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  1. Data on medical staff infected in Italy has been updated for 28th April.

    20.797 medical workers have been infected. 72 have died - Overall IFR: 0.34%

    Per age:

    18-29: 0 / 2.107 (0%)

    30-39: 1 / 3.584 (0.03%)

    40-49: 4 / 5.857 (0.07%)

    50-59: 17 / 6.935 (0.24%)

    60-69: 37 / 2.209 (1.67%)

    70-79: 13 / 105 (12.38%)

     

    Of course, there are no people over 80, yet there aren't any under 20 either. Real IFR will end up at around 0.3 - 0.5 % imo.

    https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Bollettino-sorveglianza-integrata-COVID-19_28-aprile-2020.pdf

    (page 14)

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  2. 43 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

    great find ! (I gave today a bit up, too depressing, no idea why it hits today harder thanbefore)

     

    I‘d only add maybe (if you are interested into the details of the language, in no way meant as criticism, I see you look for data too, so I thought you might want to know, just in case) the plus signs, as more than 9% and ‚gut 2%‘, the gut does not stand for good like in quality, but in over 2 in a not micro amount way (but also not a lot, like 2.5)

     

    You're right, thank you!

    I'm part german and I did understand that, but I guess I've missed it when I've read the article :)

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  3. On 4/7/2020 at 2:58 PM, Andreas said:

    https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-junge-menschen-gefahr-1.4863155

    "Während in Deutschland bislang mehr als neun Prozent der über 80-Jährigen, bei denen das neue Coronavirus nachgewiesen wurde, gestorben sind, waren es unter den 60- bis 69-Jährigen nur gut zwei Prozent. Von den unter 30-jährigen positiv Getesteten mussten dagegen 98,8 Prozent nicht ins Krankenhaus, die allermeisten Jungen und Gesunden spüren nicht einmal etwas davon, wenn sie sich anstecken. Intensivstation, Todesgefahr, das Risiko dafür ist in dieser Altersgruppe so gering, dass es mit 0,03 Prozent statistisch kaum valide zu erfassen ist. Erst in der Gruppe der 30- bis 39-Jährigen steigt das Letalitätsrisiko in den Promillebereich."

     

    ENG: "While more than 9% of the over-80 year-old have died in Germany, only 2% of those aged 60-69 have died from it. For under 30-year olds who have tested positiv for Covid, 98.8% didn't need hospitalization, and most of them didn't even know they were infected. The risk of getting admitted to the ICU or dying is so little for this age group, that we can hardly consider it to be statistically valid (0.03%). The lethality-risk gets more noticeable in 30-39 year-olds (0.1%)."

     

    This data shows that Germany does A LOT more testing than Italy, Spain or UK, and that the IFR (infection-fatality-rate) is much smaller than the CFR (case-fatality-rate).

     

    Current CFR in Italy vs Germany:

    over 80 year-olds: 30% vs 9%

    60-69: 8.4% vs 2%

    30-39: 0.4% vs 0.1%

    20-29: 0.1% vs 0.03%

     

    Also, data from both the US and Spain have shown that around 12-18% of people under the age of 30 need hospitalization. In Germany, only 1.2% have needed it, once again proving the same thing.

     

    I believe there might be at least 20x more COVID-19 cases worldwide than the official numbers seem to suggest.

    Just came across more data to support this.

    Italy's death rate among infected medical workers (no less than 14.032) is 0.3%. 

    0% for under 30 year-olds.

    0.1% for 30-49 year-olds.

    0.3% for 50-59 year-olds.

    1.3% for 60-69 year-olds.

    10.3% for 70+ year-olds.

     

    It would just make sense that a MUCH larger proportion of medical workers are getting tested than general population.

     

    https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Bollettino-sorveglianza-integrata-COVID-19_9-aprile-2020.pdf

    (Page 13)

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  4. https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/coronavirus-junge-menschen-gefahr-1.4863155

    "Während in Deutschland bislang mehr als neun Prozent der über 80-Jährigen, bei denen das neue Coronavirus nachgewiesen wurde, gestorben sind, waren es unter den 60- bis 69-Jährigen nur gut zwei Prozent. Von den unter 30-jährigen positiv Getesteten mussten dagegen 98,8 Prozent nicht ins Krankenhaus, die allermeisten Jungen und Gesunden spüren nicht einmal etwas davon, wenn sie sich anstecken. Intensivstation, Todesgefahr, das Risiko dafür ist in dieser Altersgruppe so gering, dass es mit 0,03 Prozent statistisch kaum valide zu erfassen ist. Erst in der Gruppe der 30- bis 39-Jährigen steigt das Letalitätsrisiko in den Promillebereich."

