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1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:
According to Mendelsohn (he's given correct estimates before), it's at 120 mil WW right now. Should cross 150 mil by the weekend. I doubt it's missing 200 mil. Still probably a money loser but won't lose tens of millions like people here expect.
Mendelson estimates by keeping the same DOM/OS ratio and applying to the current DOM, which is not accurate at all. OS was already falling more during weekdays than DOM. Moreover, Feb. 14 was not Valentine's Day in some countries.
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Wouldn't be surprised if they made a PG-13 cut to release somehow. Changing films later seems to be en vogue.
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2 hours ago, fabiopazzo2 said:
After two days of play, Russia is leading all markets at $1.6M
The fact that Russia is leading all markets even though it's the lowest opening for a DCEU movie there (as far as I know) is really telling
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Just realized BOP total box office will probably end up far behind Joker's opening weekend.
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For what is worth, the leaks for WW84 were ALL confirmed by the trailer, in minute detail.
Anyway...
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If WW84 somehow goes below WW, Walter Hamada will get the boot, probably. He inherited Aquaman and Joker from previous management, and he was against making Joker because it didn't follow their "winning formula", according to Todd Phillips.
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40 minutes ago, FunkMiller said:
The film would have greatly benefited from a strong female villain, with competent, good supporting male characters.
In other words... exactly what WW84 is doing, and that’s likely to be a smash hit because of it.
Maxwell Lord is the main villain, Cheetah is secondary, like the last time around. But Barbara will be more fleshed out before turning into a villain, unlike Dr. Psycho.
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38 minutes ago, Nova said:
The problem with BOP wasn’t its rating. Deadpool (and it’s sequel), Joker and Logan all showed that an R-rating isn’t going to hinder a comic book movie’s box office the way we thought it would. And in fact can actually help the movie’s box office. We can all agree that those movies were good because they were able to expand past that PG-13 rating. I imagine BOP is in the same boat where a PG-13 rating would probably hinder its quality.
BOP was a poorly marketed movie with bad trailers and a character who we thought was more popular than she actually is.
It is a problem when your target audience is teenage females. At least teenage males are more likely to be interested in R rated movies and ask their parents to take them. The 58% male audience is evidence of that actually.
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1917 didn't get Editing because of the one shot thing. Yes, it was edited to seem that way, but the category is not only for the technical aspect of it but how the montage of the film changes how it's perceived.
The one that gets hurt by not getting the Editing nom is Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
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Biggest controversy will be if only white actors are nominated (very likely for leading), followed by Todd Phillips possibly getting a best director nomination over Greta Gerwig.
Biggest surprise would be Endgame getting best picture nomination since it didn't even get the AFI or PGA.
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Just now, cax16 said:
BOP trailer has been out for like 2 months and has 19m views. WW has been out for less then 48 hours and has 12m views. Some of you guys need to relax. On twitter WW84 already has 2m more views and double the likes of BOP already. I’m not saying numbers are fantastic or anything but you guys are freaking out over nothing.
BoP had 18m after just a couple of weeks or less. I've been monitoring the trend and WW is going for something like that its first full week. It will probably pass BoP and cross 20 million but not much more than that for a long time.
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1 hour ago, Ms Lady Hawk said:
I think to date, the first Comic Con WW trailer has 30 million views. This one will likely surpass it. I don’t think WW metrics are entirely similar to other CM.
Won't make 30 million views, at least not without a bump after the movie coming out.
Right now I wonder if it will even pass BoP's 19 million.
Not saying it will correlate at all with box office but it is surprising to me that it's getting less views than the first movie's trailers had (and 30 million in 2017 was much better than 30 million in 2019). I don't think anyone can deny it's strange.
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On 11/19/2019 at 1:20 PM, Napoleon said:
If it really makes over $120 million worldwide that's actually good for a $48 million budget. Will definitely be profitable.
It's already been reported that they spent 50 million on advertising. So no.
