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  1. Not the same thing at all. In general, we don't often blame leadership for film failures (box office failures more like it, since both films did reasonably well review wise). It is a part of the business that everyone accepts, the important thing is that the studio can profit overall Zaslav went OUT OF HIS WAY to attach himself to Flash, which also belongs to a much more important property (DC vs. Indy, the latter is likely a one off and not core to Disney's future film slate). If Iger had 1) stuck with a lead star with documented cases of assault and weirdness and 2) started pushing Indy hard as the best film of the franchise (or the best film ever, which is closer to the hyperbole Zaslav used to promote Flash) I think the narrative regarding Iger and Indy 5 would be very different. Finally, Iger is one of the best CEOs of any major studio. Fight me all you want, he transformed Disney into an even bigger cash cow. Zaslav should not get the same leeway that Iger does, he'll have to earn that
  2. I am wondering this too. How does screen allocation work in China? Transformers is now kicking Flash's butt, will it really lose its screens to Flash this weekend due to previous agreements? Would love to see Transformers get closer to that 100m mark thanks to this festival
  3. Sums up my experience exactly. Never had anything against the movie, just never really thought about it again... Still, between the general narrative against the first movie (not saying I agree with it but its there), a dip in MCU interest from peak, and the lack of avengers movies to prop it up, I think the Marvels has an uphill battle. With Black Panther 2 at 860m, I'm preparing myself to be excited about a 600m+ gross, I just don't know how much GA interest is there (I honestly think AM2 with its whole VFX underwater thing has more GA appeal despite DC's mid to bad reputation)
  4. As someone who had been invested in DIS for years (thankfully not recently), I suggest that standard calculations don't work too well. Not only does DIS have a scary ability to recoup through home ent and all sorts of ancillaries, streaming has made the whole calculation wonky as can be. I don't think anyone knows for sure, but if it has any value on D+ (I know some people waiting for streaming and others that will see it a hundred times on D+, purely anecdotal, I'm just in the "families" demo), Disney will scrape to break even on TLM (and slightly beyond as the years wane). I'd worry more about movies like Fast X that are heavy on partnered international markets and have weak ancillaries (at least relative to DIS family fare)
  5. You like it most, that's great. Is it the best though? Based on all the info we have, and the closest we can get to moving past individual opinions, The Flash is clearly the "least best" of the three I'm also just one person with an opinion, but I've found the Flash worse and more frustrating as time goes on haha. I wasn't the biggest Snyder fan, but he had a vision, a plan, and more visual flair than most hollywood directors put together. He did 300 on a budget of 65m and I am wondering why WB could not have given him the freedom to build his universe at reduced budgets (maybe 100m per film). Honestly, a Snyder universe running alongside the DCU would have been less confusing than whatever happened to the DCEU
  6. I haven't seen anyone claiming it is doing great. That said, it will cross 300m domestic, and that's looking more and more impressive as big IP tentpoles around it continue to flop. DIS's ability to recoup costs on the back end through ancilliaries is unmatched (that's not necessarily a good thing lol), TLM will be fine, I don't think anyone is losing sleep over it.. Gosh I can't believe I'm defending TLM I didn't even like the movie, I just respect BO numbers and "just breaking even" is somehow becoming impressive for tentpole in this dreary world of terrible B.O. numbers
  7. First of all, there is no way to make that counterfactual... Maybe Captain Marvel was fine because the MCU was almost untouchable at that point, but does that really mean review bombing has no effect? Narratives surrounding movies matter and we've seen the water cooler effect play out a million different ways at the box office. Regardless, there is a difference between the direct effect of review bombing and what it represents. What it represents for TLM is added baggage and many people who were turned off by its very existence = lower BO potential (in my view, again its impossible to prove a counterfactual) I am interested in the extent to which people avoided The Flash on principle. I expected to see far more people on social media discussing his transgressions and boycotting the film. I think WB played it well with not pushing Ezra on to a big press tour (despite what Anthony at deadline might think)
  8. I really don't understand this TLM hate. The movie had FAR more baggage than the Flash and it will likely gross more domestically than Flash will WW Regarding baggage, TLM had possibly the largest review bombing compaign of any film, if people hated The Flash that much for any reason, we would have seen at least one tenth of TLM experienced. Plus, you have what feels like a third of the country boycotting the film for ideological reasons. In the wake of movies like Shazam 2 and The Flash, getting past 500m WW is nothing to scoff at in this new movie world order
  9. I can't help but laugh every time Anthony repeats this line. The movie is bombing hard and what is the primary reason? Ezra Miller didn't do the press tour haha
  10. No Way Home, Shang Chi, and Wakanda Forever were all phase 4 films. If those are rashes or headaches, what does that make movies like Flash or Black Adam? Sure Quantumania and Eternals were what they were, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater
  11. I don't think GA have strong feelings about franchises like that. My assumption is that GA do not "hate" the DCEU, they just couldn't really care less. Its not a brand that will get butts in seats by itself
  12. I don't think the poster said anything about GOTG3 being the biggest, just that nothing will pass it (which suggests nothing will pass Fast X either). Also, I think they are relatively close (especially OS-china, though Fast X has a bit more in the "tank"). I tend to agree. I thought Flash would be the OS leader this summer, but outside of MI7 I don't see anything passing Guardians OS (post Indy reviews). Still holding out for Flash's legs, saw the film at a preview and while I'm more of a MCU guy, I was personally impressed (though I've learned my tastes aren't predictive of GA views)
  13. The fact that Sony doesnt have a Disney+/HBO max probably explains why they seem pro-theatrical...... I have no doubt that if Sony had a shiny new streaming service they would have done the exact same thing as WB/Disney Seeing Matrix struggle breaks my heart a little. I didn't think the movie was bad at all, if I had to bet I'd say people will appreciate it much more in a few years than they do right now. At least its OS numbers seem respectable at the moment, Spidey + HBO max was always going to make DOM an uphill battle
  14. Spidey has little bearing on the success of Morbius. Sony distributes, yes, but this was an MCU production, the terms of their deal make that very clear. Morbius is just plain Sony, and based on the quality of the Venom films (as much as I do enjoy them), I'm not holding my breath. I'm open to changing my mind, but it will take some good live-action Sonyverse films for me to forgive them of their past offences lol In any case, I am really excited to see what this film does in the December slot. Yes its Covid, but its also an amazing release date. Always wanted to see what Endgame could have done in the Christmas-New Years corridor (and with a barren January to look forward to)
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