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3 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:
Probably neither. James Cameron's name only works when the movie is revolutionary. Terminator, Titanic, and Avatar are all technical revolutions and while Interstellar is extremely well made, its not as innovative as those three movies (except for the black hole sequence). And the reason Titanic and Avatar became such huge hits were their legs, not their opening. I don't see your hypothetical situation giving a much different outcome than what we got because Interstellar didn't get the WoM or legs Titanic and Avatar got.
Part of why I'm more pessimistic about Avatar 2 is because I don't see the big technical revolution yet. They are hyping up the underwater capture technology, but will the difference between how Avatar 2 does it versus other movies like Aquaman be obvious to the general audience? Maybe there will be great CG but other franchises certainly have not been slacking in that department.
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Man of Steel or Superman Returns?
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3 hours ago, Eric Laurence said:
8-Week Tracking and Forecasts
Release Date Title 3-Day (FSS) Opening Tracking Range 3-Day (FSS) Opening Forecast % Chg from Last Week Domestic Total Range Domestic Total Forecast % Chg from Last Week Distributor 1/10/2020 1917 (Wide) $24,000,000 – $29,000,000 $27,000,000 13% $90,000,000 – $120,000,000 $100,000,000 6% Universal / DreamWorks 1/10/2020 Just Mercy (Wide) $11,000,000 – $16,000,000 $12,000,000 -14% $45,000,000 – $65,000,000 $51,000,000 -14% Warner Bros. 1/10/2020 Like a Boss $15,000,000 – $20,000,000 $13,500,000 -21% $45,000,000 – $60,000,000 $45,000,000 -12% Paramount 1/10/2020 Underwater $5,000,000 – $10,000,000 $6,500,000 $12,000,000 – $25,000,000 $14,000,000 -22% Fox 1/17/2020 Bad Boys for Life $21,000,000 – $31,000,000 $32,000,000 28% $70,000,000 – $100,000,000 $85,000,000 33% Sony / Columbia 1/17/2020 Dolittle $25,000,000 – $45,000,000 $28,000,000 -30% $90,000,000 – $140,000,000 $102,000,000 -30% Universal 1/24/2020 The Gentlemen $10,000,000 – $15,000,000 $12,000,000 $30,000,000 – $50,000,000 $38,000,000 STX 1/24/2020 The Last Full Measure n/a n/a Roadside Attractions 1/24/2020 Run n/a n/a Lionsgate / Summit 1/24/2020 The Turning $10,000,000 – $15,000,000 $14,000,000 $25,000,000 – $40,000,000 $38,000,000 Universal 1/31/2020 Gretel and Hansel $5,000,000 – $10,000,000 $5,500,000 $10,000,000 – $20,000,000 $11,000,000 United Artists Releasing 1/31/2020 The Rhythm Section $10,000,000 – $15,000,000 $12,000,000 $30,000,000 – $45,000,000 $38,000,000 Paramount 2/7/2020 Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) $40,000,000 – $60,000,000 $49,000,000 $100,000,000 – $150,000,000 $125,000,000 Warner Bros. 2/14/2020 Fantasy Island $17,000,000 – $22,000,000 $17,000,000 $44,000,000 – $57,000,000 $44,000,000 Sony / Columbia 2/14/2020 The Photograph $13,000,000 – $18,000,000 $15,000,000 $30,000,000 – $42,000,000 $35,000,000 Universal 2/14/2020 Sonic the Hedgehog $20,000,000 – $30,000,000 $26,000,000 $65,000,000 – $100,000,000 $86,000,000 Paramount 2/21/2020 Brahms: The Boy 2 $7,000,000 – $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $15,000,000 – $28,000,000 $17,800,000 STX 2/21/2020 Call of the Wild $15,000,000 – $20,000,000 $15,000,000 $50,000,000 – $65,000,000 $50,000,000 Fox 2/28/2020 The Invisible Man $20,000,000 – $40,000,000 $30,000,000 NEW $60,000,000 – $105,000,000 $80,000,000 NEW Universal Dolittle about to live up to its name
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22 hours ago, AnDr3s said:
wandavision is an awful title tbh
What is it even supposed to mean
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I wonder how much money Universal will lose on Dolittle
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10 hours ago, Madhuvan said:
Wandavision is coming in 2020 now.
