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Film of the year right here.
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6 hours ago, DAJK said:
I’m sure it will be great, but the marketing hasn’t done much in the way of enticing audiences with a story/plot. It’s really relied 100% on “look at all these cool stunts!” which, maybe that’s enough for huge numbers, but I really think the marketing needs to push some kind of narrative-based reason for audiences to see this.
Tbf none of these films (except maybe 1) has really sold itself on story. They're always perfunctory at best, vehicles to get to the next setpiece.
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Just now, Ken said:
I remember reading the concern back in October 2021 over whether Legendary could justify greenlighting Dune's second part. Was the international gross and high critical acclaim enough to pass?
That + accounting for the extenuating circumstances and positive factors (strong WOM, doing well considering its release). Gives the studio a good sign that the next one without those negative circumstances will make more money for them.
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35 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:
Yeah this franchise doesn't get scrutinized like other big ones. Critics been on "it's just schlock!" train for too long which is now hurting these movies.I'd argue they're generally well made action films from a technical standpoint and deliver what people want. Not really striving more than popcorn thrills so you're not gonna scrutinize it as much as a blockbuster like The Batman or whatever.
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Ive been saying for a while, this things gonna lose money barring a billion dollar overperformance (which isn't happening). BUT if it does around F9 or better AND audience reception is stronger then yeah Fast X2 is in the can 100%. They're not gonna cancel the entire series off this losing money bc of its budget. They can blame the inflated budget on the director switch and production issues. Lower budget on 11 + finale boost = $$$.
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41 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
I don’t know why Disney is even still bothering with Tron. I know it has a cult following, and that many people here wanted another one, but I just don’t think it’s ever going to be a thing.
It won't be a thing if they make a half assed entry like this with medium talent!
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1 hour ago, Eric Toretto said:
Quorum Updates
The Boogeyman T-18: 37.54% Awareness
Asteroid City T-39: 17.25%
The Meg 2: The Trench T-81: 30.85%
Dune: Part Two T-172: 31.38%
Napoleon T-191: 17.83%
Fast X T-4: 58.33% Awareness
Final Awareness: 53% chance of 40M, 40% chance of 50M, 27% chance of 60M, 20% chance of 90M, 13% chance of 100M
Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 40M, 50% chance of 50M
The Little Mermaid T-11: 59.87% Awareness
Final Awareness: 53% chance of 40M, 40% chance of 50M, 27% chance of 60M, 20% chance of 90M, 13% chance of 100M
Animation/Family Awareness: 100% chance of 20M
No Hard Feelings T-39: 19.97% Awareness
T-30 Awareness: 14% chance of 10M
Original - Low Awareness: 17% chance of 10M
Joy Ride T-53: 20.87% Awareness
T-60 Awareness: 56% chance of 10M
Original - Low Awareness: 36% chance of 10M
Oppenheimer T-67: 20.22% Awareness
T-60 Awareness: 93% chance of 10M, 71% chance of 20M, 50% chance of 30M
Original - High Awareness: 71% chance of 10M, 29% chance of 30M
So to clarify some stuff, if you're wondering why Interest isn't here, yesterday Quorum updated their website and their metrics. More specifically, instead of the 0-10 point scale for Interest, it's now a percentage like everything else. So that means all the comps I've done are now null and void and I will have to start that area all over again. Which yes, is very frustrating and annoying. So while I will try to look over and update the Interest metrics accordingly in the future, since a lot of older movies have been updated, we can only do Awareness for the time being. It is what it is, but I think I can manage it.
Oppenheimer that low in awareness is a bit concerning.
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Clip looks bad but I'm not raising the alarm bells, it's 1 minute out of context in a 2.5 hour movie. I'm amazed HOW much discourse it caused on social media.
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31 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
People still hated Short Round back when Indy 4 was made though.
True, I always forget people dislike Temple of Doom (blasphemy if you ask me)
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1 minute ago, WorkingonaName said:
Why did they just sub in mutt for some British chick.
could have been shortround
I'm sure after EEAAO exploded, they regret that deeply. (Short Round should've been in Mutt's role in 4 too).
