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Abigail MiniTC2
Previews - 1305/21076 (100 showings) $16.5K
Good walkups after low sales. Normally these sales would imply ~$850K previews, MTC1 is much better than that. Maybe it hit $1M after all.
Horror doesn't under-index here normally.
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@keysersoze123 can you check Spider-man?
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9 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:
Civil War MiniTC2
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4438/30783 (114 showings) $60KReally solid result with walkups. Normally would mean $3M but think will underindex here. $3.25-3.5M seems about right.
Huh. With MiniTC2 doing well I thought MTC1 wont overindex but seems like it did.
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Civil War MiniTC2
Previews - 4438/30783 (114 showings) $60K
Really solid result with walkups. Normally would mean $3M but think will underindex here. $3.25-3.5M seems about right.
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1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:
Now thinking 500K is possible for early shows. @katnisscinnaplex do you have show count for tomorrow?
I think all the shows are MTC 1. Only 20 shows non MTC1 in last check.
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Spider-man MiniTC2 T-8 Days
Monday - 2363/6965 (32 showings) $15.8K
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On 4/1/2024 at 9:50 PM, charlie Jatinder said:
Checking few random locs
AMC Empire 25 - 625 (3)
Lincoln Square - 298 (1)
Kips Bay - 148 (2)
34th Street - 113 (2)
Newport - 103 (2)
Americana - 460 (4)
AMC The Grove - 246 (2)
Universal AMC - 257 (3)
Montebello - 282 (3)
Burbank - 556 (3)
Century 15 - 328 (4)
Orange 30 - 429 (3)
Disney Spring - 609 (3)Mission Valley - 197 (1)
Chula Vista - 304 (5)4955 - 15 locs - 41 shows
@keysersoze123 check the other 500 I guess.Won't be surprised with 50K+ sales. May be even 75K.
AMC Empire 25 - 705 (5)
Lincoln Square - 302 (1)
Kips Bay - 163 (2)
34th Street - 152 (2)
Newport - 105 (2)
Americana - 482 (4)
AMC The Grove - 287 (3)
Universal AMC - 297 (5)
Montebello - 323 (4)
Burbank - 605 (3)
Century 15 - 360 (4)
Orange 30 - 495 (3)
Disney Spring - 670 (3)Mission Valley - 202 (1)
Chula Vista - 329 (5)5477 - 15 locs - 47 shows
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GxK looked like 13M+ last I checked
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Imagine $=10 peso.
Then imagine 25M admits of EG, with market growth probably 27M.
80 peso ATP.
2.16B peso gross aka $216M
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13 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:
$30 mil is an insane price to pay for streaming rights lmao
Not really. They are paying $10-20M for Indian films itself. $30M for American films will be on low end
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11 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:
That would put Netflix in the hole by $20 mil though.
Netflix would have spent that $30M for streaming only, now they got bonus $10M from theatrical along with marketing spend by Universal giving film awareness and now they can get good viewership when it streams.
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22 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Monkey Man was made for $10m, bought by Netflix for $30m and then bought again by Universal for $10m.
So I’m assuming the real winners are the producers and the losers are Netflix.
Not sure but may be Netflix has kept streaming rights and sold just theatrical rights. In that case no losers there.
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Challengers is my pick for April winner.
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First Omen MiniTC2 Final
Previews - 1063/10331 (61 showings) $13K
Also low. Would normally mean $650-700K previews.
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Monkey Man MiniTC Final
Previews - 1393/14702 (70 showings) $16K
Very low numbers and walkups were meh. Was thinking 2K was possible but fell way under.
Would normally mean $800K ish previews but since MTC1 is much better, should be better than that. I will guess MTC2 is around $175-200K from MiniTC2 numbers, coupled with MTC1 that shall give $1.5M ish.- 5
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15 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
Monkey Man MTC1
Previews Final - 35377/197065 597056.59 1420 shows +13145
Friday - 26879/438943 452438.41 3060 shows +7555
Its final day walkups were inline with expectations. Not great but its not terrible either. I am thinking 1.7m previews with around 35% MTC1 ratio. Friday PS growth is just ok but it should do low teens OW I think. I am expecting stronger walkups over the weekend.
Wonder if it could be 40%.
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1 hour ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Then we get back into the issue of previews comps not being accurate since EA is taking away all early sales
Something we have to just go with. Though from my experience, its okay to just ignore EA before MON of release.
Especially in this case where actual weekend of release is well short of EA.
In MiniTC2
EA - 480/5191 (30 showings)
Thu - 11/11332 (57 showings)
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1 hour ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold Ungentlemanly T-14 Jax 5 11 3 3 1,214 0.25% Phx 6 10 9 9 1,060 0.85% Ral 5 8 1 1 1,018 0.10% Total 16 29 13 13 3,292 0.39% Ungentlemanly (EA) T-9 Jax 2 3 86 86 320 26.88% Phx 3 3 44 44 405 10.86% Ral 3 3 79 79 356 22.19% Total 8 9 209 209 1,081 19.33% Day 1 adjusted comps
- MI:7 (Total) - .847x (6.11m)
- TMNT (Total) - .738x (3.63m)
- Ghostbusters Afterlife - .953x (3.44m)
- Ghostbusters FE - 1.078x (3.89m)
- Godzilla x Kong - .59x (4.35m)
- Kingdom of Apes - 2.494x
Solid first day for EA sales. With the shows being on Saturday I think that'll give it a great boost and still allow time for preview sales to pick up after.
Would suggest ignore EA for comps. Too far out and too different from actual weekend sales.
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12 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
Monkey Man MTC1
Previews(T-1) - 22232/196626 394375.72 1416 shows +3823
Friday - 19324/436224 332178.78 3035 shows +4115
Dont thing its going to do enough to hit 2m previews now. Probably around 1.5-1.7m previews. but weekend has tons more shows and so it should still hit low teens OW.
Wonder how high MTC1 ratio be because sales are low elsewhere.
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17 minutes ago, whatsupdoc said:
What's often lost in conversations about tracking is the fact that forecasts change. We offer our first forecast at 6 weeks out, but that numbers fluctuate from 6 weeks out to day of release based on the survey data. BARBIE and DUNE 2 are great examples. Interest in both films took off at about 3 weeks out, and their forecasts went up accordingly. There are times when the forecasts go down because the material isn't connecting or a film is struggling to gain interest from people outside the core audience.
It's the same for folks here who track resales from the first day they go on sale through opening. The story changes.
So why do we offer a forecast at 6 weeks if we know it can change? We do it because it serves as an important check for our studio clients. They can get a sense of whether the campaign is working or if adjustments have to be made.
I get the forecasts are subject to change, just that I think the purpose of traditional tracking is to give a picture with polling before sales aren't there. Once sales are there, there are rare chances of surprise.
That said I don't think Dune 2 had any kind of change in one month of pre-sales run. Always looked like $70M or so start.
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2 minutes ago, Minnale101 said:
Yeahh I maybe misremembering but I don’t even remember slumdog millionaire being huge in India
That had oscar buzz which was huge so it did well but all other Dev Patel films are non openers in India or Indian diaspora in US.
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34 minutes ago, Minnale101 said:
Being south Asian and watching monkey man trailer, a movie like this, revenge stories, it’s beaten to death like dead horse, I don’t see Indian population overseas flocking to this, nothing About it is unique at all
very niche movie
Indian diaspora goes for face value, Dev Patel has none.
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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
in Box Office Discussion
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FRI sales are okay. Can see 8-10M.