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6 minutes ago, grim22 said:
The Marvels didn't bomb because of feminism backlash any more than Captain Marvel did well because of feminism support. They are both products of their time in the franchise despite being just 4 years apart.
Captain Marvel was released between Infinity War and just before Endgame and on International Women's day. It was released in a franchise which was about to hit it's absolute peak just 6 weeks later. At that moment, Marvel could literally release Howard the Duck and get it to 250M domestic. And on the second weekend, Marvel released a trailer for Endgame which focused a lot on Captain Marvel and then it coasted on the Endgame fumes for a while to ensure great late legs.
The Marvels meanwhile is releasing when people have been treated to substandard MCU movies, depends on people having watched the least viewed Disney+ show and remembering a character who barely featured in a different Disney+ show, and a third show which was the worst reviewed and received in the MCU of all time and isn't even named Captain Marvel 2. The franchise is facing a lot of suspicion on the part of the general audience after 5 movies of the last 7 having a B+ or lower Cinemascore.
There's a feeling of no one knowing where anything is going in the MCU. Previously, the post credits stuff would be resolved within 2 movies at most or at least be continued within that time. Now we have had Captain Marvel, The Hulk and Wong show up in the post credits of Shang Chi without any follow-up in their next appearances (no one even knows when Shang Chi will show up next), Charlize Theron randomly show up at the end of Doctor Strange 2, Harry Styles show up at the end of Eternals, that random dead thing in the middle of the ocean in Eternals, not even getting into the Jonathan Majors of it all. The franchise is currently rudderless and directionless except for the fans saying "It's the multiverse?".
All of this has culminated in the rejection of this movie. Any movie released at this moment would have had the same result, it's not a Marvels specific thing, just that this is when the audience decided they had enough.
Haven't been here for a while, but this says it all perfectly 100%.
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8 hours ago, Liiviig 1998 said:
Last two episodes were just there, nothing much really happens and lot of plot threads are left hanging.
Nothing aggregious but this episodes were so 6/10. Action was all there but it all felt ruderless and just didn't care
Zombie troopers ... Nah.
Overall settle with a 7/10 for the whole series. Still a little dissapointed in filoni here.
This. There's no real "ooh I can't wait to see what happens next" unless they had teased the OT3 coming back. Now, it's just "okay, I hope I remember this by the time they return to this story".
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My biggest issue is not knowing what project will be the continuation and when it will happen. Is Mando S4 the continuation? Ahsoka S2? The Mandoverse movie? And when any of them will happen is beyond us. That is frustrating. It could be next year or it could be 5 years from now when everyone has forgotten this and less care at that point.
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I would say that the way things have been set up, the Witches of Dathomir could/should be a contender for villains that tie together all 3 projected movies projects (Dawn of the Jedi, Filoni, and Rey).
However, with the viewership of Ahsoka being as weak as it is, I am not so sure many would know what was going on.
The story has been decent as a set up. The visuals are stunning and the lightsaber duels have been mesmerizing. The dialogue and scripting, on the other hand, are absolutely PAINFULLY DREADFUL and exhibit why AI should never be used for scripting.
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Isn't it a bit late for them not having at least a teaser? This reminds me a lot of the marketing for Thor L&T.
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So $300 m domestic is a lock. Is $350 m domestic possible?
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35 minutes ago, harry713 said:
Did you want an award?
No, it's just baffling to hear someone complain about 65 degrees. And 85% humidity in 65 degree air does not make it feel like 95%. As a matter of fact, 85% humidity in 65 degree air doesn't actually make it feel much different than 65 degrees at all.
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Wow you guys are crybabies about the heat! 65 degrees and humid! Oh no! The travesty. Try 105 degrees F and 118 heat index.
Btw, the mere concept of Barbie surpassing Avengers (quite possible) domestically is genuinely frightning!
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Looks like Barbenheimer will officially prevent TLM from reaching $300 million domestic after all. Not sure how they will muster up $4 million more with dailies less than $100K.
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Interesting that the #1 film of 2022 and the possible #1 film of 2023 are both nostalgic movies but for different reasons and completely different sides of the political/social mindsets with polar opposite audiences. (but both somehow feature fit bodies on a beach lol).
Not much to say for that as a pattern except for nostalgia and that beach thing.
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So this flick is not my bag and I likely won't see it except on streaming if my wife and daughter want to see it. But I am intrigued by its phenomenon status.
So, what are we talking domestic? $550m? $575m? $600 m?
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So how's the prospect for $300 million domestic looking for this?
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So....we talkin' $600 million and $300 million domestic for Barbie and Opp respectively?
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Biggest movie of the year will be the 40th anniversary of Ghostbusters. Everything else will be delayed as the strike will continue through early 2025. This is the way.
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39 minutes ago, CJohn said:
This one is not reaching 300M. It will end at 296-298M.
Variety has been anti-theaters for a while now. Every headline is negative for theaters and theatrical releases.
It'll be $296-$298 m next week. Is that what you meant?
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1 hour ago, ZeroHour said:
One of the beauties of the movie business is you can’t always see these things coming and it’s hard to recreate the magic of the last thing. The sad thing is how much energy Hollywood wastes trying to recreate past successes. So many movies were trying to position themselves as the next Top Gun Maverick this year and failed. After the MCU hit it big, we’ve had a million cinematic universes crash and burn. The magic of Barbie will be hard to recreate and certainly doesn’t mean that people want every obscure toy to become a movie.
Okay then.....Ms. Pac-Man (combines the best of Mario and Barbie) the movie won't be a thing??? Damn!!!
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If Barbie becomes the biggest hit of the summer. good luck to all studios trying to decipher what the means for future movies.
I want a Micronauts movie ASAP!!!
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15 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:
Early preview numbers that they decided not to add to preview numbers but instead Friday. As said, Paramount is not normal.
Thanks. That's weird. They are not normal. They are Paranormal.
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I'm confused. Was MI7's Friday $14 million or $16.55 million? If it was a true Friday $14 million, then where does the $16.55 million come from?
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40 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:
For those saying the actors all make too much anyway.
See that's why simple people like me ask the questions we ask. I was hoping this was about those who were getting paid poorly. And if so, I fully support them going on strike. Those numbers are a crime!
But screw the true wealth goblins, those wealth orcs.
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I'm a simple man with even simpler questions. Which actors are striking? Certainly not the ones making millions, right???
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Looks somewhat fun, but unfortunately I get Nutcracker: Four Realms box office vibes from it.
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1 hour ago, Torontofan said:
I think people expecting some 500 million grosser from MI7 are expecting to much.
if the film does 300-400 millon domestic it would be a massive hit.
What about $200-$220 million domestic?
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Did I read/hear right that Indy made $11 million yesterday? That's pretty fantastic.
Fantastic Four | Marvel Studios | July 25, 2025 | Matt Shakman directs
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Weelllll......apparently they aren't going with an origin story or a young FF group. Why not just cast Krisinski? This seems.....odd and, as other said, desperate.
They should cast Uma Thurman, J-Lo or Jennifer Aniston as Sue Storm.