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Starting to notice some of the critics who liked F9, don't like X. And then those who didn't like F9 are liking X. As someone who likes 9...not a promising sign for me ha.
Overall though, reactions are more positive than expected? I don't expect this to review great but it seems WOM might be decent as it's a fun time.
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I think Guardians will resonate more than most MCU down the line but as a trilogy? To understand Vol 3 you need to see Infinity War and Endgame which require you to see a ton of other movies. I struggle to see audiences in 20-30 years putting in the work to catch up.
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Part of me wonders if the studio overestimated how much audiences care about Transformers as a brand/IP itself, or did people just enjoy the Bay films themselves at the time. No attachment beyond that.
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Han coming back was fine because he's the GOAT character (they had to keep punting Tokyo Drift further and further down the timeline to keep his death from happening). Gal Gadot coming back is just dumb, did anyone even care for her in these?
I don't mind Cipher joining la familia, Momoa will be in the next one too lol.
These movies have become Hamburger Shonen.
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6 minutes ago, grim22 said:
I believe it can be pinpointed as this moment
Not so much for the catch but for the fact that Diesel goes right into the windshield of a car and should logically be either dead or in traction, but instead the immediate next shot is this
"How did you know there'd be a car there to break our fall?"
"I didn't"
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Of the names, she's my #1 pick for Lois. Perfect casting.
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Jurassic still the only Dino franchise, just needs a competent team behind it again to do a fun horror action and it'll be roaring back like it never left.
Fast is def past its peak, even as someone who still enjoys them, 7 should've been the conclusion. 8 saw a decent run because of goodwill off 5-7 and curiosity of how they'd handle it without Paul Walker but after that they're gonna perform like like they did around F5's time. And I don't see this franchise working as an eventual reboot? It's all in the cast of characters plus where do you start, street racing or super spies off the bat? It's a one and done, can't really recapture it.
TLDR; everyone involved got delusional thinking 7/8 was the new norm and jacked the budgets up to insane degrees.
SpoilerAlso I read the ending, it's fine? Pretty average cliffhanger, I don't really get the doomposting around it but I'd have to see it play out to fully judge obviously.
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1 hour ago, THUNDER BIRD said:
Y-yes...yes it is. Double checked in case Jurassic Park was actually first but its second, 6.6B vs 6.1B.
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17 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
Never seen the first F&F before but just saw a clip and found a moment that mightve served as the visual inspiration for the Wachowskis Speed Racer.
Is it when the fluid (I forget the name for it, but makes them go FAST) goes through all the pipes/engine inside the car?
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20 hours ago, SpiderByte said:
But a part 1 not getting a part 2 has happened. Remember Divergent?
For sure, but this is Universal's biggest franchise. Divergent never even hit $300m WW.
I think Part 2 happens unless this REALLY tanks, like 500m range. Even if it does on par with F9, it'll lose money but they can blame it on the director change.
I don't think Fast X Part 3 is happening unless this somehow hits a billion.
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1 hour ago, interiorgatordecorator said:
if it flops its "woke" if it succeeds its "anti-woke"
cant lose
Or if it succeeds, just claim the studio bought tickets and faked the numbers
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I love Amy Adams but we haven't had a great Lois since Margot Kidder. These choices seem good so far!
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46 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
So apparently in the new animated series there is a non-binary character, so expect people to annoyingly try to blame any underperformance of this movie on that for some reason
TRANSformers
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4 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
It seems like Mamoa really wrecks shit in this movie. Can't wait for him to somehow become part of the Family by the next one.
Half the budget for Fast X Part 3 is gonna be buying extra BBQ cookers and food to accommodate allll the new people at the final cookout.
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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny | June 30 2023 | Very mixed reviews out of Cannes
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Yeah it seems the major negatives are that it's a retread and plays it too safe...which is exactly what audiences want so I don't doubt it'll be a hit. BUT it's not a good sign this early out for people to see that yellow metascore, definitely gonna diminish some hype.