Alexdube

I don't disagree with any of this. What I didn't like was the comment that going 10% over R1 is somehow "unrealistic". People are already floating 20 as a possibility That is all. No hard feelings, I'm over it, let's move on.

I don't like the double standard that going lower means you're being "realistic" while going over means you're being a "fanboy" or whatever. I'll happily let it go but calling me "pain in the ass" is uncalled for, I wasn't trolling I was just genuinely asking what he meant by that number

"how would you feel about 19 for Tuesday" Isn't that what you said? What was that about

10% over R1 doesn't really seem so "unrealistic" when you had Tuesday at 19

I think today could be "surprising". I don't think discount Tuesday helped Avatar that much this week, in fact it might have hurt in some places because many showings would be packed anyway without the discount. It's a holiday week, it's not going to behave like last week. And this movie plays like a family movie I don't think 21+ is out of the question

One thing you need to consider is demographics. Even if TGM has better WOM, the range of people its targeting is certainly more narrow than A2. So A2 has more room to grow, it's just a question of how much the movie will tap into that potential

says a lot about the state of Marvel

I've been thinking: is Cameron now the first over 60 billie maker? Almost, Chris Buck did it with Frozen 2 (although he's co-director with the younger Jennifer Lee) Raimi came close this year with DS2. Am I missing anyone? Glanced at the over 1 billion movie list and I believe Cameron is the oldest director to do it. He'll probably become the first over 70 to do it with A3

3rd time is the charm 😉

Did you forget about the historic storm that hit on the second weekend? Also A2 had a proportionally stronger opening than the first one due to the fact it's now a known property, but does that mean its grosses will fall off a cliff like a superhero movie or SW? It could very well "stabilize" in January, we just don't know that yet.

Did I ever say that or imply that? That's true the amount of money a movie makes isn't proof of its quality, in fact nothing is because the quality of a movie is always subjective. But that doesn't mean the quality of a movie doesn't play into its success, those are 2 different things. Was Avatar successful because it is actually a good movie or because of other factors? That's something that can be debated The point is there are so many factors that play into what makes a movie rewatchable or successful. Obviously you have no interest in James Cameron's work, so have you no clue what makes his movies rewatchable. So your analysis is very narrow on rewatchability, limited to only a few things like running time and pricing

Ah there it is... that's what I expected the reply to be initially. Sure that is one data point you can look at, but obviously it doesn't always tell the whole story. The first Avatar had far far better legs than almost all movies that scored the same or better with these metrics. Bottom line is we don't know yet. I just have a problem with throwing out there so nonchalantly that Avatar 2 will have less rewatchability than TGM or NWH. We just don't know yet and you cannot simply ignore Cameron's track record on that element

Titanic was over 3 hours long and it's certainly one of the most rewatched movie in a theater. Same as the first Avatar with little less than 3 hours. Length is only one of many factors that would influence on the decision to rewatch a movie. Your assertion that Avatar 2 would be less rewatchable than NWH or TGM is based on nothing but air

Curious have you seen the first Avatar or the second one?

well you can thank the storm 😉

If we're doing anecdotal stuff, one showing I'm looking at is so packed it's listed as -18 seats available Anyway it's selling very well where I'm looking at, so I don't know btw is there a non-convoluted way to post images here?

Never as long as Cameron is a the helm

Highest-grossing directors worldwide[1] Rank Name Worldwide box office Films Average Highest-grossing film 1 Steven Spielberg $10,649,269,084 36 $295,813,030 $1,045,573,035 (Jurassic Park) 2 James Cameron $7,006,699,748 14 $500,478,553 $2,899,384,102 (Avatar) 3 Russo brothers $6,843,246,470 9 $760,360,719 $2,797,732,053 (Avengers: Endgame) 4 Peter Jackson $6,536,703,723 15 $435,780,248 $1,120,210,896 (The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King) 5 Michael Bay $6,495,374,196 16 $405,960,887 $1,123,794,079 (Transformers: Dark of the Moon) 6 David Yates $6,350,769,729 10 $635,076,973 $1,316,278,261 (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2) 7 Christopher Nolan $4,955,387,330 13 $381,183,641 $1,082,228,107 (The Dark Knight Rises) 8 J. J. Abrams $4,648,965,502 6 $774,827,584 $2,064,615,817 (Star Wars: The Force Awakens) 9 Tim Burton $4,413,226,120 19 $232,275,059 $1,025,491,110 (Alice in Wonderland) 10 Ridley Scott $4,366,290,985 31 $140,848,096 $653,609,107 (The Martian)

I figured that's what it was but yeah, can't change it now. I did try to change my username for myself, but I can't even buy an account, paypal won't accept my credit card for some weird reason. Anyway, not going to do any kind of betting right now, people can just bring it back to my face if I'm wrong. Hope it lasts more than a day at least 😆

not familiar with the concept