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  1. I knew you’d say that lol. I meant JKR knew she would be a maladictus which is a human being cursed to become a beast. They are not only Asian lol and not only cursed to become snakes. White characters also turn into beasts. This is a fictional magical world. Also I don’t think she wanted us to consider the snake Asian representation lol. She was just creating a character that fits into her story and now revealing her backstory in this series cause it’s relevant. Oh and I guessed you were asian too. I wasn’t speaking for you. I was speaking for me and people who disagree with people like you. That paragraph was for people who aren’t Asian who are looking for another perspective. It was precisely to prove that people like you don’t speak for all Asians so it’s funny you brought that up. Lol
  2. Ah her name means half human and half snake taken from Asian mythology. JKR gave her that name 20 years ago. That’s not retroactive storytelling. She knew who Nagini was before this and we still don’t know her full story. The HP series was written 20 years ago and had FAR more diversity than any other MAJOR popular series at the time. Again she is a snake when she gets her head chopped off and not human. I am sick of this. (And before you go off at me I AM ASIAN). She is cursed to become a beast in a series called Fantastic Beasts set in a fictional magical world that doesn’t exist, just as many white characters have been in different ways (Lupin , Credence, Ariana etc). Look I hope this series gives us and other minorities more good and well developed representation and I hope Hollywood does in general but this is just reaching for gods sake. Nothing is perfect. You people are just making our lives harder by nitpicking everything. I have experienced discrimination and racism myself many times but as a whole we asians arent all oppressed little victims without a voice needing protection from the big bad white people. Give us a little more credit and autonomy for gods sake.
  3. Nagini literally means half-human, half-snake and Rowling took that from Indonesian mythology (Naga) when she named her 20 years ago. Nagini has a blood curse that is passed on from mother to daughter whereby she is cursed to turn into a beast forever. She is slowly losing her humanity; what makes her both human and therefore 'Asian'. By the time she is possessed by wizard nazi Voldemort and used as a horcrux she would have become a beast and have lost her humanity. She is no longer an 'Asian Woman', she is a fucking snake. In Rowling's world, when wizards went into hiding centuries ago they hid beasts as well and those beasts became part of muggle legends and mythologies. This is why Rowling uses mythology in her writing. FB is about an expansion of the wizarding world beyond Britain so Indonesian mythology being used makes sense (unless they don't want Asians part of the wizarding world which might actually be racist). Indonesia is a diverse Asian country so an East Asian Actress being cast for the role makes sense. This explanation is for those people like that guy a few months ago who was having a go at Rowling for not making Dumbledore gay and ignoring the Albus/Gellert Relationship. Now that the trailer has disproven that, this might be the next big thing to use against Rowling because they just seem to hate her.
  4. I love comic book movies as much as the next person but they tend to generate huge hype online which doesn't necessarily translate to high box office. Just FYI: the first Fantastic Beasts movie with virtually no connection to HP generated very little hype online compared to Dr Strange (trailer views etc) and still made more money. Keep that in mind. Trailer was great. Visually stunning yet still left an air of mystery for us to stay intrigued. Oh and Teenage Dumbledore and Grindelwald are the same actors who played them in Deathly Hallows.
  5. It could be Tom Riddle but he would be a few months old when this film is set so I don’t know. I think it’s most likely Nagini too (Spoiler as to why). I hope it’s Ariana though. That would be cool.
  6. I agree. If more HP connections can't get the domestic numbers up it's not looking good. BOXOFFICEPRO's long tracking for the first was pretty accurate. Off 20 or so million. Having said that international box office could increase but I go to see movies frequently and I haven't seen the trailer for this film or a poster yet in my country's biggest cinema chain. Could anyone in Asia and Europe tell us what the buzz is like for this movie? Its purely anecdotal obviously but at least we get a sense.
  7. Box Office Pro: Trailer reaction analysis 63.9% of respondents who saw the trailer this week said they intend to see it in theaters, during its first week of tracking on the metric. For comparison, that 63.9% is the highest such number registered by a movie in the past two months. The film spends its first week in both the top three and at #1. 81% total “positive interest” score, #4 among wide releases this week, during its first week of tracking on the metric. https://pro.boxoffice.com/trailer-impact-9-20-18/
  8. I still need to see more scenes of him to provide a better analysis of his acting in this movie especially how much charisma he has, which I think is important for the character, but I'm more cautiously optimistic than I was before the last trailer was released. His look is still slightly out of place but I'm starting to like the fact he looks strange. If you look at the world today and during that time period many leaders with a cult like following and dangerous ideologies looked strange or traditionally unappealing but they were still able to persuade so many people to follow them. I hope they play with that dynamic and why so many people follow them with such intensity. It's quite an interesting philosophical and political topic to play with on screen.
  9. I'm FAR more interested in the Dumbledore/Grindelwald storyline than Newt and Co but from what I've seen Newt is more popular in the core HP fanbase (the HP fansites etc). They like characters that are more 'innocent and precious' and less complicated and real. Its the darkness that appeals to me when it comes to Harry Potter. The war. The intrigue. The grounding to the real world in how it depicts misery and the world's flaws and how people can overcome these extreme experiences and horrible histories still retaining some aspect of morality. But I think for many fans its the childlike magic and lightness that gets them. I think that's where Fantastic beasts and Newt comes in. He will help attract those HP fans and the children.
