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Everything posted by Menor

  1. Used to think of this as one of the lesser MCU films, but on a rewatch, it's honestly one of the better ones and perhaps the best of the origin stories. The Thor/Jane romance is a little odd and seems forced, the visuals are decent but nothing unprecedented (other than the phenomenal end credits) but the story is strong and earnest, the humor works and is different from the usual Marvel style, the lead performances are great, and the dialogue is pretty sharp. There are a lot of well-done emotional moments, Hemsworth is charismatic and charming as Thor, and Loki was already one of the best onscreen supervillains in one appearance. Another point that I really appreciated was the efficiency of the action scenes, none dragged on too long, and all were impactful and entertaining without needing to provide empty spectacle. A very strong film and not that far behind Ragnarok as the best of the trilogy. A-
  2. It's a private company. Why should anti-maskers be a protected class?
  3. I don't think that was a real theme of Aquaman, that was just the villain's motivation (I felt the overall theme was more related to what kind of person is deserving of power). There are inconsistencies (especially with Civil War and the first Wonder Woman) in how each of those films handle their larger themes, but I think all were still better executed than WW84. Black Panther, for example, makes a pretty coherent statement about the duty of nations which is far more convincing and effective than anything WW84 has to say.
  4. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you could remove the opening scene and there would be no real difference in understanding of the film. The competition is basically just a metaphor to illustrate the film's theme. I'm not saying it's wrong to have an opening scene like that, but framing the film in that way imo makes it more annoying when the theme is muddled. The mall stuff was somewhat plot-related because it gives the viewer information of what Diana has been doing since the end of the first film.
  5. What I mean is with the monologues about truth and stuff like that. Also the opening scene having no relation to the plot and only existing for a metaphorical purpose. You didn't see that in a movie like Aquaman, for example.
  6. Max being slowly killed and Barbara losing her goodness was the price, though. The wishes themselves were granted perfectly. Yeah but other superhero films usually don't try to explicitly push their themes as much as this does, so that makes the inconsistencies stand out much more.
  7. But the wishes did happen properly other than the body swap Steve. Barbara did become "like Diana". Max Lord did become the wishing stone. That woman did drop dead. The issue was the price.
  8. I don't see why the monkey's paw would prevent there from being "good wishes"? The "good wishes" would just come with a price.
  9. Yes, that's what happens in the film, but what I mean is that the message the film is trying to convey with this plotline is something I don't agree with. It promotes the idea that taking "shortcuts" to achieve things is inherently bad. Edit: made a statement about the wishes which is not completely accurate
  10. A disappointment considering the quality of the first, but I was entertained. Plot was just all over the place with a lot of holes, but it had its moments for sure. I liked Maxwell Lord's character a lot. Action was poor, and first 3/4 of the film really dragged, but I did enjoy the climax. 5.5/10, D.
  11. Eh, I don't think it was made clear why missing the blue mark was considered so bad. Like to me, that looked like she found a creative solution after the bad luck of getting thrown off the horse. I get that the film is giving me a "cheating is wrong" message, but I don't think the scene delivered that convincingly. And I don't really think that flying because of a vague pep talk is that convincing.
  12. Start off with the good parts: there were some good emotional parts such as Diana renouncing her wish and Max Lord's relationship with his son, Barbara was effective for the beginning/middle of her arc. Opening scene was quite entertaining and the climax was effective. Max Lord was a very entertaining and effective villain. Overall it did leave me entertained by the end. And the bad: I guess the biggest problem is that the first 3/4 of the film is incredibly lacking in any sort of urgency or momentum. Things move at a glacial pace until the White House scenes, and I felt like the Chris Pine out-of-time comedy dragged. The body swap thing is a problem, both Diana and Steve should have seen the issue there. The McGuffin hunt brought in some of my least favorite tropes, such as connecting the McGuffin to a bunch of civilizations throughout history, and it wasn't even a very interesting McGuffin to justify that much time spent looking for it's origins. The action was lame and uninteresting. Barbara's descent into villainy was rushed. Some nitpicks, which aren't huge problems but bothered me a bit: Steve being able to fly the plane, convenient invisibility power, and why was she suddenly able to fly? Overall a lot of things seemed to just happen too conveniently, and while each one is not a huge deal on it's own they do add up. I also have to say I'm not sure about the film's themes. First of all in the opening scene, are we supposed to think that Diana did something bad by finding an alternative route? To me that looks like creativity. And the idea that getting anything valuable without working hard for it is somehow immoral doesn't jive with me. Sometimes you luck into things, and there's nothing wrong with that. I understand the message against greed and always wanting more, but I felt the film in a way took it too far. Overall it certainly wasn't the worst superhero film but it's a big dropoff from the first. 5.5/10
  13. Yeah this was a bit of a mess with some very questionable decisions. That said it did have som great moments where the emotional sincerity does shine through even with the poor plotting. 5.5/10
  14. Excellent, if it wasn't then you wouldn't have seen such big numbers for TDK.
  15. DH 2 had the finale factor and was based on the incredibly popular book, Potter 9 would be most likely a movie-only thing. And I really doubt that any Potter film would get 300 million OW domestic. The USA isn't the peak market for that franchise. Come on, Batman's trailer had good engagement but it was hardly unprecedented for a CBM. WB didn't even announce the 24 hr trailer view count, which they surely would have if it was some record-breaking number like some here are claiming.
  16. Well before reviews I thought it would be higher than the first WW, lower DOM, higher INT, but probably a bit below 1B. After the audience response was much lower than I expected, I revised that to thinking it probably wouldn't have beaten the first film WW or INT. But yeah, we'll never truly know.
  17. Captain Marvel had an A on Cinemascore vs this one's B+, higher PostTrak scores and a significantly higher definite recommend (despite WW84's theater surveys being inflated by a bigger selection effect than usual), had better reviews, and had higher online audience scores despite being subjected to probably the biggest online troll campaign for a single movie. Its legs were also helped by the imminent release of Endgame. The situations are not comparable.
  18. A huge weekend by necessity will limit the leg potential, and 82% positive isn't all that great for PostTrak. The audience scores (which have an even stronger selection bias than usual) are a bit below Justice League, which had a 2.4 multi off a significantly lower weekend. So 2.3 or lower seems like a good bet if it indeed opened to 160.
  19. Enough to increase significantly from the first is unlikely. Even a 160*2.3 gets to 370 domestic, would have dropped quite a bit in China as well. I highly doubt it would've made enough up in the rest of the world to even match the first, let alone hit 1B.
  20. You have no evidence to suggest it would, and the less-than-stellar reception would have definitely hurt legs. 1B would've been tough even with strong reception, with this reception it would have been extremely unlikely.
  21. BoP and WW84 scores are verified-era, and thus are inflated. We also have Aquaman's actual BO performance to judge reception. Even for a holiday release, it had very strong holds. That's true, but I think the point was more about whether there is even value in a shared universe if about half the films have mixed to bad reception.
  22. Minor nitpick but I don't think Shazam's reception can qualify as "great". More in the "good" category. I think that just strengthens the overall point, though. DC has already shown that they can make successful films without forcing the shared universe element.
  23. The first one had significantly better audience scores, even in direct theater surveys.
  24. Both the Cinemascore and PostTrak are about the same as Justice League. The PostTrak scores are actually lower than JL. But it is true that this isn't the same as the "absolute disaster" ratings that the online scores are indicating. I think that's because the online scores include a lot of home viewers, who absolutely will have a different experience with the film than theatergoers. The CS/PostTrak/RT verified scores are most likely closer to what reception would have been in pre-Covid conditions -- but those numbers are still not good.
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