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3 hours ago, RJ 95 said:
Portugal, Greece, Finland, Lithuania, Egypt, Croatia already did that and Poland ( still waiting confirmation if it did that last weekend or need another week).
Spain and Switzerland have a chance to join too.
2 hours ago, Sunny Max said:Serbia & Montenegro , Croatia & i think Latvia as well ... need to check
Ireland might join this list .. but we should wait for another weekend
Thanks. It also passed it in number of admissions in Italy, right?
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Is there a list of all the countries where it's known that Joker passed Endgame?
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Terminator: Dark Fate is out of Deadline's Top 10 chart
BOX OFFICE FOR NOV. 15-17
THUMB RANK FILM DIS. SCREENS (CHG) FRIDAY(VS. PREV FRI) 3-DAY TOTAL WK 1 Ford V Ferrari Fox/Dis 3,528 $11M $30M $30M 1 2 Midway LG 3,242 $2.5M (-61%) $8.8M (-51%) $35.1M 2 3 Charlie’s Angels Sony 3,452 $3.1M $8.2M $8.2M 1 4 Playing With Fire Par 3,185 (+60) $1.9M (-47%) $7.5M (-41%) $24.4M 2 5 Last Christmas Uni 3,454 (+6) $2M (-51%) $6.6M (-42%) $22.4M 2 6 Doctor Sleep WB 3,855 $1.685M (-67%) $5.7M (-59%) $24.6M 2 7 Joker WB/VR/Bron 2,337 (-469) $1.475M
(-42%)$5.2M (-44%) $322.1M 7 8 The Good Liar NL/WB/Bron 2,439 $1.63M $5M $5M 1 9 Maleficent 2 Dis 2,549 (-652) $1.17M (-41%) $4.8M (-42%) $105.6M 5 10 Harriet Focus 2,011 (-175) $1.25M (-37%) $4.5M (-38%) $31.7M 3 -
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According to Deadline/PostTrak, Females over 25 gave Charlie's Angels a 63% grade while Males over 25 gave it 70%.
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Could even miss 100M WW, right?
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7 hours ago, Essem said:
Joker performance is absolutely insane. It is however a little worrisome that you need to slap "Joker" on a movie like this for people to even give a chance. Change the title and change a couple of names, and you would have a movie that would do like what... 150million WW?
It just goes to show how powerful the comic book brand is nowadays.To be fair I think that would be the case even if it was the 90s, right after Batman 1989. Or right after The Dark Knight, because Joker was already insanely popular before the "comic book movies era".
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I don't think the trades are gonna wait. They'll probably announce it even without any official estimated numbers.
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She created the controversy she wanted to either bring attention or use as scapegoat, that's it. Nobody cared before.
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Nobody really cared about the movie in "that sense" until Elizabeth Banks started telling people this week that they need to see the movie because women have almost forcefully been seeing movies with male leads so men have to return the favor, and all sorts of nonsense as if her Charlie's Angels is pioneering something, and that Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel "don't count because they're part of the superhero genre which is a male environment", in an act of desperation to bring attention to the movie.
Whether you agree or not, it's clear they're bracing for a bomb.
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993.8M WW through tuesday according to Box Office Mojo
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt7286456/
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DOMESTIC (31.8%)
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More than anything, Mad Max had the benefit of the entire franchise being made by George Miller, so there were no "cashgrab sequels that ruined the franchise", and him bringing his A game to Fury Road, with 2 big stars, and the fact that it was one of the best films of that year.
And even then it didn't do crazy well.
When it comes to Charlie's Angels, not even the 2000s iteration had the popularity of the first few seasons of the TV show, so it was already a "tired" revival, just riding the 1990s-2000s gimmick of making movies out of 70s TV.
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JAPAN BOX OFFICE | Demon Slayer breaks all time record for OW
in International Box Office
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I don't trust him ever since he claimed Shazam was doing 2x in Japan than it actually was.