surprise hit of the year like some are predicting/hoping.

I still don't think it's gonna pull a DARK KNIGHT and make 2.5x its predecessor's gross but a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes with an 8.7/10 average for a big spectacle movie is going to convince a fair few people to give it a chance.

February 21

On 2/8/2024 at 2:44 PM, ViewerAnon said:

I think this is the biggest factor. TOP GUN: MAVERICK was a phenomenon and a ton of people saw it who hadn't seen or didn't remember TOP GUN. DUNE: PART TWO just doesn't feel - and hey, I could always be wrong, check back in a month - like a movie that's going to bring in people who didn't see or didn't like the first. Audiences know at this point whether DUNE is or isn't for them, so the movie's depending on audience growth from streamers who now pay for tickets and people who came to the first in the interim between movies.

How big is that audience? We'll see. Just based on personal feeling, an opening that's 75% higher due to sequel rush and a total around 50% higher due to those newly accounted ticket buyers sounds about right to me.

Feeling very wrong now because I hated the first DUNE - I found it so cold that I just couldn't care about anyone or anything that happened in it - and these reactions are great enough that I'm definitely checking out PART TWO. The number of people who were a little more mixed on the first but are over the moon for the sequel makes me very happy.

February 13

1 hour ago, Last Man Standing said:

I don't think Part I-ing the audience really generates backlash. Dune didn't really suffer for it, neither did Spiderverse.

1 hour ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

and neither did Infinity War

I think it's telling that none of these movies were released as "Part One." SPIDER-VERSE dropped it from the title and re-titled the sequel. DUNE didn't have Part One anywhere in its marketing materials - trailers, posters - and only included it on the title card at the beginning. (And I heard that was a late addition because test audiences got mad at the cliffhanger without it)

February 11

I need the engagement, it feeds me, it doesn't matter if the information is accurate or not. Cliiiiiiiiiicks.

February 11

5 hours ago, vafrow said:

I continues to show no sign of aligning to the consensus. At this stage, it's about to overtake HGBoSS. It's gained well against Marvels, that it might catch it.

omg if I turn on Twitter ad revenue can I say "Current data shows DUNE 2 opening lower than THE MARVELS"? My engagement will be through the roof and I can move to a tropical island.

February 10

13 hours ago, elhassane31 said:

Maybe things could be turned around if the movie has good word of mouth. Have you heard anything about the quality of the movie?

No, kid's movies are a little more challenging because their test screenings require attendees to actually have children and not many of my usual sources do.

11 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I'm glad not to be alone on this. It looks bland as all hell and doesn't bring anything new to the table like Puss 2 did.

He announced on Twitter recently that he's out of the scooperbro game, so he likely won't respond to this. Very unfortunate as he was the only likeable and the most reliable one of the lot. I think the initial Scream 6 hoax took a toll on him.

Thanks Sylvester, it's always nice to hear stuff like this

SCREAM VI was a major factor in my decision. It wasn't so much that I was wrong as I have more "reach" than I normally take into account, so when I said things like "Neve Campbell is definitely back!" it led to Neve actually being questioned and confronted like she was lying. Combined with people being spoiled unintentionally as things spread on various movies and I just thought I'd become more of a net negative than a positive.

February 10

Fun fact: every KUNG FU PANDA movie has opened lower than the previous movie. Given the last one opened to $41 million and there's been an eight year gap I'd be surprised if it nudged that far over $30 million OW.

February 8

51 minutes ago, M37 said:

The semi-obvious retort is Oppenheimer ... but I really don't think sequel to a good WOM movie has the kind of social resonance that Barbenheimer phenomenon manifested. Nor does it have the nostalgia factor - plus military angle, and lets be real, cool fighter jets - of TGM.

I think this is the biggest factor. TOP GUN: MAVERICK was a phenomenon and a ton of people saw it who hadn't seen or didn't remember TOP GUN. DUNE: PART TWO just doesn't feel - and hey, I could always be wrong, check back in a month - like a movie that's going to bring in people who didn't see or didn't like the first. Audiences know at this point whether DUNE is or isn't for them, so the movie's depending on audience growth from streamers who now pay for tickets and people who came to the first in the interim between movies.

How big is that audience? We'll see. Just based on personal feeling, an opening that's 75% higher due to sequel rush and a total around 50% higher due to those newly accounted ticket buyers sounds about right to me.

February 8

2 minutes ago, TMP said:

Conversely - it being a Chalamet/Zendaya vehicle surely makes it no more geeky than most blockbusters, no? I feel like it’s broken through into the zeitgeist… we’ll see how it opens! Exciting times!

I'm just a cynic but I don't think actors really draw audiences anymore.

February 8

I think DUNE skews too 'geeky' male to have a major walkup run in normal auditoriums - much of the audience is going to prioritize a great IMAX/PLF experience over just seeing it.

We're already seeing that with presales where there's a mad rush for the Early Access shows (all on premium screens, I believe?) and release weekend IMAX seats with a major slowdown when it comes to average screens.

February 2

38 minutes ago, Porthos said:

People can say I'm taking crazy pills and that's fine, but I still maintain what is going to really move the needle among the GA/casuals is early WOM/social media buzz about the action quota of the film once people actually start seeing it.

It's been screening for a little while, Warner Bros is very confident in it. I just don't know how much appeal there is for people who don't already love the first one.

December 21, 2023

I can't see Aquaman's reviews being Morbius-level bad. Morbius is narratively incompetent, Aquaman's just a bit dull.

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