Four MCU properties to watch in 2020.Hyped.
Disney's fast-tracking its Star Wars and Marvel content for Disney+ it seems. Clone Wars in February 2020 hype
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9 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
So, between the Star Wars ST or DC’s Snyderverse, which one would people say has proven to be the bigger mess at the end of the day? Keep in mind, this isn’t necessarily a question over which one was better. It’s more a question over which one had the least flattering end result, once you factor in things like development, the press releases, PR, damage control, etc.
DC course corrected. Lucasfilm hasn't had the chance yet. Let's see how they handle the next Star Wars movies, Disney+ series, etc first.
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11 minutes ago, Nova said:
I just don’t get my hopes up with January releases. Hopefully the tide is turning similar to how February or September were once dumping months but not anymore. But yea what’s even more shocking is they had a turkey with Cats yet that still kept the holiday release. Dolittle can’t be worse than Cats. Should have switched their release dates imo Dolittle would have def made more than Cats did during the holidays.
Dolittle seems to have had a rough production but it won't be nearly as bad as Cats
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31 minutes ago, dudalb said:
Disney is apparently finally opening the infamous for the endless delays "New Mutants" the week before "No Time To Die" opens;IMHO just another sign Disney is dumping NM. BOnd is going to slaughter it at the box office,and Disney damn well knows that.
At least they bothered with a theatrical release?
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Dec. 18:
Dune
With 2020 being the first year in five years with no Star Wars movie closing out the year - and with the long-awaited Avatar sequel still a year away, this gives the opportunity for the long-awaited Dune remake to stake its claim to the box office crown. While the original 1984 adaptation of Frank Herbert’s epic opus was not a big hit ($30.9 million from a $40 million budget), this adaptation has all the elements that could lead to Dune being both a critical and commercial success. The cast is perhaps one of the best of the year (Rebecca Ferguson, Timothee Chalamet, Zendaya, Dave Bautista, Josh Brolin) and Denis Villeneueve continues to make a case for being our greatest living director. While I don’t think it will end up being the biggest hit of the year…. I think it will be a close second. $113.6 million domestic, $472.6 million domestic
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/30/2020-movies-box-office-predictions
I want to know what IGN is smoking.
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10 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:
Guys, off topic, but really, I'm bored of SW atm anyway... Instead, I want to broach the subject of interesting sci-fi projects. Namely, can anyone who hasn't watched Netflix's Lost In Space give it a try? I really want a third season.
The second season was a marked improvement on the first, especially in terms of acting (the season finale was fantastic all around on that front). Hell, that season finale had superb special effects (without exaggeration, this could easily pass for a good budget theatrical release), good acting, emotional scenes touching on familial themes, wonderful pacing, and a great cliffhanger. I REALLY want a third season. Please, give it a chance if you haven't already.
Halfway through
Just like S1 the visuals and soundtrack are on point
It feels like they turned the melodrama dial up to 11 though, found myself laughing at some moments that were meant to be emotional
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11 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
I don't think spending 300mil per picture in the future will be a smart idea until they right the ship. Mandalorian is a television thing and I don't think has much barring on the theatrical films unless they use those same people to make the films. FB3 is a guarantee flop. WB better lower the budget a lot.
Yeah, better to make the next mainline Star Wars below $200M and don't commit to a full trilogy.
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6 minutes ago, The Horror of Lucas Films said:
At the beggining of the week, people here said that $600m was locked with a chance at surpassing TLJ.
Now, we're talking about an O/U $480m scenario.
This franchise never stop giving us the goods.
This run is a wild ride
Pretty fun to follow, I'll give it that
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Is a billion still in play for TROS?
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4 hours ago, Valonqar said:
If Disney ruins FS and Fox so fuckin what? There are plenty of studios churning out prestige movies, Oscar baits, etc. I don't understand crying over Disney domination when it isn't like only they make movies. I see plenty of movies that don't have their logo or follow similar formula and still make money.