  10. No it doesn't but what i hate is that this has become his only or his biggest trait for far too many people. He is far more complicated than that. One chapter (The prince's Tale) doesn't erase the man we've known for 6 books. Just as Snape is still a "vindictive bully" even if he proved himself to be equally brave and heroic, Dumbledore is still the wise, witty, kind man we know while also being secretive and manipulative when required during times of war. People are complicated. I just wish people stopped downplaying Snape's faults and Dumbledore's virtues; just because we found out about their other traits at the end of the series. That pig for slaughter accusation everyone throws at him is also exaggerated. What Snape didn't know when he said that is that Harry had to be killed by voldemort in a particular way for Harry to survive but the horcrux to be destroyed. The irony is that before he died, Dumbledore prepared a path for Harry to defeat Voldemort by telling Snape when and how Harry should die to ensure Harry survives. He is actually a very tragic character IMO. Everyone he has loved as a child either died, hates him or left him when he needed them the most. His one experience of being in love ended in horrible guilt, shame and tragedy for him. He spends the rest of his life believing he is not worthy of love. He detaches himself from others to protect them from himself which leads to intense loneliness and is made worse by his genus level intellect further isolating him from others. He fears his greatest temptation is power and fears what he is capable of but he still uses his skills and experience to fight for a better world even if he knew he might never live to see it and fought for those that society deemed inferior. His secretive side stems from his mother's teachings, his family's secretive past and the betrayals he has endured throughout his life. He identifies with outcasts as his father's actions when he was a child made him a pariah and his teenage ambition was in part a means to break out from his father's malicious shadow. He is such a complex, remarkable character and I'm saddened when people simplify him to merely a master manipulator when he is so much more than that.
  11. Snape's a fascinating character i agree but I have to admit movie Snape is VERY different to book Snape. I love Alan but he portrayed Snape as a mature emotionally restrained man who was kind of mean sometimes to the children but book Snape was a emotionally volatile young man who was quite cruel to the children; especially around and to Harry. (The occlumency lessons. He lost his temper and let his emotions get the better of him all the time with Harry around) Snape's feelings for Harry stems from his jealousy and to an extent understandable hatred of his Harry's father as much as his protection of Harry was because of Harry's mother. He made Harry's life a living hell to exact revenge on James but protected Harry from danger for Lily. He's a contradiction actually and quite a petty and vindictive man but what I admire is the bravery he showed during the last year of his life. Man that would have been so hard. i agree about his loneliness. He continued to protect people who hated him against Voldemort without knowing that Harry will most likely live. That took guts. Rowling said it the best: "Snape is all grey. You can't make him a saint: he was vindictive & bullying. You can't make him a devil: he died to save the wizarding world" "Snape was a bully who loved the goodness he sensed in Lily without being able to emulate her. That was his tragedy."
  12. Hopefully 😉 It's box office theory mate. You're kinda meant to talk about your theories as to what might impact the box office. No one actually knows what will happen and most of us turn out to be very wrong anyway. It's better to underestimate a film than overestimate though. Helps the film in the long run when it does better than people predict.
  13. that the media has the ability to impact the box office? well nothing's impossible mate. I kind of meant they may not advertise the film as much as they would have or write as positive a review as they might have not really that audiences will start caring about Depp's personal life. But I do think this won't impact foreign non-english speaking countries at all and I think the HP community is loyal enough to come out regardless domestically but I don't think its impossible to presume people's dislike of Depp will turn some off the movie. I agree it prob wont be enough to impact the movie at all if this movie's marketing and the movie itself is really very good. Depp's performance has to be VERY good too or the media will massacre them. There is little good will as it is and they can't afford further issues or controversies this close to the movie release. Any mistakes/imperfections may be amplified/overblown by the media. Fingers Crossed!
  14. Well I think the media is doing everything in their power to make sure audiences care. One of Depp's small films have been pulled from release and the media seems almost gleeful and are pining his career on FB2. I'm concerned they might do everything to derail this film no matter how good it is to ensure Depp's career is over. Let's hope audiences really don't care about what the media says and it won't impact the box office.
  15. Am I the only one who likes both Newt and the Dumbledore/Grindelwald storyline? I probably prefer the Dumbledore and Grindelwald story mainly because I find Dumbledore's character rich, mature, complicated and therefore fascinating but I enjoy Newt and his more simple issues. Newt's first love is engaged to his brother and that hurts and he's not too comfortable around people. That's probably more relatable than a super powerful genius who can't confront his dark wizard ex because he doesn't trust himself around power and the man he probably still loves because he is terrified he might be tempted to join him and turn into a monster which he believes he is anyway, since there's a chance he accidentally killed someone he loved and is consumed by regret, guilt and shame over his past flirtations with Grindelwald's dangerous ideology and its tragic repercussions. lol Its precisely this heaviness that I love about Dumbledore but I recognize that for a general audience that might be a little too much. Also loads of Harry Potter fansites/podcasts etc love Newt and tend to simplify Dumbledore to someone they dislike so I think Newt is important to bring those people in because they have a lot of influence in the fanbase. Dumbledore might be too complicated for many (especially the young) to relate to and understand. I think its admirable of Rowling that she hasn't simplified him to make him more appealing to GA and the type of HP fan I mentioned above. Newt/Beasts also makes it more than just a prequel.
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