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thedast started following The Iron Claw | 12/22/2023 | A24 | Zac Efron | Gonna Be Better Than You Cause MJF Joins Cast 🥰 , Weekdays Thread | THU - TBOSS $1.7M, Napoleon $1.1M, Wish $567K, Trolls 3 $516K, Thanksgiving $347K, Saltburn $309K , Wonka | December 15, 2023 | TIMOTHEE IS WILLY WONKA FAM and 7 others
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Wonka | December 15, 2023 | TIMOTHEE IS WILLY WONKA FAM
thedast replied to Jonwo's topic in Box Office Discussion
Feel like I mostly saw and still see a ton of really viral tweets about how he was miscast and fearing it might be the 2023 Cats. But you never know. Twitter isn't real life, the theatres are kinda dry and it at least looks Christmassy. Also on the very tiny off chance the strikes end in the next couple of weeks WB will have him everywhere in an instant. -
I feel like it's par for the course now for Sony to widen the release many of their movies just before it leaves theatres.
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Lol I mean... I thought Chris Pine was popular-ish and it has the dude from Bridgerton everyone wants to be Bond and Michelle Rodriguez. DnD also has a larger budget, more aggressive marketing, pre-pre-screenings to pad the preview numbers, way better reviews and may still not outdo the actual OW or international numbers for Uncharted in the end so... not sure what the point here is? Because of Tom's schedule most likely. The Sony/Marvel machine's had him in the grinder for years and he's famously had to reject other roles for it. He sounded burnt out by the physicality of both roles and said he was taking a break and going to do other things for a while so I don't see a sequel for Spider-man or Uncharted getting into production before 2024 earliest.
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I feel the same. I think what really helped the MCU outside the novelty, is that for the first decade or so it was anchored by really likeable characters played by likeable actors in a world that felt 'real' (it's no coincidence that god-like characters like Thor and the Eternals have struggled the most to find footing, they seem suited for secondary roles). Yes, the worldbuilding was fine and it built up to a great climax but what has kept people invested, in my opinion, even after disappointing releases, is people just really like seeing them interact. I can't think of many memorable, non-aggressive interactions between characters in the DCEU. It's not the aesthetics, or the rating or the CGI at the end. If Gunn can somehow cast a whole new set of actors who people can care about maybe he'd have some luck but I think it might be too late. Batman is Batman, he's a broody little man with issues, it's not enough. The novelty of cinematic universes and superheroes has worn off a lot lately, it's gotten fairly predictable, and a lot of it is getting into 'feels like homework' territory. They should just explore one-offs for a while. Employ some other gimmick. Wish him luck though.
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RT was the one of the worst things to happen to movies in recent times. As someone said, that and box office numbers became the billboard charts for the chronically online: something you use to validate your tastes (if positive) or pile on someone you dislike (if negative). There are tons of movies I've loved only to find out months later it was either a flop or had bad reviews. I get why the filmmakers would care but let's face it if you're a big Marvel fan something tells me you were going to see their latest offering regardless. People let these numbers dictate their tastes to the point that they feel defensive for enjoying things with a 60% RT score. It's weird.
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My thoughts too. It's not his wheelhouse and they didn't give the character enough depth (not sure if lack of range or or poor direction) to make up for it. He didn't have much of a motive for most of the film for me to care either. If they'd had him working towards some tangible personal goal or maybe shown more of his conflict earlier maybe?
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
thedast replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
How's this looking?