     

    ENG: "While more than 9% of the over-80 year-old have died in Germany, only 2% of those aged 60-69 have died from it. For under 30-year olds who have tested positiv for Covid, 98.8% didn't need hospitalization, and most of them didn't even know they were infected. The risk of getting admitted to the ICU or dying is so little for this age group, that we can hardly consider it to be statistically valid (0.03%). The lethality-risk gets more noticeable in 30-39 year-olds (0.1%)."

     

    This data shows that Germany does A LOT more testing than Italy, Spain or UK, and that the IFR (infection-fatality-rate) is much smaller than the CFR (case-fatality-rate).

     

    Current CFR in Italy vs Germany:

    over 80 year-olds: 30% vs 9%

    60-69: 8.4% vs 2%

    30-39: 0.4% vs 0.1%

    20-29: 0.1% vs 0.03%

     

    Also, data from both the US and Spain have shown that around 12-18% of people under the age of 30 need hospitalization. In Germany, only 1.2% have needed it, once again proving the same thing.

     

    I believe there might be at least 20x more COVID-19 cases worldwide than the official numbers seem to suggest.

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  5. 7 minutes ago, Noctis said:

    Tucker Carlson is the literal embodiment of a clown...an utter embarrassment to logic. 

     

     

    ... is what a left-winger would probably say. He's the only one holding Trump accountable for poor management of the crisis and also acknowledging Richard Burr's coronavirus briefing-fiasco.

     

    Try watching the debate between him and Cenk Uygur. Even if you're against his beliefs, you'll see that this guy is really ok.

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  6. 28 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

    why did you ever think so? (hypothetically asked)

     

    there is a reason they get called FAUX news since decades

     

    Well, all of them are clearly biased, Fox in favor of Trump and the Republicans, while CNN and MSNBC in favor of Hillary, Biden and the DNC, yet sometimes it seemed Fox was more aware of actual issues (like immigration, terrorism etc.), while the left-wing media focused a bit too much on identity politics and other issues I don't really consider to be that important. I also like Tucker Carlson's show and I agree with many things he's pointing out, so I guess I am a conservative.

     

    But during this pandemic, Fox has turned into a complete clown-show imo

  7. 8 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

    Horrific, NY alone is already between France and the UK in 'New Deaths' today.

     

    In a just world, Trump and quite a few other world leaders would go to jail. Compared to what could have been done, this level of negligence is a crime against humanity.

    The level of negligence coming from so many world-leaders went on to create a perfect storm. Starting with Xi, then Tedros and then all first-world leaders refusing to take measures..

  8. https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Infografica_27marzo ENG.pdf

     

    Some data based on Italy's infection-and death rate (updated just now). Interesting to see that:

    - Out of all the deaths, not a single one occurred in under-30 year olds.

    - Just 4.7% of the deaths recorded in people under 60, while just 1.1% in 30-50.

    this data is based on around 85% of all reported deaths (7.590/9.134)

     

    Out of all clinically confirmed patients, only 17.5% show severe symptoms, while just 4.4% are in critical condition, meaning that almost 80% of all patients (age not taken into consideration) show only mild symptoms or are asymptomatic.

    this data is based on around 27% of all reported cases (22.077/86.498)

     

     

  9. Oh God the numbers coming from France are horrible. We now have the third Italy in Europe:whosad:

    Romania is also looking worse and worse. The whole staff in Suceava's biggest hospital is infected, after the manager carelessly and stupidly told all of his employees to come to work (even the ones being positively confirmed). 9 new deaths occurred today in Romania, including a 45 and a 49-year old... :(

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  10. 2 hours ago, Andreas said:

    Romania update: +186* cases since yesterday. 762 total. 79 recovered, 8 died (all have been elderly persons between 65-75 years, having pre-existing conditions). 15 are in ICU.

    Romania will go into FULL LOCKDOWN tomorrow. Everyone needs papers and can leave the house only for essential travel: shopping, job. People 65+ cannot leave their house AT ALL. Someone else needs to shop for them.

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