Fox Searchlight is the biggest producer of "Oscar bait." Its closure would be a huge blow to the sub-genre. The runner-up is, what, Annapurna? Lol
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5 hours ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
So let me get this straight:
- Fox is downsized with half of the product going to Disney+/Hulu with a franchise focus in mind
- Animation studios which some argued Universal would kill like Locksmith is only getting one film and Blue Sky potentially only doing sequels
- Lumberjanes adaptation cancellation hurts
- Deadpool potentially in limbo
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- a satire from the studio favorite like Waititi already has doubts, which Searchlight being the only clear survivor may be unsure.
dISneY bUYiNg FoX IS oNLy GoOd (actually though Comcast would’ve been slightly worse but it’s still bad)
It's not great, but the other two options were Comcast (would have been worse than the Disney acquisition, probably) and Fox completely imploding in a couple years as they fail to adapt to the age of blockbuster franchises.
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On 8/12/2019 at 7:57 AM, Valonqar said:
Nothing is purely down to one person. I'm just sayin that this is the first post-MCU role for RDJ so there will be interest. Unless the movie looks like total trash that even star power cannot salvage. We'll see. Doolittle is a brand again so it won't be the best indicator either way. Some brands are just weak (Mary Poppins) so no matter who you cast people simply have no interest.
Does RDJ have that much star power these days? He was a big star before Iron Man and for a couple years after, but he's been exclusively Iron Man for a while now.
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1 hour ago, filmlover said:
Nothing, in all likelihood, since everything set for the next two months is pretty much locked in. Universal already has a movie on that date (DreamWorks Animation's Abominable) anyway.
DreamWorks is putting out another movie this year? Surprised I haven't heard about it. Is it being undermarketed?
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1 hour ago, cookie said:
Well that's just idiotic and will make the film a hot item should it leak.
This movie wasn't even on my radar. Now I want to see it.
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Just kill MGM already
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2 hours ago, Minnale101 said:
I actually haven’t seen any ads or promotion for this lol
it Releases on Friday
I've been getting YouTube ads for it all the time.
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2 hours ago, Avatree said:
I'm not sure which orifice you're pulling your figures from, but the average legs domestic is 2.3-2.4x for a F&F movie. That would put it at 141M. I can't be arsed to look up what it does legs-wise OS so lets just use that 2.3 as a base line, which puts OS at 282M, combined together for 423M.
Remaining markets with figures dropped equally from F8 to Hobbs as in America (-35%):
China - $255M
France - $20M
Belgium - $4M
Italy - $11M
So altogether this pessimistic prediction, ignoring the fact the movie has 0 competition for an entire month, would put Hobbs & Shaw at $713M. So how is $750M unlikely?
And since when did anything under $750M mean a bomb?
Not a bomb by any means, but certainly an underperformance for the franchise. Maybe it would have done better if they called it Furious 9 instead?
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14 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:
I still wouldn’t look into it too much. The alternate channels for the Frozen 2 teaser had a massive amount of views and likes.
Frozen 2 teaser:
Main YT: 41M views/852K likes
Alt YT: 40.6M/658K likes
Alt YT: 21.5M/157K likes
Twitter: 19.1M
Facebook: 18.5M
Alt YT: 10.3M/37K likes
Instagram: 6.4M
157.4M views/1.7M likes
We know that it had 116M views in the first 24 hours, and obviously not all of those are from what I listed. That means it had a massive amount of views after the 24 hour period.
Frozen 2 trailer:
Main YT: 41M views/807K likes
Alt YT: 20.1M views/182K likes
Facebook: 9.2M views
Twitter: 6.7M views
Instagram: 3M viewsAlt YT: 2.8M views/24K likes
Alt YT: 1.4M views/19K likes
84.1M views/1.03M likes
We already knew that the Frozen 2 trailer didn’t make as much of a splash. But it also looks like it had a big drop.
Doesn’t mean interest has died down of course. But there was a huge curiosity factor with the first teaser like TLK.
I still haven't watched the Frozen 2 trailer lol (the teaser already sold me)
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Weekend Thread: Thursday Night Preview - The Grudge $1.8M w/ an F Cinemascore LMAO
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TLK 2019 is animated despite Disney pretending it is "live-action"
But its being considered live-action means that quality wins so whatever